To-do list:
- Cut all pages and redirects in the VideoSource/ namespace. The full list is located here.
- Completely dewick Main.Video Source aside from the link on Main.Administrivia.
We actually don’t need a wick check because it’s more of an index like Image Source and Quote Source—and not even that anymore because it was causing massive index bloat—but Video Source is just redundant. It’s meant to be a repository for every time a work has been used in a video example... which can already be accomplished with VideoExamples/NameOfWork. Unlike images & quotes, which only have one per page, video examples are analogous to text examples. Anyone can add any number of them at any time.
Given this, it sounds reasonable to cut all Video Source pages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 11th 2023 at 9:51:58 AM
Paging ~Purple Eyed Guma to the thread. Anyway, I don't have a problem with cutting because unlike the other pages Guma mentioned, videos have to be approved by mods, and I don't want to have to update all of these pages every time a video is approved, and it's possible that the other mods don't either (but I'll let them chime in if they're inclined). In contrast, anyone can add an image or quote, and thus anyone can update the pages dealing with their sources without mod intervention needed for either action (aside from mods needing to give the go-ahead for replacing an image).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 8:24:13 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Mods aren't obligated to update those pages. We just let the community do it.
I am fine with cutting the pages because every page with video has a video examples tab. I don't see the point in manually maintaining a list on the wiki when the system automatically does it.
Macron's notesThose pages do indeed look redundant, given how the video examples work.
with cutting them.
Fair enough on what updating these pages entails. I do agree with your rationale for cutting these pages, though.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.It's also redundant with Video Examples auto-index, so we can cut it safely.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupThanks. Cut.
Cut them all.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportAh, I didn't know we had that since I don't do much with videos unless I'm moving a page. Yeah, I stand by my existing cut vote after seeing that we have an auto-index.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Cut all subpages, but leave the main page with a link to the tool Amon posted.
Edited by FernandoLemon on Mar 5th 2023 at 4:36:25 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.As someone who regularly moderated videos for a while (and still does semi-regularly), I do not find any use for these, cannot be assed to update them, and I agree they are redundant even if they were 100% updated. Cut away.
Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 5th 2023 at 1:34:18 PM
Cut
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessCut!
Kirby is awesome.Just for clarification, are you proposing we set it up like Main.Wiki Talk, Main.Trope Talk, and Administrivia.Needs An Index?
Edit: Maybe something like this:
I don't think we'd need much on the page if we're just using a wiki page to direct people to the auto-index. We'd index the page on Main.Administrivia like the other soft redirect pages I mentioned for parity with those pages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 4:39:01 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Yes, that looks good; it's mostly so we can catch inbounds. I'd also keep the second paragraph of the current (the wicks to Video Guidelines and No Video Examples, Please!)
For the same reason as this page, do we need Video Overdosed? I'd be okay with cutting that one too.
I'd like to apologize for all this.I think Video Overdosed is fine as we have Trope Overdosed and I don't care about it much as it's JFF
Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 6th 2023 at 11:31:14 AM
Macron's notesHave to agree, I think Video Overdosed is fine.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI was already thinking about leaving Video Overdosed out of this one, so I agree with the above two posts.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Just so I know, does the Three-Day Rule still apply to this? The answer is probably yes, but I just want to make sure.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallSince this is an index, and one with several subpages at that, I was intending to leave the Three-Day Rule in place. I mainly take a lack of wicks into account for trope pages when it comes to the times it's waived.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 6th 2023 at 1:25:11 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Got it. Didn’t know the procedure for indexes - thanks for the clarification.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Crown Description:
There are concerns that the Video Source indexes are unnecessary, as well as inconvenient to update because only mods can approve videos (in contrast to other indexes like Image Source and Quote Source involving features non-mods can handle on their own). What should be done with Video Source?
To-do list:
We actually don’t need a wick check because it’s more of an index like Image Source and Quote Source—and not even that anymore because it was causing massive index bloat—but Video Source is just redundant. It’s meant to be a repository for every time a work has been used in a video example... which can already be accomplished with VideoExamples/NameOfWork. Unlike images & quotes, which only have one per page, video examples are analogous to text examples. Anyone can add any number of them at any time.
Given this, it sounds reasonable to cut all Video Source pages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 11th 2023 at 9:51:58 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.