Trope Report Revival

Re: Needs Wiki Magic Love

The newsletter category used to be just for tropes, but it sounds like you're talking about expanding it.

Doesn't the changelog cover the same stuff as the changes section? I mean, it would still be useful to have a newsletter style explanation for that stuff, especially since not everybody is going to check that thread.

There's so much stuff in Needs Wiki Magic Love, so I'm not sure how y'all would handle highlighting anything in that. But it would be very cool to highlight launches and new pages off to a good start to keep their momentum going!

I think the plan was to make a separate thing for tropes that need more attention- a new trope spotlight as well as a general trope spotlight for obscure tropes. Because as discussed elsewhere, we have an obscurity problem that plagues a lot of otherwise perfectly fine tropes, and that's a little different than a work page needing more work. We need to discuss both.

Gotcha, and I'll have a look at that. Launches doesn't exactly provide information about what the tropes are, and people who don't frequent TLP aren't looking at it. Highlighting new launches would be cool.

Well, there's Cartoon Throbbing and my launch, Studiopolis.

Edited by ccorb on Sep 7th 2020 at 9:37:18 AM

Ditto for Industrialized Mercury, Metropolis Level and School Setting Simulation.

Okay, now that I'm actually awake and on desktop...

It sounds like there'd be at least the following:

• New Trope Spotlight
• Obscure Trope Spotlight
• Works Needing Help

For "New Trope Spotlight," there should be a crowner, or if not that then thread voting. It shouldn't just be a matter of writing up a blurb about any new trope, because we'd run into a number of bias problems. If we require a simple majority of the volunteers then it'd at least be more difficult for personal biases to get in the way.

Regarding "Obscure Trope Spotlight," I think there needs to be an "age limit" on how young the trope can be. It's pretty arbitrary, but I imagine the idea to help out older tropes that haven't gotten a lot of traction. So at the youngest, I'd say a year. I don't think this would need to be voted on, though. That would probably be too much of an obstacle when dealing with old, obscure tropes (especially if they've been abandoned by their launchers from way back when).

Is there someone "officially" taking up the mantle of editor in chief? Should we have a separate thread for when things actually start?

Stereotypical South Asian English would be a recent one to highlight.

For Obscure Trope Spotlight, it would have to at least be a year old.

New Trope Spotlight would likely be at least a week or two old, so as not to repeat the Newest Trope feature on the front page.

Edited by ccorb on Sep 7th 2020 at 5:24:08 AM

Bumping for discussion, should we start a signup?

This sounds pretty fun and interesting! I would be okay with writing for it.

It seems like there are a lot of people willing to pitch in, so it would be helpful if a staff member chimed in to see how we can really get his effort going. Do we just post in Newsletter/? How would this be known to the greater site — via bulletin?

I fully agree with this comment on the Needs Wiki Magic Love sections, including the need for thread consensus. I also don't mind being 'editor-in-chief', or at least a frequent contributor. How do these categories sound?

• New Trope Spotlight
• Obscure Trope Spotlight
• Works Needing Help
• TRS Changelog
• Forumwatch
• Work Spotlight (?)
• Project Spotlight (?) - thinking this could be used to highlight cleanups, etc. that need more hands

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 12th 2020 at 2:40:46 PM

I think that those catagories sound good.

Again, this Trope Report would be a good place to announce policy changes and the like. I'm up for starting a signup sandbox later today.

Where's the sandbox, ~ccorb?

Haven't made it yet.

I've posted about moving this effort forward in the mod thread but have gotten no response yet.

I think Trope Report could potentially work if every new issue was advertised through a headline for...a week, let's say (provided that we go for a monthly release schedule).

If you want to go ahead, we would need to delegate some responsibilities in order to make it work:

• Chief Trope Report Officer: Sets deadlines, manages the rest of the team, offers general direction, proofreads before publication.
• Editors: Contributors would probably be better if they were given specific areas to watch out for. Forumwatch for someone who hangs around most forums, someone else with a category that advertises tropes that need work completed in TRS, new decisions, blablablah.
• Failure to meet a deadline 3 times in a row would result in replacing an editor for at least some time.

This is late and dunno if there is enough interest in this project but wouldn’t mind being an editor for this

Edited by MacronNotes on Nov 13th 2020 at 11:04:55 AM

That's right, it's been a month. Where's the sandbox, ~ccorb? (I'm gonna keep bugging you until someone else takes the role of Chief Editor or you actually do the job.)

Meh I made it. Sandbox.Trope Report, signup time yall.

Some things need fine tuning (the age limits for trope spotlights are a suggestion from earlier) but once we get a good group of participants going we can discuss the fine points (possibly in a new thread).

Tagging people who expressed interest: ~MacronNotes ~War Jay 77 ~Tropers/ccorb ~Tropers/naturalironist ~Water Blap ~Tropers/crazysamaritan ~Divine Flame 100 ~MadameButterflyKnife bring your friends sorry if I missed anyone it's like 2am and I'm off to bed after this

Sorry I didn't make the sandbox. I'm a student.

Still, I'd be up for doing a column.

Edited by ccorb on Nov 14th 2020 at 7:09:42 AM

Same here.

Pinging ~naturalironist and ~crazysamaritan, Synchronicity screwed the pooch on the markup.

If anybody is interested in contributing to Trope Report, sign up in the sandbox.

It appears I have been summoned. What's going on again, because I forgot.