For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.
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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
This Laconic was actually there before I put it here. I was asking to see if anyone had ideas for switching. But either way I like yours but I’m gonna wait to see if anyone else has anything.
the Retromancer
It was?
Ah, I see, it was at Laconic.The Incredibles and is now at Laconic.The Incredibles 1.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Yeah. I split the pages up earlier so I was doing some improvement here and there. I just left it as a placeholder until a better description can be placed
Edited by Jobyrdthegamerbyrd on Apr 7th 2023 at 9:26:52 AM
She / Her
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
(x4) Your suggestion for Laconic.The Incredibles 1 looks good to me.
Reposting
(though I added something)
Someone without an edit reason rewrote Laconic.Chronic Backstabbing Disorder and the made the Laconic unreliable; it currently states the character has to constantly betray people, however, that is not always the case as the character just has to do so repeatedly. It also removed the detail that the betrayals have to be successful, which is part of the trope.
Can I revert it?
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Laconic.Generic Cuteness isn't very descriptive. I'd rewrite it, but I'm not in a position where that's easily possible right now. Any help?
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Accidentally submitted page move of that turned Laconic.Big Break into a redirect to the work.
And lost its history.
It originally said:
Do we even want to remake it?
Edited by Malady on Apr 9th 2023 at 5:31:06 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
I fix my examples all the time
Proposing new laconic for Laconic.Not So Stoic, since the current one consists of chained potholes.
She / Her
I prefer your version, partly because it states that the emotion showed has to be significant and the current version doesn't mention that detail. So, ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_up_emote.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
.
Because several days have passed (it's currently the 12th of April where I live for the record) and I think it's getting buried, I think it's ok for me to bump
(x4).
Bye
I vote to revert it
I fix my examples all the time
yeah, revert
Lucas the Dreamer
How’s this for Crippling Overspecialization?
She / Her
andThanks.
It looks fine to me.
In Laconic.Bilingual Bonus, someone changed the description to make it say it involves a meaningful message or dialogue. However, the main page just says it involves a hidden message and doesn't mention meaningful text.
Can I revert it?
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Apr 13th 2023 at 10:37:22 AM
the Retromancer
Laconic.Kaiju Girl Caramelise: "Shoujo romance meets Kaiju movie." Even after the pothole was replaced, it's still a X Meets Y style that doesn't tell much what's it about.
Suggestion: "A shy girl transforms into a giant monster whenever she's feeling stressed, which becomes a regular problem after meeting a boy she likes."
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Edited by Amonimus on Apr 16th 2023 at 5:27:55 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
^That seems good.
MLM of color
Forgot about this thread! Changed Plot Hole from:
- The story directly contradicts itself by breaking a previously established rule, and it's also without a reason that's logical for the work's universe, or it simply wasn't explicitly established or even implied to be possible beforehand.
To:
- The story violates its own rules without logical reason or prior setup.
That's telling the same while being more laconic, so .
the Retromancer
Laconic.Intentional Engrish For Funny is a chained sinkhole. What should be done? I'd keep only the Played for Laughs pothole, or just nuke them all.
Edited by petersohn on Apr 20th 2023 at 3:35:00 PM
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
Lucas the Dreamer
Laconic.Sing 2 is merely stating the obvious, and says basically nothing about the work itself.
Edited by FernandoLemon on Apr 21st 2023 at 8:48:42 AM
I'd like to apologize for all this.
Professional Wick Checker
Laconic.Ambiguous Innocence is a bit too long for a laconic.
How about this?
Characters doing actions that are deemed immoral or inappropriate by society due to a lack of moral understanding/general unawareness that it's "wrong".
[[Willy's Chocolate Experience The Unknown]
This Laconic in Till is kinda rude and has zero contexts.
"One of the most egregious examples of injustice in history."
Since when the word "egregious" become an appropriate word to describe something? It feels kinda mean for me.
So, what to do with it?
Edited by Bubblepig on Apr 22nd 2023 at 11:50:18 AM
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”
Haven't seen the film, but distilling from the description, something like this could work:
"Biopic of the person who kickstarted the Civil Rights Movement."
Edited by petersohn on Apr 22nd 2023 at 8:57:47 PM
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
the Retromancer
Laconic.A Team Firing has two laconics, though admittedly very clever.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Suggesting: "A family of superheroes tries to blend in with Muggles, but an issue from the father's past puts them all in danger."
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup