Not Tropeworthy: Useful Notes.Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time 2021

Still going down the List of Listicles for Cutlisting... and I've learned some time back that a new Rolling Stone list has been created since we've tackled the AFI lists. Figured I'd use this opportunity to tackle all the Rolling Stone lists, and if at all possible the remaining Music publication lists (NME, Acclaimed Music). Basically for similar reasons (copyright, adds nothing except the contents of the list). Can the film publications in the list of lists be included too?

So yeah, cut these:

• Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time
• Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time 2020
• Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time
• Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time
• Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time 2021

And can the scope be expanded to include the following?

Music

• Acclaimed Music All Time Top Albums (for that matter, the lists within Acclaimed Music)
• NME 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time
• TIME All Time 100 Albums

Film

• Roger Ebert Great Movies List
• Roger Ebert Most Hated Film List
• Empire The 500 Greatest Movies Of All Time
• List Of Films You Should See By The Age Of 14
• Must See Movies Before You Grow Up
• TIME All Time 100 Movies

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Sep 24th 2021 at 10:32:16 AM

I'm in favor of cutting because these pages copied lists from other works that we don't have permission to host, so it could be copyright infringement. Same reason why I was in favor of cutting the AFI pages.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 24th 2021 at 6:58:54 AM

Cut.

Cut.

And now for my non-mod post: Cut 'em all.

Cut

Cut.

They're completely copy-pasted from other sources, so for cutting.

I was mainly focused on the Rolling Stone pages the last time I posted, but I'm in favor of cutting all of them.

~St Fan, ~Tropers/karstovich2, ~Mallen 1996, ~Tropers/Hossmeister, ~Tropers/Macsen, ~KY Cubbie, ~Tropers/prettycoolguy

Need to be given a chance to know about these pages (I don't see a banner yet).

I didn't know banners weren't already added. I'll go ahead and do that.

~karstovich2, ~Hossmeister, ~Macsen and ~prettycoolguy.

I added banners to all the pages listed in the opening post, including Website.Acclaimed Music (which was brought up because of the lists on the page and not the fact that we page a page about that website at all).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 25th 2021 at 8:36:19 AM

I understand that those indices could run afoul the plagiarism rules.

No qualm against cutting them either, they contribute to index bloating.

I don't know why I was alerted to this, since I don't remember ever touching these (if I ever did, it was just some gnomish link fixing)...but yeah, cut.

Made a crowner in case we don't already have enough consensus to cut.

I definitely agree to cut based on infringement concerns alone.

I will say for the Rolling Stone ones specifically, the red links were useful in showing albums and artists lacking a page on here. I know Works' Pages Are a Free Launch, There Is No Such Thing as Notability, and all that stuff but it does make me wish for some sort of page that was like "Works in Need of a Page" if you feel like a work page would make sense to exist, but you may not be familiar enough with the work to start creating it/placing tropes.

Good News! Administrivia.List Of Shows That Need Summary

Cut.

Been past the three day mark, so we have enough to rev our chainsaws just yet?

We might have enough consensus since there have been more posts, so we might not need a crowner.

Admittedly the first page for Rolling Stone's "greatest albums" list is the only reason why I made the article for Changesonebowie; that said, given everything described here, the list and its ilk can all be cut. Not only is it possibly copyright infringement, but speaking from experience, they also encourage inappropriately including audience reaction talk (including critical reception) on work pages.

I'd say move the redlinks over to Summary.Music, then cut.

Edited by bowserbros on Sep 28th 2021 at 8:14:28 AM

It seems like all the artists unaccounted for in the original editions of the Rolling Stone lists have been listed before. I have just added all the artists unaccounted in the recent revisions of the songs and albums lists.

In terms of albums... I'm not sure. I added a few glaring omissions that resided near the top of the album list, but I feel like a lot of them are redundant if the artist is most known for one album, at least in terms of individually listing them in the summary page. Once the artist page is created, then it can be a springboard for the album page existing if so desired. Because of this, I am all for cutting the pages ASAP if you all are ready.

I hollered to ask the mods if it was safe to call, but either they weren't online when I sent the message, or they overlooked it (they've said recently that a holler is automatically sent every time an Image Pickin thread is made, and those can potentially drown out manually sent hollers).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 28th 2021 at 11:28:22 AM