Suggestion: Discontinuity Nod

I have two suggestions for this trope, though more are welcome:

Image 1

Image 2

I much prefer 1.2 simply because I liked It SV so much, but I'd be fine with either.

1.1 is too context dependent, since it really doesn't illustrate anything.

I like 1.2.

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1.2

Keet cleanup

They're both terrible. Too caption-reliant.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

It's not an easy-to-depict concept and probably needs a good caption. But in OP's suggestions, not even the captions help to understand what's wrong with those nods.

I agree with karxrida.

Any image would run into the problem of requiring familiarity with the work in question to be illustrative.

We need to show:

1. A memorable moment in the work;
2. A negative audience reaction to that;
3. A callback to that moment.

I'm thinking BUPKIS, but I'm not really sure. to the OP, at least.

Spiral out, keep going.

I'm also thinking BUPKIS, and I have the same opinion of the OP.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 21st 2019 at 8:39:45 AM

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BUPKIS

(Annoyed grunt)

For those arguing for BUPKIS, what's wrong with 1.2?

Keet cleanup

^ I wonder what's shameful about the situation in upper pic.

To go by Millership's list of criteria, it shows point 3 at least somewhat clearly, but 1 is only clear in context, and 2 isn't shown at all. It looks more like it's portraying an ordinary Mythology Gag than anything.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 21st 2019 at 11:35:11 AM

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^^ The emo Peter Parker dance scene in Spider-Man 3 is pretty infamous in fan circles, and this is referenced in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Edited by SingingRain on Jan 21st 2019 at 1:27:37 PM

In fandom yes, but maybe not outside those circles.

^ What matters is that it's referenced in Spider-Verse as a Discontinuity Nod, which the lower picture and caption make clear.

The image itself only shows Mythology Gag; it doesn't actually illustrate that the top image was negatively received and the bottom image is making fun of it.

Plus, if you weren't familiar with the Sam Raimi films, you might not know that the dancing man in the top image is Peter Parker (i.e. Spider-Man). Therefore, it isn't even clear that both images are from Spider-Man media, and thus it could be misinterpreted as a Shout-Out instead of a Mythology Gag.

Is 1.2 an example? Yes. Does 1.2 illustrate that on its own without needing to know outside context? No.

Edited by PeabodySam on Jan 21st 2019 at 4:49:41 AM

The lower picture without a caption could pass as a Mythology Gag, Call-Back or Shout-Out. The caption is doing literally all the work here, and it's not even good at that when it's already kind of illustrating Let Us Never Speak of This Again.

Edited by Karxrida on Jan 21st 2019 at 1:48:49 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

Maybe this◊ could work from from Mega Morphs #3? However, understanding it relies on the dreaded "outside context".

20 feels slightly better than the other two, since at least it clearly references an event, and then displays the characters being embarrassed by the event. But I'm still not sure whether I'd consider it good enough to be a page picture.

20 tentatively works.

(Annoyed grunt)

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

Yeah, tentative for 20. Can be bolstered by a caption linking to the New Fantastic Four (which doesn't appear to have a page on this wiki...?).