Troping Real Life on Useful Notes

AFAIK there is no specific rule against subpages for Useful Notes beyond specifically work-related ones like YMMV. Analysis would be rather redundant, but I see nothing against Laconic or Quotes.

Katanas of the Rising Sun does a massive job of treating the Japanese imperial army as a tropeable entity. More than half the page is a trope list.

Lot of real life troping on Francisco Franco and Shaka Zulu as well.

The American Revolution has a pretty comprehensive trope list, including some blatantly NRLEP tropes like Anti-Villain, Face–Heel Turn, Moral Event Horizon, and audience reactions like Crowning Moment Of Awesome.

Norwegian Constituent Assembly is troping a real life event for all its worth.

Simo Häyhä just tropes the man himself. Doesn't seem like he has a very strong media presence either.

Awesome person, but not an interesting part of media. I'd say it should be cut.

Lots of Sporting Event pages have tropes on them. The Olympic Games even have two trope sub-pages. Are they considered some form of media?

edited 8th Dec '16 12:05:54 PM by N1KF

The Olympics is enough of a work that they can, and probably should, have a trope list. The opening ceremonies, ad campaigns, closing ceremonies, action montages and coverage can definitely be troped.

But the actual sports cannot.

Sporting events straddle something of a line between a performance and a real life event. Especially since most are not scripted. Production tropes and Camera Tricks are absolutely intentional tropes in the media. Always Male and Always Female, I think are argueably examples, and Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever is definitely an intentional storytelling example.

Should they be in Useful Notes, then? If they are works, I think they should be in a media namespace, just like Game Shows are.

In discussions past, tropes about the rules have been tropeable, it's discussions about the events (in the "real life events" sense, not "sports events" sense) that are not. So yeah, Always Male can work, but not something about a specific occurrence.

They are in useful notes because they are pages primarily about real life events that are used in fiction.

This might be old, yet I restored some tropes on UsefulNotes.The Renaissance, as to me, the page is also a Setting page.

If anything, what kind of tropes should I put on Coco Chanel and Pocahontas?

There is no reason to add tropes to those articles unless you can identify a pattern of works using the tropes in their portrayals of the people or things in question.

So if Pocahontas is, hypothetically, frequently portrayed as a Granola Girl or Magical Native American when she shows up in fiction, those would be acceptable to list on the article about her. Don't bend the tropes into a pretzel to get them to fit, though.

As for The Renaissance, it should be made clear in the examples that they refer to the media portrayals of the era. It is not clear in the Pimped-Out Dress and Renaissance Man entries that this is the case.

edited 5th Apr '17 8:15:33 AM by Fighteer

UsefulNotes.Norwegian Constituent Assembly has a problem of being troped as if it was a work of fiction. I already removed several tropes that are no No Real Life Examples, Please!, but the trope section probably needs an overhaul, or should be cut entirely.

This is the sort of thing that I wonder why it has a useful notes page at all- there are only two fictional uses listed, and one is just a jokey reference.

I agree.

Armenia is a good page but has a list of tropes that seem to be troping the country/its history itself. Should I remove this section? There isn't anything horribly inappropriate, but it's still against policy, right?

Yes, it's against policy.

For the Norwegian Constituent Assembly page, I removed all the No Real Life Examples, Please! tropes.

I am a big fan of the company SpaceX, but our Useful Notes article seems to have no content on it that is relevant to the wiki. It also conflicts with the trope Space "X" and its custom title in particular.

I just cut the trope list for violating our policy, and unless SpaceX is featured heavily in creative media, there would seem to be no point in having an article on it at all.

Seems reasonable to me.

Requesting assistance with wick cleaning prior to cutting UsefulNotes.Space X.

I just want to point out that SpaceX no longer has any wicks.