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Oct 23rd 2016 at 7:23:16 AM

AFAIK there is no specific rule against subpages for Useful Notes beyond specifically work-related ones like YMMV. Analysis would be rather redundant, but I see nothing against Laconic or Quotes.

Katanas of the Rising Sun does a massive job of treating the Japanese imperial army as a tropeable entity. More than half the page is a trope list.

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Oct 26th 2016 at 4:40:48 AM

Lot of real life troping on Francisco Franco and Shaka Zulu as well.

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Oct 31st 2016 at 3:36:34 AM

The American Revolution has a pretty comprehensive trope list, including some blatantly NRLEP tropes like Anti-Villain, Face–Heel Turn, Moral Event Horizon, and audience reactions like Crowning Moment Of Awesome.

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Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:46:22 AM

Norwegian Constituent Assembly is troping a real life event for all its worth.

All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day. Put the pieces back together my way.
Dec 8th 2016 at 8:37:25 AM

Simo Häyhä just tropes the man himself. Doesn't seem like he has a very strong media presence either.

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 8th 2016 at 9:28:49 AM

Awesome person, but not an interesting part of media. I'd say it should be cut.

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Dec 8th 2016 at 12:03:29 PM

Lots of Sporting Event pages have tropes on them. The Olympic Games even have two trope sub-pages. Are they considered some form of media?

edited 8th Dec '16 12:05:54 PM by N1KF

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Dec 8th 2016 at 12:19:11 PM

The Olympics is enough of a work that they can, and probably should, have a trope list. The opening ceremonies, ad campaigns, closing ceremonies, action montages and coverage can definitely be troped.

But the actual sports cannot.

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 8th 2016 at 12:21:52 PM

Sporting events straddle something of a line between a performance and a real life event. Especially since most are not scripted. Production tropes and Camera Tricks are absolutely intentional tropes in the media. Always Male and Always Female, I think are argueably examples, and Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever is definitely an intentional storytelling example.

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The Number1KirbyFan
Dec 8th 2016 at 1:26:38 PM

Should they be in Useful Notes, then? If they are works, I think they should be in a media namespace, just like Game Shows are.

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Dec 8th 2016 at 1:27:50 PM

In discussions past, tropes about the rules have been tropeable, it's discussions about the events (in the "real life events" sense, not "sports events" sense) that are not. So yeah, Always Male can work, but not something about a specific occurrence.

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 8th 2016 at 1:51:40 PM

They are in useful notes because they are pages primarily about real life events that are used in fiction.

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Mar 15th 2017 at 5:03:58 AM

This might be old, yet I restored some tropes on UsefulNotes.The Renaissance, as to me, the page is also a Setting page.

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Apr 4th 2017 at 11:36:39 PM

If anything, what kind of tropes should I put on Coco Chanel and Pocahontas?

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Apr 5th 2017 at 8:11:46 AM

There is no reason to add tropes to those articles unless you can identify a pattern of works using the tropes in their portrayals of the people or things in question.

So if Pocahontas is, hypothetically, frequently portrayed as a Granola Girl or Magical Native American when she shows up in fiction, those would be acceptable to list on the article about her. Don't bend the tropes into a pretzel to get them to fit, though.

As for The Renaissance, it should be made clear in the examples that they refer to the media portrayals of the era. It is not clear in the Pimped-Out Dress and Renaissance Man entries that this is the case.

edited 5th Apr '17 8:15:33 AM by Fighteer

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Jun 16th 2018 at 2:58:08 PM

UsefulNotes.Norwegian Constituent Assembly has a problem of being troped as if it was a work of fiction. I already removed several tropes that are no No Real Life Examples, Please!, but the trope section probably needs an overhaul, or should be cut entirely.

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Jun 17th 2018 at 9:20:01 AM

[up]This is the sort of thing that I wonder why it has a useful notes page at all- there are only two fictional uses listed, and one is just a jokey reference.

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Jun 20th 2018 at 1:43:48 PM

Armenia is a good page but has a list of tropes that seem to be troping the country/its history itself. Should I remove this section? There isn't anything horribly inappropriate, but it's still against policy, right?

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Oct 4th 2019 at 8:52:59 AM

I am a big fan of the company SpaceX, but our Useful Notes article seems to have no content on it that is relevant to the wiki. It also conflicts with the trope Space "X" and its custom title in particular.

I just cut the trope list for violating our policy, and unless SpaceX is featured heavily in creative media, there would seem to be no point in having an article on it at all.

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