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#51: Jul 27th 2021 at 5:07:35 AM

Don't know if this is the right place to bring this up, but Amphibia just had a Season 3 folder added that consists only of a poster and "TBA". It was added by Thequietman.

Is this OK, or no?

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#53: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:22:11 AM

It will eventually get a Season 3 so I guess it's not wrong. And they're not necessarily speculating, I guess?

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#55: Aug 7th 2021 at 11:39:39 AM

Okay, I have two things to add to this discussion.

1. Can anyone link to a specific Recap page that they consider exemplary, so we all get a general idea of the ideal way to write recaps?

2. I'd like to add links to two Recap pages I've written; I admit I'm proud of them both. But are they too long and detailed? I tried to keep them to a reasonable length, mentioning everything I considered important without turning them into novellas.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheOuterLimits1963S2E16ThePremonition

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheRatPatrolS1E20TheLastChanceRaid

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#56: Aug 7th 2021 at 5:47:21 PM

[up] those seem fine to me at a glance.

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#57: Aug 7th 2021 at 9:12:59 PM

Thanks, Twiddler!

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#58: Aug 10th 2021 at 6:34:16 PM

Question about troping on recap pages: if an episode page is troping the episodes that appear in the episode, should they be removed from the main work page (so that the only place they appear is on the Recap page and nowhere else)? Or is it fine for them to be on both the episode page and main work page?

I've seen tropers remove tropes from work pages on the grounds that it's on a recap page, or remove tropes from recap pages because they appear on the main work pages. Their arguments tend to be that they're removing duplication.

It's not something I've ever done (I put them on both on the grounds that most people will never look at recap pages, while people who don't even follow the show might end up on the main work page, where a reference to a specific episode title will be meaningless to them because they're only looking at how the trope is being used). However, given that you're all looking at ways to standardise recap page troping, I thought I'd flag the question


Can anyone link to a specific Recap page that they consider exemplary, so we all get a general idea of the ideal way to write recaps?

If there's one thing that the RWBY tropers do well, it's the Recap pages (Recap.RWBY). There are a lot of recap pages, but every single one conforms to the same style. note 

  • The Recap.RWBY index page summarises each volume, and indexes the individual episode pages using the same style formatting for each folder. note 
  • All the episode pages have (style example: Recap.RWBYV 5 E 6 Known By Its Song):
    • Short summaries (one or two lines at most, occasionally a very short paragraph instead): the recapping focus is on the tropes rather than the description text.
    • An image from the episode
    • A page quote, image quote and end-page quote
    • A list of 3+ tropes (and almost all of them have 10+ tropes)
    • The same page layout and formatting (Volume/episode number headers, Episode title headers, navigation bar formatting, and who wrote/directed the episode).
    • All the recap pages are Spoilers Off, and no spoiling of future episodes is allowed.
    • Some of the recap pages have videos on them that showcase a trope that's in action in the episode, but this is the one thing that is not universal to every page.

I have no idea who made the layout decisions for this work's recap, but the fandom's stuck to it quite strictly, making for an extremely consistent recapping experience. It may not be the style others choose, but if you want an example of a comprehensive, consistently designed approach to recap pages, this is actually one work that does exactly that.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 10th 2021 at 2:58:59 PM

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#59: Aug 12th 2021 at 3:36:17 PM

According to this ATT post, if a story trope is on the recap page, it should be removed from the main page. The characterization trope(s) should be on the character page, not a recap page.

Edited by gjjones on Aug 12th 2021 at 6:37:06 AM

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#60: Aug 26th 2021 at 11:43:11 PM

Recap.Some Call Me Johnny is just a list of his "review marathons", which are just when he does multiple videos in a row on a single franchise. Doesn't really seem like a proper use of the namespace.

EDIT: It's been cut.

Edited by Primis on Aug 30th 2021 at 11:13:22 AM

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#61: Aug 30th 2021 at 8:27:58 PM

I'm currently working on cleaning up the Animaniacs recaps. I noticed that pretty much every page aside from the first has a weird format and some very odd spelling and capitalization. I just finished episode 2, and I'm about to start on episode 3.

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#62: Oct 12th 2021 at 10:43:38 PM

So, while cleaning up Recap/ Not So Different wicks, I found two questionable recaps:

Both of these issues beg the questions of if Recap pages have to follow similar content rules as other work pages do. That is, need at least three tropes with context to avoid being cut.

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 12th 2021 at 1:43:52 PM

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#63: Oct 13th 2021 at 10:29:54 AM

Maybe someone can go through the ATFW work page and move work-specific tropes to their applicable Recap pages?

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spyland2 Since: Jun, 2021
#64: Oct 17th 2021 at 8:43:05 PM

I've noticed that the recap pages for Code Geass on this wiki tend to summarize the episodes in question, however, they don't provide a list of tropes within the episodes. What should we do about that? Thanks.

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#65: Nov 3rd 2021 at 1:58:27 PM

Scott The Woz is just a list of episodes, and it says that tropes about the episodes belong on the main page. It should be cut, right?

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#66: Nov 10th 2021 at 9:05:42 AM

Recap.Metal Gear

More like "Let's provide synopses for each installment with no trope lists".

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#67: Nov 10th 2021 at 7:21:54 PM

[up] Synopses alone are fine, but I think in this case it'd be better have this split up across the individual work pages. So Recap.Metal Gear 1, Recap.Metal Gear 2, etc.

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#68: Dec 1st 2021 at 12:38:14 AM

Recap.Case Closed for the long-running Detective Conan series. Ok, fair point, its a Long-Runner, but clicking open the folders... its just a long list of episode titles without any links.

The page isn't dead — it's constantly updated according to edit history — but again, is that kosher?

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#69: Dec 1st 2021 at 1:43:48 AM

It should either index at least one recap subpage or contain synopses. It looks like it does neither.


Moved all the Metal Gear recaps.

Edited by Twiddler on Dec 1st 2021 at 2:07:21 AM

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#70: Dec 1st 2021 at 11:58:56 AM

Recap.The Real Ghostbusters is just a list of episodes.

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#71: Dec 1st 2021 at 8:08:10 PM

Ditto Recap.Eight Simple Rules and Recap.Angry Birds Stella

I'm assuming if we come across something like this, we can bring out the chainsaw?

Edited by RobertTYL on Dec 2nd 2021 at 12:11:46 AM

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#72: Dec 1st 2021 at 8:13:24 PM

Maybe?

I don't know if there's actually been any consensus on that.

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#73: Dec 1st 2021 at 11:01:01 PM

I honestly don't know if the episode lists really hurt in these cases. Would it be better if we redlinked them all as to encourage people to actually make the recap pages?

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#74: Dec 2nd 2021 at 12:36:25 AM

The Chart Show is a list of lists of songs. Is the work even tropable? Two of the three tropes are misuse. Do we have an "Is this a tropable work?" thread for this kind of thing?

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#75: Dec 2nd 2021 at 12:49:05 AM

[up] Sounds like someone wants to use TvTropes as his (?) personal blog for... reasons.

As all those pages were made 7 years ago and have not seen any updates ever since, and most of them have between 0 to 20 inbound wicks, I say bring out the katana


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