Subpages cleanup: Complete Monster

Thank you very much for your assistance, my good man (Or lady, I don't discriminate. XD).

Echoing. My thanks for remedying the rule.

Expect another post from my end later today.

Ah, good. I have high expectations!

Alright can't wait for the surprise! I hope it is what I think it is

What all do you think it is?

So I just wanted to make a slight improvement in regards to the Nogitsune's writeup from Teen Wolf. It says: "When he's separated from Stiles, he takes control of the Oni soon after killing Allison Argent". In actuality, Nogitsune had taken control of the Oni, and because he has control over them, he made one of them kill Allison.

How do you want it to look?

Well maybe like this:

The Nogitsune possessing Stiles, the Big Bad of Season 3B, mentally and emotionally torments him, forces him to torture his friends, and go on constant murder sprees. When originally summoned decades ago, it was summoned by Kira's mother at an internment camp to avenge her American lover, but instead massacres the internment camp, prisoners and guards alike, before finally being subdued. In the present, he sets up multiple traps, including sabotaging an electric cable killing several people and rendering Isaac Lahey comatose, has an arrow shot into Coach Finstock's stomach and lets a bomb go off in the Sheriff's station, all while pretending to be Stiles in front of Scott (Stiles's best friend), before twisting a sword in Scott's gut. When he's separated from Stiles, he takes control of the Oni and has one of them kill Allison Argent. He later leads the Oni on a massacre at the local hospital and police station. In the final showdown, he plans on having Scott kill Stiles, citing it as the only way he can be defeated, simply because it sees it all as a game.

So....not that much different I guess.

edited 2nd Mar '17 4:31:51 PM by zcooper95

Scraggle I'll give you a hint RE R

Not Lansdale, unfortunately. This'll come from another comic.

Should probably get this out of the way.

• Whistling in the Dark: Bobby Brophy is a playground counselor who, underneath his charming facade, is actually a disturbed child molester and murderer. Having kidnapped, raped, and murdered the niece of a local police officer the previous summer, Bobby returns to the neighborhood and quickly returns to his old habits. Abducting a third grader, Bobby molests the girl before strangling her to death, leaving her naked body outside for the authorities to discover. Setting his sights on his latest victim, Sally O'Malley, Bobby makes numerous attempts to kidnap her, barely failing each time. When Sally and her friend, Mary Lane, search Bobby's cabin and find evidence to incriminate him, Bobby captures her and drags her off to the lagoon where he murdered his previous victims, threatening to kill Sally's younger sister, Troo, if she does not cooperate. Once they reach the lagoon, Bobby immediately attempts to molest Sally, taunting her during the act and boasting that he will send her to join her deceased father in death.

edited 2nd Mar '17 6:29:50 PM by Clown-Face

I've got two cut proposals, ironically from characters that I originally brought up.

First is Griffon from Red Dead Revolver.

I suggested cutting him twice before but neither suggestion went anywhere.

Griffon's entry reads.

• Complete Monster: Before he became the Governor, Griffon was the partner of gold miner Nate Harlow, the father of Red Harlow. After an encounter with General Diego, Griffon doesn't hesitate in selling out Nate and his family for Nate's half of the gold and his own life, getting Nate and his wife killed. As Governor, Griffon and Diego are running an illegal gold mine using slave labor and when an American soldier tries to report this to the Governor, Griffon not only admits that he's in on it, ut he has the soldier kept prisoner. He also tries to buy Annie Stooke's ranch and when intimidation doesn't work, he simply sends his men to burn her farm down and kill her. Later at the Battle Royal, Griffon recognises Red and attempts to have him killed. When confronted at the end, Griffon says he regrets not being there when the Harlow's where killed, so he can make sure Red joined him and attempts to take this "second chance" to gun him down.

Honestly he just sound generic. When I rewatched a lets play of the game a while back, nothing he does stands out as being heinous. Especially by the standards of the Red Dead series. Compare him to Allende and Forrester from Redemption and you'll see what I mean.

Second is Charon from the Dead Island series. Not due to a lack of heinousness however, but some information I have learned.

See, there was another game in the series, called Escape Dead Island; it isn't too famous or popular, which is why it probably slipped passed the radar, but it gives Charon some insight via audio logs.

The game tries to portray Charon as someone planning to use the zombie virus seeking vengance on an corrupt Umbrella-Wannabe-Pharmaceutical Company, for destroying his family. Now before anyone makes an argument that it was a "his family issue", but unlike Ronan and Zakhaev, he when he talks about his family it' doesn't come of as honor based revenge. When you listen to the tapes and the way he speaks of his mother and father, I get the impression he cares about them. The logs can be heard here.

Now given Charon being a Manipulative Bastard in his other appearances, it's questionable if he's sincere about the tragedies his family suffered or if it's more manipulation on his part. We could get our answer in Dead Island 2 if it's ever released (don't hold your breath, at this point I have more faith in The Order getting a sequel within the decade). Now Charon still wants to release the virus on the world as well as destroy those who destroyed his family, so Disproportionate Retribution yes, but for now a redeeming quality is a redeeming quality.

edited 2nd Mar '17 6:40:39 PM by Beast

No issues cutting either.

Scraggle: Ah shoots, still I can't wait to see who you are proposing

I second with that

Okay, here's my next before I do A Cure For Wellness tomorrow:

The work? The Big O. Permit me to swipe from Wikipedia: "The story takes place forty years after a mysterious occurrence causes the residents of Paradigm City to lose their memories. The series follows Roger Smith, Paradigm City's top Negotiator."

Now, Roger is assisted by his elderly butler and his....okay, let's call her love interest, R. Dorothy Waynewright, his robot girl buddy. When things get dicey, Roger utilizes The Big O, a giant mech from the city's past. The Big Bad of the series is Alex Rosewater, CEO of the city's most powerful corporation that runs Paradigm....Alex is a vicious classist with a messiah complex...but we're not here to discuss him. Let's discuss his number two psychopath, Alan Gabriel.

Who Is He? What's He Do?

Alan Gabriel, masterfully voiced by Crispin Freeman in the dub, is a clown-like figure in a pinstripe suit and widebrimmed hat, clearly based on The Joker himself. A cyborg, and the second in command to Rosewater as well as the head of the terrorist group called The Union.

Gabriel, however, is utterly obsessed with torturing and killing as many people as possible, and uses his position in Rosewater's corporation and the Union to do so, gleefully carrying out any and all assassinations he's given, notably blowing a crippled android's head off in one scene and mocking the robot's caretaker about it. To note here is that androids are fully capable of emotions and sentience, and Gabriel prefers to kill these ones because they hurt the most. Gabriel's loyalty, however, is a fickle thing at best...

In fact, Gabriel has been playing the Union and Rosewater both, getting them to team up so he can participate in more sadistic jobs, and regularly organizes destructive terrorist attacks on Paradigm City, notably nearly dropping a satellite onto the city and killing most of its thousands of innocents. Towards the series end, Gabriel throws his lot in with Rosewater and systematically hunts down and kills his former comrades....so, Gabriel then hunts down Dorothy, and proceeds to disable her limbs, preparing to torture her to death while transmitting it to Roger. Thankfully, Dorothy fights back and holds him off until Roger arrives.

Later, after forcing a prisoner skilled in technology to assist him under threat of sentencing him to public execution with his connections in Rosewater's corporation, Alan is giddy when Rosewater grants him his own mecha, here called a Megadeus....mainly to keep Alan from killing him off, as Alan had gotten bored of working for him and was planning on killing him, until Rosewater grants him said Megadeus. Alan proceeds to run rampant across Paradigm before confronting Roger in the Big O.

However...the Megadeus have a level of sentience to them to judge the worthiness of their pilot, and Alan's rejects him for being so evil. The Megadeus stops the rampage and...consumes a horrified, screaming Alan Gabriel, ending his reign of terror.

Mitigating Qualities?

None. Gabriel is just a sadistic lunatic. Cyborgs have full agency and all here, so there's absolutely no problem with that. Gabriel is simply obsessed with causing pain and suffering on the grandest scales he can.

Heinous Standard?

Only Rosewater can exceed him here, but Alan Gabriel? He's easily boxing outside his weight class. He's a sadistic Serial Killer, facilitates tons of terrorist attacks, betrays and murders his own allies, tries to kill thousands, and loves torturing his prey. His motivations, unlike Rosewater, amount to just "for fun" as well...

Conclusion?

Easy keeper.

And a 'Yes' to Gabriel, who stands out as my FAVORITE role of Crispin Freeman's alongside Kirei Kotomine and Alucard, and considering all the voices he's done, that's saying alot.

Expect another EP from The Big O from myself within the next few hours.

edited 2nd Mar '17 7:37:27 PM by Ravok

Yes to Alan Gabriel, easily. Cut Charon and Griffon (I swear we already cut Griffon earlier... better late than never, though).

Alright, now it's time for my post. This one originates from the comic Steampunk, which was published under Wildstorm's Cliffhanger imprint. What Steampunk was was a sort of attempt to deftly play with the medium... unfortunately, the rather unconventional narrative and the art style of creators Joe Kelly and Chris Bachalo alienated readers and ended the story at twelve issues. However, I'll shoot a recommendation to anyone interested in reading otherwise... what it lacks in interesting characterization and a likable protagonist it makes up for with fantastic art and designs, a genuinely intriguing world and an interesting – if confusing – story, and one of the most entertainingly wicked villains I've read in a comic. I'll get to him in a second, but first...

What's the setting?

Steampunk tells the tale of a radically-altered Europe in the 1800s. Everything has been taken over by a mad dictator and converted into a fantasypunk world in which the rich live in ignorant mirth and the lower-class – called the Underdwellers – are oppressed and forced underground. Our protagonist, Cole Blaquesmith, is unearthed from an odd coffin by two thieves. Finding that half of his body is entirely metal and his heart replaced with a burning furnace, Cole begins a quest to find out exactly who he is and how he got into his situation. At the same time, an act of courage on Cole's part endears him to the underground resistance and he's suddenly made a paragon in the hopes of revolting against the ruler of the cruel empire. Said ruler?

Our candidate today is Lord Mortimer Absinthe, lord of the Absinthian Empire and one of the most delightfully hammy villains I've read as of recent.

Who is Lord Absinthe? What has he done?

In the 1700s, Mortimer Absinthe was a twisted mad scientist feared by the locals as a psychopath. Rightfully so... Absinthe had a nasty tendency to conduct grotesque experiments on animals, in particular grafting parts of animals onto other animals. He details one particular experiment he conducted on his pet dog, Brunhilda. Absinthe recalls with glee how he mutilated the poor thing – grafting table legs onto appendages he'd torn off and wiring her jaw shut – and how Brunhilda continued to love him all the same. Absinthe eventually killed Brunhilda and ate her eyes. He was five when he did this. Regardless, Cole – before any of the amnesia – approached Absinthe in desperation for a cure for his sick love Fiona, who is dying of tuberculosis. Absinthe agrees to help her, on one condition... Cole must find a time machine he calls the engine and bring back knowledge from 100 years in the future. Cole complies. Of course, Absinthe doesn't hold up his end of the bargain and spitefully lets Fiona die, and Cole, furious, buries the Engine under Stonehedge. Absinthe tears out Cole's heart in retribution, leaving Cole's only hope of survival at the hands of a genius known as Hiram Sundown, who converts Cole into a cyborg and locks him away until it is safe to retrieve him again. Hiram never returns.

With the Engine out of his grasp but the knowledge of the future in his power, Absinthe quickly gets to work. Through a period of years, Absinthe uses his knowledge to lead a bloody takeover during which he, in his own words, eviscerated anyone who wronged him and enslaved everyone else. When Absinthe is finished, he now rules over a dystopian England known as the Absinthian Empire (and, implicitly, a good chunk of – if not the totality of – Europe). The upper-class lavish in blissful ignorance while the lower-class – termed “Underdwellers” – are all forced underground, into such squalid conditions it's remarked that the Thames literally clogged up with bodies at one point from so many people attempting to escape. The tiniest bit of rebellion to the regime is mercilessly killed through Absinthe's Dog Soldiers and Underdwellers are free game to be killed and abused at wish, to the point where a few Underdwellers, including a child, are almost killed by one of Absinthe's “street-sweeps” while the populace of the higher ground looks on in apathy.

We first see Absinthe (who has one hell◊ of a cool design, by the by) reporting to the failure of one of his servants, who's little more than a disembodied head without cybernetic support... Absinthe threatens to have one of his servants play cricket with the unfortunate minion's head after he learns Cole has returned, and after he learns that Cole decimated one of his street-sweeps through the raw strength of his mechanical attachments, Absinthe gets giddy and sends one of his many assassins – this being Victoria, Queen of Savages, who would have been Queen Victoria if not for Absinthe's presence – to capture him. Things change a bit and Absinthe sends another assassin, named Faust, in Victoria's place. Meanwhile, Absinthe is approached by a visitor from the corrupt Vatican, a Knight Templar named the Iron Monk who's interested in a deal with Absinthe. To demonstrate some of his prowess, Absinthe displays a man named Rikk, who's limbs were severed by one of his minions, and kills him in front of the Iron Monk as a demonstration.

Absinthe's plan here is where he gets really vile. Absinthe seeks the power of something called the Moonkings, which would grant him immense power. For these, the Vatican wants Absinthe to devise a measure to extract someone's soul in their rigorous quest to breach Heaven. Absinthe instead devises a cruel method of death via injecting radium into someone's pituitary gland and extracting a radioactive substance he passes off as the person's soul. To this end, Absinthe tricks the Vatican into building something called the Consecration Engine to kill people this way, and plots to hand up to three million of London's innocent populace to die within the Consecration Engine so he can obtain the Moonkings and use their power to utterly dominate the rest of the world. Absinthe sneers at the weak-mindedness of his scientist, Medik, as he winces at the prospect of mass murder.

Cole is turned in by Faust and Absinthe, alongside one of his consorts, Miss Hiss, approaches Cole as he's chained up. Absinthe introduces himself (and we get◊ one of my favorite lines from him here: “Salutations, Cole. I'm God. Or if you prefer, Lord Absinthe the Pretty. I'm not choosy.” He gets a lot of wonderfully over-the-top dialogue like that) to Cole, who still can't remember him. Absinthe has Miss Hiss tortuously probe Cole's mind, and when it turns up vacant, Absinthe flies into a fury and rips out the coal powering Cole's furnace – basically his second heart – whilst taunting him about Fiona and then sending him off to be tortured at the hands of Nixon, his right hand man, by having pieces of Cole torn off and fed to Nixon's mutated “children” (themselves godawful, mutated hybrids that are failed results of Absinthe's own experiments). Cole finally recognizes Absinthe as Absinthe boredly leaves the room, telling Miss Hiss join him in a massacre to blow off some steam. Unbeknownst to Absinthe, Nixon plots against him and decides to help Cole get the full extent of his memory back.

The Consecration Engine is activated in the meantime and some innocents are killed by it as a test. With this in mind, Absinthe oversees the Vatican round up dozens of innocents – several children among them – to be killed in the Consecration Engine. Absinthe rants a bit how it's best to taunt the masses with illusions of hope before tearing it away from them to control them, before sending Faust off to gather more Underdwellers for the Consecration Engine. Nixon continues to help Cole get his memory back as Victoria, who's facing a loyalty crisis between Absinthe and the resistance, brings the leader of the resistance, Robert Peel, to Absinthe. Peel defies Absinthe and he's punched out for his efforts, just as Cole himself arrives on the scene. Absinthe quickly deduces Nixon's betrayed him and sends out Faust to kill Nixon, which Faust does successfully. Cole, Nixon's “children” fighting with him and the resistance backing him up, directly combats Absinthe, leading to a glorious battle which ends with the Consecration Engine destroyed, half of London on fire, and Cole flying off with a reformed Vicki as Absinthe furiously tries to shoot them down. Absinthe retreats back to his sanctum with revolution booming on the streets, but Absinthe isn't concerned... in the midst of forcibly restitching his surviving servants, Absinthe cackles that he's got a “pearl of a plan B” – and this is to simply find the Engine Cole buried so long ago.

For part two, Absinthe sadly takes something of a backseat while his servants pursue Cole and co., but he does make a few appearances. During his off-time, we see Absinthe playing golf – with severed heads – and brutally torturing one of Napoleon's (more on him in a bit) men, for up to thirteen hours. At the scene of a latter, Absinthe's bat-cat spy relays him information that Cole's found the Stonehenge, which has been converted into a refuge for former black slaves called “X”s. They aren't as free as they think, though... Absinthe gifts them the illusion of freedom while continuing to use them as free slave labor. When Absinthe arrives on the scene in issue #11, he casually informs the colony's leader that should they stop providing labor, he'll happily kill and replace anyone who rebels against him. Absinthe instigates another battle in his attempt to get to the Engine which ends with Cole and company flying out and leaving a furious Absinthe in the dusty ruins of the Chasm Community.

Unfortunately, the comic ends one issue later, leaving Absinthe's fate unresolved, but we get one more notable deed of his squeezed in before the comic ends... Absinthe, at some point in time, committed a massacre against the French early in his rule while it was under command of Napoleon Bonaparte and continued to lead bloody war against France that was ultimately hinted to have resulted in the loss of most of the country's life, until Napoleon was literally forced to convert himself into an artificial intelligence to assure his and his country's continued survival. Rather nasty.

Any mitigating factors?

Dear joy, no. Absinthe is smarmy, snarky, and genuinely hilarious, but his humor carries a noticeable edge of cruelty to it. He's treated as nothing less than an absolute monster in-universe and rightfully so... he's got no excuse, being a mad scientist from the start, has zilch in redeeming qualities, commits dickish acts ranging from horrible experiments, massacres and genocidal war, slavery, torture, murder, and tricking the Vatican into the attempted murder of millions of people through the Consecration Engine on top of his already hellish regime, and even his one apparently decent quality – leaving the Chasm Community untouched by his rule – is rendered null and hollow. The only motivation Absinthe is given for what he does is a sadistic lust for power and, ultimately, nothing disqualifies Absinthe in the slightest.

He is very entertaining, though. Like... designs aside, he's probably the best thing about this comic, period.

Conclusion?

Absinthe is a keep. A damn shame this comic was cancelled... I imagine Absinthe would have had room to become even worse. For what we got, though? Absinthe is an easy, easy yes.

Thoughts?

edited 2nd Mar '17 8:19:06 PM by Scraggle

'Yes' to Absinthe as well. Dangit, Scraggle, you continuously add to my comic to-read with all these hilariously depraved comic villains...

Yep to Absinthe

Alan Gabriel and Absinthe.

Gabriel and Absinthe.

Charon and Griffon

Also, here was a discussion on Pieter Votrstedt from Lethal Weapon 2. He got mostly yes votes but he didn't go up.

Gabriel and Absinthe.

Could someone PM the original proposer so we can get a writeup going for Vorstedt? He's no less a keep than his boss.

Along with throwing in a 'Cut' vote for Beast's recs, I've got that other Big O candidate I promised.

Who is he?

Eugene Grant is a despicable, smug, hateable little prick with a P.H.D. in alchemy (Is that a thing? Cause I'm making it a thing).

Featuring in only a single episode, titled Missing Cat, Grant is HANDILY the most downright deplorable villain in the series bar the aforementioned Alan Gabriel.

Oh, and he's also voiced in the dub by Tom Fahn. Anyone who has watched Digimon Adventure, that would be the voice of Agumon. I'm now imagining Agumon as a CM....brrrr.

What has he done?

Grant was part of a group of scientists bent on learning how to revive extinct animals, however, Grant became....convinced that this made him a god, and this lead his partners to back out, realizing what a lunatic he was.

Now, having none of that, Grant employed a small army of hired guns, and began kidnapping innocent people then performing horrifying transmutations on them, turning them into agonized beasts that, though mostly ravenous monsters now, retain a little of their original minds, which honestly makes it even worse. >_<

Because Grant is such a petty jackass, he hunted down two of his former partners, kidnapped the couple's child son Roy, then transmuted the poor boy into a cat just to screw with them. Grant later tricks one of his sponsors into adopting a dog from him, that is actually one of his experiments, which proceeds to transform and rip the woman to shreds before being gunned down by police.

Later, the boy/cat Roy is found wandering the city by Dorothy, our android heroine, who immediately takes a liking to him.

When Dorothy and her partner Roger follow the Roy's name tage to his home, where the boy's parents are located, Grant shows up, guns down the couple as they try to save their cat/son, then flees with Dorothy and Roy in tow.

Grant, boasting his godlike awesomeness to Dorothy like the smug asshat he is, reveals the horrifying truth that he has not only transmuted Roy once again into a giant chimera monster, but all those people he transmuted? He has kept them alive, in their monstrous agonizing forms, in dozens upon dozens of glass tubes lining the walls of his office. Of course, Grant sees these as just "trash" to be disposed of one day, but for now, he keeps them alive for....reasons.

When Roger shows up to save Dorothy, Grant sics Chimera!Roy on him, and though Roger is able to duel with Roy to a standstill with his Megadeus, Grant holds Dorothy at gunpoint, distracting Roger long enough for Roy to get the upper hand.

Grant orders Roy to kill Roger, at which point he will use Roy to destroy "all that stands against him", however Dorothy manages to get through to what little of Roy is left in the beast, and the chimera proceeds to grab Grant up in its tentacles, then crack his spine before crushing him to death.

Though Dorothy implores him to stay with her, Roy instead walks into Grant's exploding lab, ending his, along with all of Grant's other victims', miserable existences for good.

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming features?

Not a one. Grant is just a lunatic Mad Scientist who becomes convinced that he's some sort of god for mastering the power of transmutation, and uses it for nothing but petty revenge and greed.

Heinousness?

While not having as high a bodycount (Successful or attempted) as Gabriel or, say, Alex Rosewater, this is due to resources. Grant doesn't have near the resources of those two, and his appearances are even less, with literally one episode to his name.

And even then, Eugene Grant is still a shockingly depraved villain, plunging dsozens of innocents into a Fate Worse than Death, turning a child into a cat then later a chimera because his parents slighted him, murdering said parents, feeding one of his sponsors to a monster dog.....yeah, no other villains get up to near as much crap as Grant beyond Gabriel and Rosewater.

Final Verdict?

Shou Tucker with more victims and a god complex. Keep, Keep, KEEP.

edited 2nd Mar '17 9:54:52 PM by Ravok