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Fix as much as you can bear to, then call on us for help. 
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 25th 2024 at 10:26:27 AM
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Cut out the natter, then comment it out as it's a zero-context example.
Fridge.Pinocchio has a lot of natter in the Fridge Horror section.
low-poly Shinri
Welcome Back, Traitor has this boi
- Tales Series: Raven in Tales of Vesperia, arguably Kratos in Tales of Symphonia. Also Anise in Tales of the Abyss. In Tales of Destiny remake, they try to do it on Leon. but...
- Leon's case is brought up in Tales of Destiny 2. Keep in mind this was before Leon's death was a Heroic Sacrifice. The current party is shocked when they find out Judas is Leon Magnus but in the end, decide his later actions meant more than his past. Perhaps Justified as none of his crimes were against the current party specifically, and through a Lotus-Eater Machine they saw he didn't at all enjoy what he'd done.
- Potentially Zelos in Tales of Symphonia, who admits that while he was a Fake Defector when he turned over Colette to Pronyma, he was really leaking information to the villains.
- Specifically, in Tales of Vesperia Judith and Raven both turn against the party, the former by crippling their only mode of transportation and abandoning them, the latter by kidnapping Estelle and handing her over to the Big Bad then later actively trying to kill them (albeit under orders). Both are welcomed back into the party with no fuss whatsoever.
- Well, really, Judith more or less had a noble cause for crippling their ship. Her crime is trying to act on her noble goal alone, rather than with her friends. As for Raven, he was actually not really trying to kill them as much as he planned on dying there, whether it was by the party's hand or the location crumbling down on him. This was made evident when while clashing blades with Yuri, Raven suddenly halted his attacks, allowing a rather surprised Yuri to slash him through the chest. He never really planned on killing them as much as he was more than ready for his own life to end; he even allows them all to escape immediately after the fight.
- Also, in the latter's case, the party takes turns slugging them in the face. Yuri also makes it clear that said character's life (weather they live or die) belongs to "Brave Vesperia" from that point on.
- Tales of Xillia subverts the trend with Alvin. He betrays the party repeatedly and is let back in every time... but Easily Forgiven is not in effect here. Milla at one point of the game pretty much admits that the only reason Alvin is kept around is because he is a loose cannon that would follow them either way and it's safer for all of them when he is right where they can see him. At the same time though, it's worth noting that this trope plays a huge part in Alvin's motivation to really redeem himself.
Cut all the natter.
Take it to the Wall of Text cleanup - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15921783960A72851900&page=26
Edited by DongwaChan on Oct 6th 2022 at 8:28:48 AM
low-poly Shinri
any possible rewrite? Cause some of them do occur in the games (especially with Raven.)
the Retromancer
Do these additions at YMMV.The Super Mario Bros Movie sound like personal comments? They are also improperly indented.
They sound like personal comments. Cut 'em.
Found in Creator's Pest:
Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 8th 2022 at 2:05:13 PM
it implies that Logan himself actually said that, and if that's the case it's fine because it's quoting him directly. if he didn't say that, it should be cut.
I'm fine with leaving it if he actually said that.
the Retromancer
This at Trivia.Gacha World looks like a stack of comments, and not sure if the first entry is valid to begin with.
- Dummied Out: Data miners over time have uncovered five units at the end of the unit array and they contain almost no unique data as they borrow existing data from other legitimate units. What sets them apart is that if hacked into a team and forced to appear via summoning, they softlock the game as they lack a valid pointer to any summoning animation thus the game waits for a return instruction that won't ever happen due to no animation being called to begin with.
- The compiled spreadsheets of datamined info that the official Lunime Discord server endorses is over here.
- As a side mention: Since the leaderboards are removed in an update to address a certain DDOSing issue and also hacked scores running rampant in the rankings, a distinguished Discord user named &ો established their own presence in the text channel dedicated to Gacha World in the official Lunime Discord server by constantly breaking world records and also by being the uncontested global #1 player in the game.
- As of 2021/12/10, && has 8,010 boss raid levels in total and cleared 15,000 unique corruption stages in total.
- The compiled spreadsheets of datamined info that the official Lunime Discord server endorses is over here
Showtime!
Cut all the subbullets, none of them are relevant to the Dummied Out example
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
She / Her
Seconded. Plus, the indentation was incorrect (which imo is most notable with the last bullet).
The Other page for Have a Gay Old Time has a bad case of natter and needs a full cleaning. Here's two examples:
- The term "G-string" originally meant "a loincloth worn by American Indian men". Referring to the groin, then an inappropriate term for polite company. G-string was intentionally juxtaposed with the musical term (the lowest string on a violin, which is tuned to the G note).
- And this.
- Artist's impression.◊
- Grignr wears one.
- And this.
- Various tv shows, movies, and animes up to around the mid 90's would sometimes refer to Condominiums as condoms for short... after a few decades of that we realized what we were saying and started using 'condo' instead.
- If this usage had continued, it would have given the Doom 2 level "Monster Condo" a whole new meaning.
Found in Fille Fatale:
- Larisa from Sandra and Woo likes to dress sexy to appeal to boys, has already smooched around a dozen of them and doesn't mind being called a slut for this sort of behavior... She's also digging more conservative family values, though.
- Although she may look forward to find a guy she'll consider marrying, until then, she probably wants to enjoy her single life as long as possible.
- Which, unfortunately, may not be all that long. Yeah, that sorta qualifies as a Wham Episode.
- Which, unfortunately, may not be all that long
- She has toned this down somewhat ever since she has entered into a relationship with Nice Guy Landon. While still quite flirty, most of her behavior is now channeled into PDA with her boyfriend.
- Although she may look forward to find a guy she'll consider marrying, until then, she probably wants to enjoy her single life as long as possible.
She / Her
I feel the last paragraph should be combined with the main one. However, I feel everything on conservative family values and marriage should be removed because it feels a bit irrelevant to me.
How's this?
- Larisa from Sandra and Woo likes to dress sexy to appeal to boys, has already smooched around a dozen of them and doesn't mind being called a slut for this sort of behavior. After she starts dating Landon, she channels most of her teasing into PDA with her boyfriend.
Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 10th 2022 at 4:54:45 AM
She / Her
Maybe point out she's a kid as that's part of the trope (I should have noted that in my previous comment![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
), though it otherwise looks nice imo![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
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How about this?
- Larisa from Sandra and Woo likes to dress sexy to appeal to her male schoolmates, has already smooched around a dozen of them and doesn't mind being called a slut for this sort of behavior. After she starts dating Landon, she channels most of her teasing into PDA with her boyfriend.
She / Her
I feel that works.
The Other page for Have a Gay Old Time has a bad case of natter and needs a full cleaning. Here's two examples:
- The term "G-string" originally meant "a loincloth worn by American Indian men". Referring to the groin, then an inappropriate term for polite company. G-string was intentionally juxtaposed with the musical term (the lowest string on a violin, which is tuned to the G note).
- And this.
- Artist's impression.◊
- Grignr wears one.
- And this.
- Various tv shows, movies, and animes up to around the mid 90's would sometimes refer to Condominiums as condoms for short... after a few decades of that we realized what we were saying and started using 'condo' instead.
- If this usage had continued, it would have given the Doom 2 level "Monster Condo" a whole new meaning.
She / Her
Sorry for not responding the first time you mentioned this. Anyway, I agree with you that that natter needs to be cut.
Geek
I put in the note on the magnum dong because its supposed to be a shoutout to It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia - this was confirmed by Brittany Avery. I also felt it necessary to explain why the Dub Name Change because there were haters actually protesting this on Reddit. If you think its unnecessary, I guess you could remove it.
Edited by RAMChYLD on Oct 11th 2022 at 10:30:03 AM
Remove the link to the show, then un-note the info in the note.
Edited by DongwaChan on Oct 13th 2022 at 7:49:27 AM
Found this on The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (Shout section, the natter is in the note)
- One of the Trial Chest enemies in Cold Steel IV is called Magnum Dong.note
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A