This is a thread to discuss those Administrivia pages in need of a little updating- you know the ones. The ones that still cite rules we've long since changed, or the ones that don't properly cite our current standards. Some of them are even scattered in Main/!
So, this is the place to take those pages and fix them up with the help of the community.
For a list of current projects, see Outdated Administrivia Pages.
Note: This thread is not for asking mods to make one-off edits to Locked Pages, Administrivia-related or otherwise, such as requesting additions to an Example Sectionectomy index. Please use this thread
for that.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 21st 2023 at 9:12:02 AM
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That's probably since a decent number of rules arguments on this site are of the "Eddie or Fighteer said such-and-such in a random forum post once" variety.
Lost in Space
What would you suggest for some of these alternate titles? Redirects are free.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Well, when I tripped up over List of Shows That Need Summary, my instinctual first effort was Administrivia.Works Needing Summary.
What To Put At The Top Of The Page always trips me too- something like Administrivia.What Goes On The Top Of The Page, while still wordy, is much less clunky.
I can't remember the other ones that keep tripping me up right now unfortunately, but when I do, I'll be back.
Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 19th 2020 at 2:33:51 PM
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Veteran Editor IV
For List of Shows That Need Summary, Works Needing Pages, obviously. Other than that, I don't think I had problems.
Edited by Piterpicher on Aug 19th 2020 at 10:54:52 AM
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(she/her)
As for people spamming Works' Pages Are a Free Launch, I don't really see a way to stop that besides maybe renaming it to something less catch-phrasey (probably not the right term). I don't know if that will do anything though.
Macron's notes
Perhaps cutting it would do? The page is a leftover from the time where TLP nee YKTTW were optional for both works and tropes and we needed to differentiate between the latter two. Given that now the software does that distinction perhaps it's no longer needed?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Maybe? Yeah, admittedly the only real use it has is telling people "you don't need permission to make work pages".
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she/her
I'm not sure cutting it will do anything, since links show up as blue in TLP comments even if they're supposed to be red. People might not even notice that it was cut.
Friends forevermore
No sense in cutting it; it still serves a theoretical purpose.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
This line was discovered on Tropes Are Tools
Judging from the page history, it's been there since at least 2010, aka old TVT.
Since it describes a behavior that is no longer in line with policy, any objection to zapping that line?
No objection. It doesn't fit with the tone we're trying to achieve on this site.
Rock'n'roll never dies!
he/him | Image Pickin' regular
Zap it. That page is locked, so a mod needs to remove it.
Keet cleanup
With the removal of that line, there's probably gonna be very slightly less motivation to bash works.
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
If you mean Tropes Are Tools, it actually isn't locked.
Anyway, I don't understand what that is doing on Tropes Are Tools of all pages. "Tropes Are Not Bad... actually, no they are." Plus, Snark Bait was recently made Flame Bait due to a combination of it being used as a non-Darth So Bad, It's Horrible and less negative forms of snark being covered by So Bad, It's Good.
Edit: I removed that part of Tropes Are Tools myself, and noted in the Locked Pages thread that the page isn't locked.
Edit: A different post in the locked pages thread asked for Creator Bashing to be moved to Administrivia/. Was that discussed here? I accidentally closed my tab for this thread, so I absentmindedly ended up missing some of the stuff in this thread while refreshing the tabs for threads I follow. (I'm aware of the thread-following feature; I just prefer to keep tabs open and refresh them from time to time for the sake of, well, keeping tabs on threads I frequent.)
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 21st 2020 at 12:00:20 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Thanks to the current discussion on Edit Banned, I realized that Up for Grabs could use some updating- mostly to note that a draft being UFG doesn't mean you can't rogue launch it- it means it's in need of a sponsor who will care for it and launch it when it's ready.
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
No, can't was correct.
People are under the impression that if a draft is UFG, you can launch it. To them it's not a "rogue launch" since there's no sponsor.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Double negative there. "a draft being UFG doesn't mean you can't rogue launch it" = "a draft being UFG means you can rogue launch it"
But yes, the page could use updating to make clear the rules about rogue launching.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
No, I said "can't" because people don't even realize rogue-launching rules apply to UFG drafts. That's why I used the wording I did- because people don't think "I'm allowed to rogue launch", they think "It's not a rogue launch".
But yes. We need to update it.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Ahh, I see. You used "can" in the sense of "able to", I read it in the sense of "allowed to".
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Yeah, that's it.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I'm helping!
Well, clearly we'd better not use that particular phrasing 
Something more like "Up for Grabs does not mean free to launch".
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Aug 22nd 2020 at 4:52:58 AM
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
I'd second that point. The Administrivia pages are actually quite important, and way too easy to miss. I've seen rules arguments where people didn't actually link the rules they were arguing about, and easier access wouldn't hurt.