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Lately, we've been having some trouble with pages in the Roleplay/ namespace, and much debate over how to handle said pages. Problems include:

  • Auto-Erotic Troping
  • Major problems with example context
  • The difficulty cleaning up or verifying the content on said pages, often due to these roleplays being private or otherwise inaccessible

In this thread, we will discuss and clean-up these works so they conform to the rules of the wiki, and can be understood by any reader regardless of whether or not they take part in the roleplay.

Here are some useful sandboxes for our cleanup effort:

  • How to Clean a Roleplay - a sandbox guide to determining availability of, locating, and cleaning up pages to roleplays.
  • Roleplay Cleanup Thread is used for sorting pages after we examine them, whether they've been cleaned, cut, or shelved, and anything in-between.
  • Roleplay Cleanup Thread Indexing is used after a cleaned and verified page has been added to the first sandbox. We try to add these pages to our indexes, with the plan to create actual indexes later on.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 15th 2022 at 11:27:21 AM

whizzerd Transcender of Gender from Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Transcender of Gender
#476: Sep 13th 2019 at 3:23:58 PM

Go Tabs! [awesome] On my end, I went through Characters.We Are Our Adventuring Avatars, Characters.We Are Our Avatars Escapist, and Characters.Weeping Willows Spirithand and gave them all a good clean-up.

[up] We all got stuff we did in the past that we regret. I know there's a couple of RP work pages out there that I edited a good seven or so years ago, and I'm gonna have to get back to them sometime soon. @-@

they/them || "Forgive me, regent of queer amphibians" - Lt.BGob
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#477: Sep 13th 2019 at 3:25:44 PM

I'm just glad I never put any of my RPs on this site. I would've if I knew I could've, back then.

Big batch coming tonight to make up for lost time.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#478: Sep 13th 2019 at 3:46:10 PM

Oh trust me, making pages incorrectly is the least of my worries. ._.; But that was back then. I'm much better about it now.

Anyway, I'm not sure the rules on the alignment tropes. I mean, sometimes they are relevant to a character, but I forgot how they worked page-wise.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#479: Sep 13th 2019 at 4:01:10 PM

Alignment tropes have been forbidden due to The Great Character Alignment Debate. They're Flame Bait because they can cause controversy.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 13th 2019 at 7:02:35 AM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#480: Sep 13th 2019 at 4:04:19 PM

Ah. Well, despite the relevance to the character(as it's in-universe), that'll have to go then. I can still easily mention her characterization without linking it or directly even writing it out, though. I'll look into it in a bit. I'm a bit tired right now.

...Oh. I just read the page you linked. I just need to re-write it. She's canonically Lawful Good, and it's in-universe too. Right now it's poorly written without context. I forgot how to do the In-Universe tags too. It also doesn't help I don't remember the context exactly, so I'll need to double check that. It might be only something to put in the character description instead of the trope list.

Edited by Irene on Sep 13th 2019 at 6:05:59 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#481: Sep 13th 2019 at 4:05:54 PM

Wait, it says that canon alignment can be kept. You may just have to say "In-Universe".

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#482: Sep 13th 2019 at 4:08:42 PM

Edited my message. Nonetheless, I gotta re-look into the rp. For other issues, like context, etc. It's been yearrrrrrs.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#483: Sep 14th 2019 at 12:56:06 AM

Ah, OK. I dismissed them as out-of-universe and therefore a no-no. Of course In-Universe use can stay.

There must be a trope for "the one possession they have left from old times", but I can't think of it. Security Blanket conjures a different picture. The image of Shadow cuddling a gun was amusing, but I figured that really isn't what the roleplayer had in mind.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#484: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:50:27 AM

I'm the same Irene/Hydronix in question. That's actually what I had in mind. But yeah, that's a ZCE and has to be fleshed out anyway.

Though again, tired. Feel free to fix up any small bits and I can flesh it out properly later. It was a huge rp, which is the only reason some characters are shown without information on them(yet). I don't think that's kosher though(though commenting them out is probably a good idea instead?).

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#485: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:00:02 PM

The main page has 'em commented out already. As for the characters... well... the page can be found here tongue

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#486: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:23:52 PM

  • Cloud Coliseum: Danganronpa. Did the old "moved examples over" thing.
  • Coalition Of Ponyist States: Had to go link-finding, but luckily, it was easy. Needed a ZCE cleanup. Character's page given usual treatment.
  • Code Geass Blood Stained Alternatives: Needed basic cleanup.
  • Come Winter's Light: More link-finding. Needed a lot of ZCE cleanup, but there are enough good tropes to keep. YMMV cutlisted as a stub.
  • Comicfury Crossover RP: Website seems down. Page itself is small but keepable.
  • Comic Fury Werewolf: Long page that needed cleanup. It's a page that tropes an entire collection of Werewolf and Mafia games held on the site. Character's page has no tropes on it, so I'll cutlist. YMMV page also needed cleanup.
  • Communication: Big ol' page needing cleaning. Page has so many spoilers I'm considering making it spoilers-off; what do ya'll think?

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#487: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:30:27 PM

I've seen worse. The page has had recent editing activity earlier this month, so maybe invite them to give the spoiler tags a-fixing? Little reminder of the spoiler tagging rules and all that.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#488: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:33:48 PM

Maybe later. Cleaning that page exhausted me, so I may need to go back in and make sure I fixed everything I wanted to fix.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
whizzerd Transcender of Gender from Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Transcender of Gender
#489: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:39:55 PM

I searched for the Comicfury Crossover RP on the Wayback Machine; main board page shows up, but there's only a page or two of the actual RP's available.

they/them || "Forgive me, regent of queer amphibians" - Lt.BGob
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#490: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:53:35 PM

Oh, didn't see you mention cutlisting the page, actually. I'll have to rework some bits of mine first. And Sandbox it. Duly noted. Thank you.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#491: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:11:18 PM

Communications editor TrueChaos has reached out to me; I responded in-PM, but I'm also sending a link to the thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 14th 2019 at 8:19:01 AM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#492: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:14:46 PM

Hello! I would like to discuss what's been cleaned up on the Communication page and why.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#493: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:18:09 PM

Hey, there. So you said some of what I removed may not have been necessary removals? Which examples are you referring to?

I'll admit to having gotten tired and disinterested in the cleanup process, so it's very possible I did get sloppy and delete things I shouldn't have.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#494: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:21:47 PM

First: Five-Man Band. Why did you delete that?

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#495: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:28:19 PM

Ah, that was more related to my effort as a member of the cleanup for that trope. See, as of now, there's no consensus on whether it's okay for a Five Man Band to have more than two girls. Since no agreement has been reached on that, I deleted the example as misuse. We also don't consider The Sixth Ranger and others to be part of the band, which also contributed to the misuse aspect, but honestly the gender-ratio was my main concern. As of now, the trope only allows for two girls, which I personally disagree with, but on principal I have to chop misuse when I find it.

For reference, here is a link to a page on that thread where the gender ratio issue was mentioned.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#496: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:31:16 PM

...That sounds kinda sexist to be honest. I thought it'd be five people.

Alright, so it HAD to be boys and girls in a group in order for it to count as this trope?

Edited by TrueChaos on Sep 14th 2019 at 5:33:15 AM

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#497: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:34:36 PM

Five-Man Band isn't simply a "group". It's a group of 5 specific tropes instead. Many can easily be 5 members, but they don't fit by that alone. They must be the Leader, the Lancer, the Big Guy, the Smart Guy, and the Chick.

I didn't see the discussion about the female bit, so I don't know why that is what it is. But there's no questioning that it has to be these exact 5 tropes. If it isn't, it's not an example of Five-Man Band. It's just a group of 5.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#498: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:36:56 PM

Hey, don't blame me. Like I said, I also think the gender restriction is silly, but the current limit was decided by Fast Eddie, and there's been no proper consensus to widen it yet. I wasn't part of the deciding group for it, I'm just trying to follow the rules currently set by the trope. If you want to debate for expanding it, please go to that cleanup thread, since there's a lot of opinions on the subject.

As for the roles, yes, only the five people in the band count for the trope. The more members added, the more likely it is that people are being shoe-horned.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 14th 2019 at 8:37:37 AM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#499: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:38:24 PM

Alright, fine.

Next thing: why was Do Not Taunt Cthulhu and For Want Of A Nail blanked out?

Edited by TrueChaos on Sep 14th 2019 at 5:38:54 AM

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#500: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:39:56 PM

I'm all for looking at the trope rules, as it does seem restricting. I feel that The Chick and The Heart would be fair to be interchangeable. It was Admin fiat, and he's no longer the Admin. It might be worth looking at the discussion to see if it's just an outdated thing that may be better to redo.

Anyway, that's my only bit to say on this.


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