Duplicate Pages and Examples Cleanup

Music.SOUR's trope list is the same as that of its artist, Music.Olivia Rodrigo. It's Rodrigo's only album to date, and removing the duplicate entries would leave her article without a trope list.

I think this should be redirected/merged back into Music.Olivia Rodrigo, and can be recreated if/when she releases enough music to have a 'recurring tropes in her music' list.

I agree with merging the pages together.

I also think it should be merged back, but then again, I don't understand why we even have pages for albums in the first place.

Time to use a little bit a necromancy.

I found Recap.The New Adventures Of Invader Zim ME 6 Dancing With Madness and Recap.The New Adventures Of Invader Zim ME 6 Dancing With The Mad. These are the exact same recap pages but under slightly different titles, both made by ~ZimFan89 who I am pinging so that we can get to the bottom of this.

That was a huge mistake on my part. I was exhausted and rushed when I was putting the page together and didn't realize I'd screwed up the title until after I'd posted it.

The one that's been indexed is the correctly titled one... though looking at it now I realize I also screwed up the Wiki Word naming. I am so embarrassed and sorry.

The first one can be added to the cut list, I forgot how to do that.

VideoGame.Elverdale is a duplicate of VideoGame.Eldervale, except the former page has an image and the latter (the correct title) doesn't. Would it be okay for me to move the image to the correct page?

I don't see why not

Edited by randomtroper89 on Aug 14th 2023 at 3:11:29 AM

Moved the image, cutlisted the duplicate page.

From Surprisingly Improved Sequel:

• While My Little Pony: A New Generation didn't receive many professional reviews due to its low-profile Netflix launch, those it did get were generally much stronger than those of My Little Pony: The Movie (2017), highlighting a stronger narrative, improved pacing, better focus on character, higher-quality animation and comparative friendliness to those outside the fanbase. A New Generation also boasts higher audience scores than the 2017 film on both Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb.

The exact same entry is under Even Better Sequel under the works YMMV page, despite them being (supposedly) mutually exclusive. Complicating this is it's Surprisingly to general audiences (who disproportionately disliked the 2017 movie) but Even to MLP fans (better but mixed options to both movies).

YMMV.Puss In Boots The Last Wish contains both Surprisingly Improved Sequel and Even Better Sequel, the latter commented out presumably over this issue (Surprisingly seems the better fit as the prior movie was forgettably mediocre at best such audiences were shocked by how improved this was).

What to do? How do we determine if the prior work was scored/revived such the sequel is one or the other? What is the line where one becomes the other?

If the first work was poor/mediocre and the sequel is better but not outright good/a minor improvement, is Even Better Sequel the better fit as it's not surprisingly improved?

And given this issue is it worth keeping the two "Superior Sequel" reactions separate? We don't have to kinds of Sequelitis after all. (And You Thought It Would Fail can cover Surprisingly.)

• So sometimes when I look up a film and find that it's not wicked, I try to find others and add them all in one swoop. As I was adding them to the index today, I discovered The Hater wasn't a film with nearly the same name and the exact same country of origin and year of release as Hater, but actually the exact same film. The latter has an old copy of the former's page source commented out, and the main film index has gone back and forth on which page is linked.
• There's a stubby, wall-of-text work page with a copy-pasted description for Yumeochi Dreaming Of Falling For You, and a fleshed-out page under the incorrect title Yumeochi Dreaming Of Falling In Love With You (probably from confusion with the title of the magical manga that fuels the plot).

Not sure if this is the right thread for this - please let me know if I should take this question elsewhere.

I've wondered for awhile if we should merge the character sheets for The Hunger Games and its film adaptation. While the films do have some deviation, with some characters getting more or less time in the spotlight than they did in the books, overall, the films are extremely faithful. Looking at the character sheets, I'm not sure they're different enough to warrant two whole separate sets of pages.

Does anyone else have an opinion?

Pretty sure it's allowed that the original medium and the adaptation have similar, almost duplication of tropes.

Synchronicity mentioned it here

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Nov 28th 2023 at 6:21:37 PM

They could be left as separate.

After all, the Pokémon games and the Pokémon anime have some of the same characters, but they have slightly different characterization and are thus intentionally listed twice (once in the game character page and once in the anime character page).

But you even mention that the characters are treated differently in the different mediums. The same isn't true for The Hunger Games, which is for the most part very faithful.

That said, I'm not too concerned either way; I just don't think it makes sense to compare it to Pokemon.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 28th 2023 at 2:38:56 PM

If they don't deviate enough, there's no need to split character lists.

Edited by Amonimus on Nov 28th 2023 at 10:53:07 PM

The only real differences I can think of is:

• Some characters don't exist in the movie (Madge, Bonnie, Twill, Dalton, etc)
• The District 4 tributes aren't careers in the movie
• Johanna is a little bit meaner and more outspoken
• Cato gets a different death scene with a humanizing speech.

Otherwise, things are more or less accurate as far as I remember, and these changes can easily be condensed down to various adaptational tropes.

Not sure if this is the correct thread for this so I do apologize but I found that a separate page for VideoGame.Yakuza Kiwami 2, the remake of VideoGame.Yakuza 2, was made back in 2020, and that no real upkeep was made on this page other than making the page exist, with no listed tropes, and was only edited once back in 2022. The page for VideoGame.Yakuza 2 already has a folder with Kiwami 2's exclusive tropes inside it.

Should the Kiwami 2 page just be a redirect to Yakuza 2 in that case? In the same vein, I was thinking of making VideoGame.Yakuza Kiwami (a remake of the first Yakuza game) a redirect to VideoGame.Yakuza 1.

Edited by taotruths on Nov 30th 2023 at 9:07:15 AM

I found TropeCo.Excessive Evil Eye Makeup and TropeCo.Excessive Evil Eyeshadow while wick cleaning, and while they're not identical they're basically the same. Which one keeps?

TropeCo.Excessive Evil Eyeshadow has an existing trope and is indexed, so it was probably TropeCo.Excessive Evil Eye Makeup moved and neglected to cutlist.

It got buried right away, so let me ask again more directly: What to do about The Hater (unindexed) and Hater? The first with the definite article is the official translated title.

I am noticing that we have two versions of Beetlejuice actors: UsefulNotes.Beetlejuice Actors and MediaNotes.Beetlejuice Actors…

Never mind. One has been cut.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 21st 2024 at 10:40:48 AM