There's also the issue that Goanimate itself is troping a ton of disconnected works at once because the program itself isn't tropable. Goanimate the program should be listed under the Platform/ namespace once that becomes official (if it hasn't already, I can't quite remember).
Edited by badtothebaritone on May 1st 2023 at 10:53:17 AM
Yeah, as someone who also used to regularly edit the page (I also found grounded videos a guilty pleasure for a time), I agree that the page has a lot of issues. Along with the parts SkylaNoivern pointed out, the Characters page feels honestly kinda bloated by this point IMO. There are a lot of recurring characters across grounded videos, yeah, but I'm not sure a lot of them warrant their own character entries.
"Hey, gimme a minute to get to know everyone, 'kay, Brainy?" "Of course, but please allow me to get a word in, too, bzz."I was thinking of rewriting the description of the page to tone the complaining down.
The original goal of the service was to make animation free for anyone and this was incentivized by the community features on the site that were phased out between 2013 and 2016. Before 2015, users could either use the "Quick Video Maker", which offered several ready-made "animated shorts" (some of which are based on licensed properties) with the settings and actions already selected, a small cast of characters to choose from, and the ability for you to write dialogue, or the "Full Featured Video Maker", where you can start from scratch and select almost everything by yourself. During this period, it was used by some noted animation personalities such as Paul Dini, who used it to produce his web series Super Rica and Rashy.
GoAnimate/Vyond is best known for its "X Gets Grounded" videos, also simply known as "grounded videos". Primarily made by young kids, these videos detail the misadventures of various characters as they cause or get themselves into trouble in all manner of ways, followed by them getting busted and grounded (grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded) by their parents for absurd lengths of time. These videos are especially known for the troublemakers usually being characters from TV shows aimed at preschoolers, such as Caillou and Dora the Explorer, or simply individuals that the users hold contempt towards.
In late 2015, the company announced their shift to the new HTML5 standard in January 2016 and removed any video-making feature not centered around business. The other themes were immediately incompatible with HTML5, with the business theme rebuilt in the format for its business customers. The removal of these themes resulted in a backlash from users unfamiliar with the HTML5 standard, though the major decline of Adobe Flash and the growing importance of mobile devices that work with HTML5 meant GoAnimate had to do something to keep up with current trends. On May 6, 2018, the website was rebranded to Vyond, with a new focus on providing easy-to-use animations for businesses and other professional uses.
As of 2020, a group of coders in the fandom managed to successfully create a port of the old Legacy Video Maker named "Wrapper Offline", which doesn't require the internet to run and is a mostly-complete copy of the older assets.
You can find it here.
That looks good, yeah. It's also much shorter than the current description.
"Hey, gimme a minute to get to know everyone, 'kay, Brainy?" "Of course, but please allow me to get a word in, too, bzz."Part of wonders if this would be better on Long Term Projects because of how much splitting and moving is going to have to be done.
I didn't consider that.
Yeah, Go Animate is also filled with tons of dead links due to videos/channels getting deleted over the years. A lot of the tropes (like tropes around the voices) I also feel don't fit since Goanimate wasn't the orgin of those voices, they are just widely used tts voices.
Out of curiosity, do I need to close the thread and open it up again in Long Term? Or can mods do that? I don't really use the forums.
Mods can move the thread between subforums. No need to close the thread yourself.
Received the holler. Works that center around cleaning up a specific work page are more suited for short-term, even if it takes a few months or a year — the 'end goal' (a clean work page) is clear.
Edited by Synchronicity on May 12th 2023 at 11:35:37 AM
I noticed there are tropes relating to "Rant videos", which from memory tended to get mocked by the fandom or outsiders. Issue is they're not really tropable - they're just videos consisting of opinions, rather than Caustic Critic style videos. I found a few mentions throughout the main tropes listed, most of which seem to be general and real-life troping.
- Accentuate the Negative: The rant videos, which mostly cover only the negative qualities or simply what the user doesn't like about the subject. What sets the GoAnimate rant videos from normal criticism videos like this is that, most of the time, the user is being dead serious when they're using this trope in their rants (including their Fan Hater-charged remarks).
- Malicious Misnaming:
- The rants made with GoAnimate usually start with the user calling the subject of the rant a derogatory name, moslty in the form of: "(Subject)? More like (Derogatory name)!".
- Take That!:
- Users are known to regularly make rant videos disparaging shows or movies they don't like.
- Most rant videos made with GoAnimate open with the uploader making fun of the name of the rant subject (usually a TV show)note , before proceeding to give an insulting "overview" of the subject, which is then followed by nitpicking the subject's flaws (e.g. "the characters are (insult)") without going in-depth on the subject itself. Afterwards, they state characters or people that supposedly like or hate the subject before dissing it (along with another thing they hate) one last time before proclaiming that another thing is much better than the subject. Lines like "(subject's characters, if it's a show or other fictional work) like to go on failure adventures", "nobody gives a (profanity) about this character... not two, three, four, either. Not even(absurd number)", and "Do you know who likes/hates this (format of subject)? (character)!" are pretty much status quo in them. The sheer fact that these rants boil down to "it sucks Because I Said So" combined with this trope in general make most GoAnimate rants Narm territory by default. The same also applies to the inverse salute videos.
- If the subject of the rant is a show or other fictional work, there is a chance that the uploader will bash the creators or writers (in a style vaguely similar to The Mysterious Mr. Enter, who has been criticized for this) for doing something as simple as creating the work.
- That's not even getting into the rant videos made out of these rants and salutes themselves. While it's understandable for these uploaders to hate the rants, most of the time they always use the same words or points without specifying their actual opinion at all.
Yeah, we can probably do without those examples. In retrospect adding examples like that feels kinda iffy.
"Hey, gimme a minute to get to know everyone, 'kay, Brainy?" "Of course, but please allow me to get a word in, too, bzz."I'll wait for more opinions first.
The Go Animate page was probably one of the first pages I made edits for, back in 2017, as it was something I had a massive guilty pleasure of watching. I haven't edited it in years, but I took a look back at it now after seeing calls to clean it up, and it has a lot of issues. I've split some of the ones I observed into folders.