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So this is a place for people who are interested in helping out, or getting help with, wick checks. Maybe you just want people to double-check your work before you submit it to the TRS, or maybe you have a big project in mind and can't tackle it on your own. Either way, you've come to the right place!

Remember to check out How to Do a Wick Check for a run down, and feel free to browse Tropes Needing TRS if you need ideas for what trope to do a wick-check for.

For the list of current and completed projects, see Wick Check Project. Once your wick check is done and ready to go to a TRS thread, see the TRS Queue.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 4th 2022 at 11:55:13 AM

MatthewLMayfield What, me worry? from wherever he damn well pleases (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
What, me worry?
#3401: Mar 12th 2023 at 9:57:45 AM

I've started a wick check for Jerkass Has a Point (Wick Check here) to see how many just reads as audience reactions rather than in-universe reactions

MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#3402: Mar 14th 2023 at 6:48:23 PM

Can I just start a wick check for a trope I think has problems on my own, or do I need to ask if the trope needs one?

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
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#3403: Mar 14th 2023 at 6:53:32 PM

[up] Just start it. If it’s a duplicate trope or tropeworthiness issue and you’re not sure, there are threads in Trope Talk for both (that I can’t currently link because I’m on mobile).

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Mar 14th 2023 at 9:53:45 AM

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MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#3404: Mar 14th 2023 at 7:26:47 PM

Its more of a “I think Easily Forgiven is actually subjective” issue.

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#3405: Mar 14th 2023 at 7:29:10 PM

[up] Oh, just do a wick check. “Actually YMMV” shouldn’t be too controversial of an argument.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#3406: Mar 14th 2023 at 7:32:37 PM

Right, in that case you just have to determine whether the usage is subjective or not.

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VerySunshine Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3407: Mar 15th 2023 at 6:03:58 PM

I've done a Wick Check for Lie Back and Think of England based on the statement in Tropes Needing TRS about it being used for non-consensual encounters. It's located at Lie Back And Think Of England Wick Check. I'm worried it might have too many entries from the top half of the wick list.

More worryingly, three of the entries involve characters under the age of 16, the age set by our The Content Policy. One of those entries is so fixated on the underage character that I worry I will violate No Lewdness, No Prudishness if I repeat it. I put those in their own folder and classified them as misuse.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3408: Mar 15th 2023 at 7:41:37 PM

[up]

     Misuse: Character unable to consent/Under the age of 16 | 3/ 50 6% 
Per TV Tropes policy, characters under the age of 16 are considered minors.

  • Meth Project: In "Sisters", a teenage girl pimps herself and her little sister out to a group of men for drug money. As the video ends, the older sister can be heard saying, "Just close your eyes, Sarah..."
  • Fan Works under Vale's Underground: The sex scene with Neptune and Weiss. Due to the Weiss not being interested in it, the idea isn't really as sexy as it could be otherwise. Characters are teenagers in the original show.
  • The Last of Us: It gets even worse when one considers the big reveal of the Left Behind DLC. One must seriously hope that Ellie is bisexual as opposed to an out-and-out lesbian, because if it's the latter, she won't even be able to suck it up and enjoy the sex. Her only option when the inevitable comes will be to Lie Back and Think of England. This DLC is for The Last of Us, when Ellie is fourteen.

Per TV Tropes policy, characters under the age of 16 are considered minors.

The rule you're referring to is specifically for fanfic recommendations involving explicit sex. I don't think it's relevant here, since we're not discussing endorsement.

The first and third entries are describing non-consensual sex even without taking the character ages into account, so I think they can just be merged into the "rape" folder.

The second entry has the characters aged up to their twenties, according to the work page. (And anyways, in the original show, they're 17 or older.) According to the work page, one of the characters is a lesbian who has been made to marry a man to have grandkids, and she is pretending to be into the other character, who is unaware of this when they have sex. I don't know what category it would fit, but it's certainly not this one.

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#3409: Mar 15th 2023 at 8:12:54 PM

Perhaps a "questionable consent" category?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
VerySunshine Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3410: Mar 16th 2023 at 10:40:27 AM

Okay. I'll put the entries in the "underage" category into the correct categories. The entry for The Last of Us is written in an extremely speculative manner. I might put this in "other" for being too vague to call.

Edit: As suggested above, it's in the second folder.

Edited by VerySunshine on Mar 16th 2023 at 12:00:37 PM

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#3411: Mar 16th 2023 at 11:03:41 AM

[up] Honestly you could probably queue up Lie Back and Think of England. I was the one who added it to TNTRS, and I stand by my rename proposal. Even if there are a lot of correct entries, the incorrect ones combined are numerous enough IMO to justify a rename argument.

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VerySunshine Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3412: Mar 16th 2023 at 11:19:44 AM

[up]I just added it.

Edited by VerySunshine on Mar 16th 2023 at 12:19:55 PM

Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3413: Mar 17th 2023 at 8:33:52 PM

Finally finished the wick check for Kansai Regional Accent. How does it look? and can anyone help me organize?

Next up, a wick check for Tohoku Regional Accent and Keigo!

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NineTailedCat The Fourth-Placers' Revenge from bad to worse (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Fourth-Placers' Revenge
#3414: Mar 17th 2023 at 11:52:45 PM

I've started up Dark Chick Wick Check, since Dark Chick is defined as an evil counterpart to something that's no longer a trope (The Chick) and is likely destined for similar cleanup.

EDIT: And done. It looks pretty bad, all right - of actual examples rather than potholes, misuse and ZCEs dominate. I'm taking it to the TRS queue.

Edited by NineTailedCat on Mar 18th 2023 at 1:22:52 AM

I like cute things. You gotta deal with it.
selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
#3415: Mar 18th 2023 at 8:07:04 AM

[up][up] I think it's well done, Ayumi.

You can maybe divide the "has some context" examples to "accents that reflect personality" I think I saw like 3 examples like that (including that foreign character) and any unspecified context would just be "other (varied) context". Your folders are good to put the wicks in them.

Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3416: Mar 18th 2023 at 8:17:32 AM

[up] What are those 3 examples btw?

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selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
#3417: Mar 18th 2023 at 12:12:29 PM

  1. Goblin Slayer: Adventurers Guild Members (Harefolk Hunter).
  2. Dog Days (Jaune Clafoutis).
  3. Ed, Edd n Eddy - The Kids (Rolf)

The trope is mentioned to associate traits and stereotypes with people speaking in a Kansai accent anyway so it can be retooled to that or expanded to a broader "personality = accent" trope.

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#3418: Mar 18th 2023 at 2:27:28 PM

Just completed Sandbox.I Knew It Wick Check on a whim based on a comment on another thread about it being more of a YMMV concept than Trivia. How does it look? Is I Knew It! actually YMMV? I'd argue so, since IMO a fan theory is an opinion, but I'd like another opinion.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Mar 18th 2023 at 5:34:11 AM

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Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3419: Mar 18th 2023 at 5:53:20 PM

[up][up] Edited accordingly.

Can anyone help me organize it?

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Kayube Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#3420: Mar 18th 2023 at 10:19:56 PM

I did this wick check for Why We Can't Have Nice Things and I'm not really sure what to make of it. It seems like the destruction aspect of the trope is more popular than the collective consequences aspect, but I don't know what that means for how the trope should be defined. I don't think just "valuable object gets destroyed" is really enough to be a trope.

selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
#3421: Mar 19th 2023 at 2:41:18 AM

You need to include the exact example not just your interpretation of it so we can see if you sorted them well and if anything needs resorting or another category needs to be added bc I'm lost. Some wicks don't include any context but aren't listed in a ZCE folder so I can't tell if they're ZCEs or not.

Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3422: Mar 19th 2023 at 5:35:56 PM

Finally finished the wick check for Tohoku Regional Accent, all that left is Keigo.

Any thoughts on the wick check for Tohoku?

Edit: The wick check for Keigo is also done now. Thoughts on it as well?

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Mar 20th 2023 at 4:47:34 PM

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MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#3423: Mar 20th 2023 at 3:12:00 PM

Just stared Sandbox.Easily Forgiven Wick Check and would like some help since I am busy with college work.

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VerySunshine Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3424: Mar 20th 2023 at 3:47:39 PM

Ayumi-chan, that looks great so far! You should put them in the folders.

____

I'm working on a wick check for One Degree of Separation at One Degree Of Separation Wick Chevk. (Yes, I misspelled it.) It's about almost all of the characters being connected to each other. 43% of the entries for this trope are on character pages, which is throwing off my count. Some franchises have many character pages, which makes it seem like the franchise has many connections overall, but the individual character pages only list a few.

Edited by VerySunshine on Mar 20th 2023 at 5:32:42 AM

Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3425: Mar 20th 2023 at 10:57:58 PM

Decided to start up the check for Spiritual Antithesis, how does it look so far?

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