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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
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Laconic.Caffeine Bullet Time is awful.
How about something more like
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- Yes, much better.
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Laconic.Planet Eater is much too jokesy at the expense of clarity:
How about something more like:
Blapper of Water
It's a little, idk, trying hard to avoid the word "eat," but there's no reason to not use that word. Also, remember that wittiness is preferred to academic style. What about
Found this from Laconic.The Wicker Man 2006
The Unknown
Yeah, that needs to be changed ASAP.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
- I like it.
- Yes. How about just reusing the 1973's one, and maybe a bit updating it?
"A remake of the 1973 cult horror classic about human sacrifice."
Or just cut one / both?
Edited by Malady on Jul 21st 2018 at 6:31:25 AM
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Laconic.Useless Without Powers just rephrases the trope name:
Is there a more informative way to phrase that?
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"Take away their powers and they can't kick any ass."
Or maybe past tense it or something.
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Blapper of Water
Agreed. Hence this thread, I suppose. Maybe "A character who literally eats planets or their 'life force.'"
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Laconic.Hold Your Hippogriffs is almost entirely written in blue links, which I'm pretty sure is not allowed. Maybe change it into something like, "Replacing the words of a common saying with a setting-specific terminology," though this would probably need a few more tweaks.
Edited by Adept on Aug 14th 2018 at 1:28:23 AM
Laconic.Your Mom: "Yo momma's so fat she doesn't fit on the Laconic page..."
Better if it's something like:
"An insult or joke revolving around someone's mother".
"Magic can do literally anything but you must create a unique ritual for it."
Is that right? I'm not getting that from the description...
Edited by Malady on Aug 17th 2018 at 3:07:05 AM
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- Fake title used to protect information about the movie actually being made.
This should be more generic than it is, because working titles have more uses than just this one.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
How about:
- Maybe "Preliminary", instead of "Fake".
"Fake" implies intentional deception. How about,
"Temporary title used to refer to a work during its production."
Yeah. I agree. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
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~Tropers/Adept: That seems fine. It's basically a more concise version of the description's first line, in which the trope is defined.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Romance Novel's Laconic is:
That's not fully accurate right? Can't a Romance Novel actually not be porn? It's called Romance Novel, not well, Erotic Literature...
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I agree. There's a difference between romance novels and erotic literature. Obviously, they can overlap, but they often don't because there's no guarantee that erotic literature will actually be 'romance' literature. There's definitely no guarantee that PWP stories will be romance novels.
Edit: Total aside, is that what PWP is translated into these days? Back in ye anciente days of yore when the Internet was barely a twinkle in the eyes of fanzine (fanfic) authors', PWP meant "Plot? What Plot?" — while that certainly did mean "Porn Without Plot", it's not what the letters stood for.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 3rd 2018 at 11:47:12 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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Laconic.Home Early Surprise is the supremely unhelpful sentence "Arriving home early is bound to give you a surprise."
Anyone have better ideas?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
- Well, the trope is general, right? It could be any kind of surprise, so that's about the best we can do?
Unless you go, "Commonly, finding out your significant other is having an affair" or something.
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Question, can laconic pages have a page quote?
The RWBY has the following laconic, which requires people to know multiple works just to get the point. Also, the bold bit was deemed inappropriate the Cerebus clean-up thread because Cerebus doesn't apply to this work. As a result, it's been removed.
OR
Harry Potter meets Sailor Moon mixed with Bloodborne.
OR
Antithesis of Warhammer 40,000
I was thinking something like the following:
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 10th 2018 at 6:54:03 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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- I suppose. I don't watch The CW, so I'm just working with what the pages are giving me.
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