Family Unfriendly Aesop cleanup: Remove misuse and complaining

Should I ask this thread be locked then?

Sure.

I removed these from My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, as I Expected

• Family-Unfriendly Aesop:
  • The way to help someone with a problem is not to encourage them or to be gentle and civil, it's to point out everything that's wrong with them as harshly as you can. Sure, people might hate you for a week or so, but they'll forget about it pretty soon.
  • Alternatively, being cruel to be kind and using Brutal Honesty is only bad if you're Hachiman. If you're popular, you can be as much of an asshole as you want and get away with it. This is especially notable with Yukino, who's just as cynical as he is, and even more aggressively rude, and personally used "The Reason You Suck" Speech to stop Hachiman from doing so, and therefore should have faced the same consequences as his earlier actions...except she didn't.

Edited by WhirlRX on Jul 16th 2020 at 11:28:39 AM

This from YMMV.The Bernie Mac Show

• Family-Unfriendly Aesop: There's an episode when every member of the Mac family admitted to some kind of dishonesty. Bernie fessed up to making Jordan fake an asthma attack, so they could go to an L.A. Clippers game to see Michael Jordan play. Jordan used that original lie as leverage against Bernie, and cut down a cherry tree Wanda wanted to grow for no reason other than the plant being an eyesore. Vanessa lied about not going to an R-rated movie, but was exposed when she slipped out an important plot twist from the movie, which Bernie recognized. And Wanda, despite chastising those three, was also exposed to lying about attending Bryana's play, because a beauty appointment kept her away. Bryana was seen by the other four as the moral center, because of her incorruptible sweetness. Even that was subverted, because Bryana's sneaky bed jumping throughout the episode kept Bernie from suspecting her of foul play when his bed kept messing up (a yellow arrow lampshaded this with a "best liar of them all" tagline when Bryana kept hopping on the bed). The lesson: honesty is the best policy, but only when lying doesn't benefit you anymore.

I say cut.

From YMMV.Little Misfortune.

Family-Unfriendly Aesop: Not everyone should be a parent. And as painful as it is to lose a child, it's also a burden in and of itself to raise children you never wanted. Misfortune's mother was forced to marry an abusive man because she wasn't allowed to get an abortion when he got her pregnant, and Misfortune's home is broken and impoverished with her mother miserable and Misfortune unloved. The Good Ending of the game is her mother becoming happy only after her daughter's death (if Misfortune gifts her the "Eternal Happiness" with all the glitter collectibles.)

I believe this can be a Hard Truth Aesop.

Move to Hard Truth Aesop.

Some examples I'm not sure what to do with.

Star vs. the Forces of Evil S2 E37 "All Belts Are Off"

• Family-Unfriendly Aesop: In-universe, Sensei apparently learned from watching a children's show that friends "do hurtful things to each other without explaining why, because they know their friends will understand."

• In Ivanhoe, Rebecca refuses to marry Wilfred of Ivanhoe because she was Jewish and he was Christian and crossovers were looked down on on both sides. Sir Walter Scott said specifically that he was trying to avert Good Feels Good because he thought teaching readers to be good for that reason was a Family-Unfriendly Aesop.

• The character known only as the "Magic Man" uses his magic powers almost exclusively to harass people for his own amusement. He was exiled from his home planet for such crimes as turning all of the water on the planet into hair, fusing people's bodies together and making people's shadows come to life and attack them. He also uses his powers to set up Family Unfriendly Aesops; in his first appearance on the show, when Finn gives him some food thinking him to be a beggar, he turns Finn into a giant disembodied foot so Finn can "learn to appreciate what a jerk I am."

• Family-Unfriendly Aesop: In-universe, the whole "Looks Are Everything" slogan, which the Professor does not agree with.

Sensei might be A Lesson Learned Too Well or Alternate Aesop Interpretation. Ivanhoe may be replaced with Secretly Selfish. "Magic Man" might be Spoof Aesop or The Corrupter.

I think we need the trope "Immoral Aesop" for Aesops that are presented as wrong in-universe. Thoughts?

Bump. Just cut this from Zoey 101.

• Family-Unfriendly Aesop: "Rumor Of Love" has one: if somebody's mean to you, humiliating them in front of the whole school is an appropriate reaction.

Was that a good idea?

thats ik to cut

That's a good entry for DarthWiki.Warp That Aesop, not Hard Truth Aesop.