I definitely like Jalter more than the Lion King. Its just that since she's playable, I don't really praise her as an antagonist but as a character since she can be explored as more than just an Antagonist.
EDIT: She calls Ritsuka "puppy" regardless of gender. She calls Mash "deerlet".
Edited by RebelFalcon on May 6th 2020 at 8:19:21 AM
Vegeta: I'm back bitches!
Just another weeb
Mami- if you're getting impatient from LB 1's story Salem will break you.
Edited by Unlikelyauthor2 on May 6th 2020 at 7:21:38 AM
Regardless of your opinion of the last American election, we can all agree on one thing- The Chinese Communist Party can choke on scrotes!
Anka Aquila
@ Rebel
Admittedly, the Lion King suffers from being too much of a No-Nonsense Nemesis to actually explore her beyond Camelot, arguably that's on par of what her true nature is but then the next singularity kind of undoes that justification. And it's not like there's no material to work with, just the fact that she chose Jerusalem alone to be her seat brings potential for character exploration.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.Outside of that, she's just bland. People call Lartoria bland, but at least she explores the disconnect she has being a Divine Spirit and fearing she isn't human anymore, and tries to reestablish her humanity and bond with the Knights of the Round.
Lion King is just a robot, the personification of everything wrong with Artoria's rule. She's also rather heartless, giving Mordred a gift that was killing her and planning on letting her die with the rest of the world, forcing a gift on Tristan that turned him into a monster, attempting to kill Gawain for a single failure, and acting with Condescending Compassion in how she "saves" humanity. And lets not forget she ordered half of the KOTR slaughtered for refusing to follow her plan, including her adoptive brother Kay, and completely forgot about Bedi despite him being the most loyal Knight she had and being one of her closest friends.
Her one redeeming factor is her relationship with Agravain and how she comforts him as he dies, but outside of that, I dare say this bitch is a Hate Sink.
It just ends up pissing me off when people call the Lion King this complex and deep character and deride Lartoria as a walking boob joke.
Edited by RebelFalcon on May 6th 2020 at 8:39:10 AM
Vegeta: I'm back bitches!
Isn't that the entire point of the Lion King, though?
CHADhan Player.
Jalter does have the benefit of having multiple events centered around her too.
The perks of being the game's premiere Breakout Character.
Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on May 6th 2020 at 8:38:38 AM
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Read the addendum.
Met up with Umu Bride. I missed our little Emperor, she's always such a ray of sunshine.
Fergus didn't even know what hit him.
Nero and Elisabeth are such good friends.
Well, I think I'll call it a night.
Oh God, it's over. I thought I'd never leave that node, it went on for fucking ever.
Also Patxi is cute, I love dogs. He's less serious that I expected him to be. Anyway, it's 2 a.m., time to pass out , peace
I don't mind lots of story actually, I'm just so tired right now, my body is killing me.
Edited by Mami on May 6th 2020 at 2:05:14 PM
I absolutely cannot help but adore handsome 2D boys
Just another weeb
Something I've been thinking for awhile. If Cahval II had been able to come to Chaldea, what do you think are the ods of him getting killed off in the prologue to part 2?
Regardless of your opinion of the last American election, we can all agree on one thing- The Chinese Communist Party can choke on scrotes!
Anka Aquila
@ Rebel
And that last saving grace was because she was returning more or less to who she was prior to being the Lion King.
Speaking of, the characterisation of the Lion King is part of the reason why I don't think that Galahad will recieve the Wodime treatment, many of his traits and his title of the Perfect Knight just screams Fallen Hero if we follow Nasuverse's views on perfection and humanity.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
vicarious
Galahad being perfection and alienating because of it is kind of a thing in Arthurian tradition
The Once and Future King explicitly sets it up like that
Yeah, it's basically the point of his character. We'll probably get more of an understanding of his Po V when we see him next, but I can't see anywhere close to the full Wodime treatment.
And honestly there's only so many times you can subvert expectations before the audience starts rolling their eyes.
Edited by deludedmusings on May 7th 2020 at 12:20:06 AM
You know, the prototype cast are hard to follow when technically the second half doesn't exist.
Anka Aquila
Here's my guess of Galahad's character in the setting.
Given what we have learned of Galahad so far, and seeing his role and character in Arthurian mythos, he's likely going to be a very depressing case of a Sociopathic Hero who underwent a Face–Heel Turn that was written out of record.
Him being described as relishing the fear of death and him asking to go to Heaven as the Holy Grail ascended -in other words, wishing for his death- makes me think that he was a Death Seeker who went to Camelot to be the Perfect Knight because that is what a person like him would do, to serve the perfect realm under the most brilliant king.
This of course would turn his good acts from deeds out of kindness and humanity to something akin to programming, like reading over a script on "What a perfect person must do" without understanding the "why" people consider such acts good in the first place.
Now, let's return to his wish, we have to remember that the Arthurian mythos weaves together elements of Celtic Mythology with Christian theology and religious themes, and one big element of Christianity is that the only one who gets the final say on death is God Himself.
What Galahad asked was something that not only went against his oath to Camelot and Arturia but also against God's will, and since this is the actual Holy Grail, it's very likely that God refused his wish and took the Holy Grail to Heaven, leaving Galahad alive as mercy and to understand the foolishness of his wish.
Since we know that Galahad still died and if we take into consideration what has been mentioned thus far, it's likely that this is the point where Galahad has a Freak Out over his inability to understand why is him, the Perfect Knight, denied passage into Heaven and forced to remain in this imperfect world with its flawed people.
There are two scenarios of what happens next, either Galahad storms out and leaves Camelot behind and never coming back; or, he lashes out against his fellow knights and is thus killed by them, with his manner of death being covered up to prevent the Round Table from falling apart.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
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Pretty sure Lizzie calls Gudako Deerlet. I exclusively play as Gudako, and I've never been called Puppy.
Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.I've flipped between male and female, yet Liz always calls me "Puppy" regardless of my gender. Is it cause I was male first, or is there just something up?
I wrote an entire 
about Galahad's problem on the page months ago. Here it is for simplicity.
Many theories have been going around as to why he seems so different, such as that he's not the actual Galahad but rather the Lostbelt one, or that he's the Archer to Ritsuka's Shirou and actually a future version of himself that failed to stop the Alien God, but there's an idea that's a lot more simple. He was always like this. If one thing has been established about the Servants of Camelot, its that they had a crap ton of issues and didn't know how to process them properly. With Galahad, the way everyone described him was simply a front. A mask he put on to hide his own issues. The only time that mask fell being when it involved his father, Lancelot, who he hated enough for it to influence Mash, and when dealing with someone who could break through his mask, Mordred. Galahad's tales in the lore of the Knight of Round left him jaded, and to hide his true feelings, he put on the image of "The Perfect Knight". When in truth, he was a Broken Ace. He'd Took a Level in Cynic, and only pretended to be what the others saw him as.
So when he sees what happened to the Earth after the Alien God touched it, he doesn't even bother with the mask. The Earth is practically gone and he blames Ritsuka for it, since in his eyes the Earth itself takes priority over humanity. Even in lore he had a similar attitude where the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few. In the original quest for the Holy Grail, Galahad had been tasked with obtaining it so he could use it to bring prosperity to Britain, and he had been able to obtain it because he was considered pure. Pure Is Not Good however, he was pure because he didn't put personal feelings over what was just, so rather than bring the Grail back to Britain, he returned it to God. In doing so however, he perished as well, by his own request. Thus his relishing the fear of death makes more sense: he was something of a Death Seeker. He defied the orders of his king and did what he thought was right. So in the case of Goetia vs. the Alien God, he figured Goetia was the Lesser of Two Evils. While humanity dies in both cases, at least the Earth remains with Goetia.
So why did he help us against Goetia then? Simple, he didn't help us, he helped Mash. Mash is something of a Morality Pet to him, the girl he watched tortured by Chaldea for the sake of creating a demi-servant. He had a soft spot for her and gave her some of his power so she could live. But he didn't influence her, nor did he tell her to fight Goetia. She did that on her own to help her master and Chaldea, even though doing so was slowly killing her. So when he sees Chaldea is attempting to fight the Alien God, he won't allow history to repeat. He sees no point in fighting the Alien God, and he knows if he helps Mash, she'll just help Ritsuka. So he ultimately sees himself with no choice but to abandon her.
There is also one other thing supporting the idea that the Galahad we see is his true self, and the one the knights knew was a mask: Fate Requiem introduces a Saber Servant as one of the major characters: Galahad Alter. Alterhad is explicitly said to have abandoned the Knights Creed and his identity as "The Perfect Knight", and acts a lot more like how he's described by his fellow knights, and more like his father Lancelot, being a Handsome Lech. Alter servants are specifically described as alternate versions of Servants due to various circumstances. Edgemiya was broken enough due to his actions as a Counter Guardian he's pretty much an Empty Shell. Salter is one who feels cruelty and hatred is needed to achieve her goals. Alcides is Heracles forced to abandon his ideals and relive his trauma, turning him into the Nay-Theist and a dark killer. So Alterhad is one who abandoned the persona he had to bear, and was no longer pure. He became as the others described him, but only because he was tired of the burden being "The Perfect Knight" brought him.
So when the Sixth Lostbelt comes around, Galahad will return, and it will be acknowledged that his cynicism has made him into pretty much a Straw Nihilist, and he will be given a Shut Up, Hannibal! by us, calling him out on his flaws while also making him realize he can't drown in cynicism anymore. Only then will he be back on Chaldea's side. The Sixth Singularity was where Mash awoke to her true potential and gained access to his power. The Sixth Lostbelt will be where Galahad is finally saved from himself.
Edited by RebelFalcon on May 6th 2020 at 11:21:02 AM
Vegeta: I'm back bitches!
Shocking Gun!
As long as Jeanne exists, I have hard time believing that "Pure automatically equates to bad".
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
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I also started as Gudao, but I switched to Gudako about a week after playing. Just to make sure, I replayed some scenes from the first Halloween event, and these are her talking to Gudako.
Edited by ITNW1989 on May 6th 2020 at 8:15:50 AM
Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.The first halloween is sadly one of the events I never got to play, along with the first christmas.
Vegeta: I'm back bitches!
If only the writers of Game of Thrones figured that out in time.
No, I'm still not over flogging this dead horse.
Shocking Gun!
@raziel: That is good and all, but we know for a fact that Galahad A)Didn't wish for anything with the Grail and B)died in line of duty.
From Solomon's mats:
The same with him, someone who was granted by God "the chance to have his prayer fulfilled". Solomon had wished for wisdom, but Galahad had wished for nothing. Solomon questions "Why?" in regards of that matter, and bears a sense of inferiority that comes from his subconscious regret, thinking that "I should have done so.
From Fate/Zero:
Edited by TPPR10 on May 6th 2020 at 6:24:41 PM
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
I heard Elisabeth used deerlet and i played female Ritsuka.
Jeanne not truly pure. Onee-san mode.
Fiy, she going to be the Grand Saber via Michael.
Edited by WhirlRX on May 6th 2020 at 11:23:43 AM
BTW Nouct when you mentioned the FGO Orchestra was this the one you were referring to?
Shlugo,
Both the pig and the squirrel plushies reference Hakuno. Liz nicknames male Hakuno "pig", and female Hakuno "squirrel". Similarly, she calls male Ritsuka "puppy", and female Ritsuka "deerlet".
EDIT:Darn page-toppers.
Also, regarding skills that care about how many critical stars you have, it counts from the number of stars that are on your available command cards. So Semi's Sikera Usum will steal eight stars from your command cards... unless you somehow have over 50 stars, in which case Semi will take from the excess first.
Edited by Tsuzurao on May 6th 2020 at 5:21:31 AM