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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
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So I would normally take this to cleanup thread but I figured I would get a quicker answer here. I found this on FanPreferredCouple.Western Animation:
- Harley Quinn (2019): With Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn being a couple in many comic continuities but never on screen, it was inevitable the ship was more popular than the canon Ivy/Kite Man in Season 1. Eventually resolved when Harlivy becomes canon at the expense of Kite Man at the end of Season 2.
I feel like this entry has an idea of what the trope is, an no canon ship that is bigger than a canon one. The problem is that even while the first season was airing the creators made it clear that Kite man was a Romantic False Lead and that Harley/Ivy would be canon, so that would normally lead to it being consider creator preferred. However, I am torn on this. So thoughts?
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Isn't Fan-Preferred Couple supposed to be for pairings that fans want that aren't canon? HQ has been pushing Harley/Ivy since the first episode, and I know Kite Man was just a placeholder until Harley and Ivy figured their shit out ...
Not an example.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
I vaguely remember asking in the TRS if you could count an FPC for only a time period (eg. s1 only, then they are official by s3) and I think… the answer… was… yes? I’m not in a position to dig though.
I have seen the show (can't believe I'm going to talk shipping), and Harley/Ivy hooking up is all but inevitable from the very first episode when Ivy breaks Harley out of Arkham. Harley has to first work through her Joker issues, and Kite Man is never anything but a joke, a a douchey bro that Ivy is inexplicably attracted to.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Yeah that is kind of my thing. We do allow historical examples. But in this case the show had been treating them getting together as inevitable while making it clear that Kite man being with Ivy is only temporary.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
So a keyblade from Kingdom Hearts made a brief appearance in the new trailer for the Chip and Dale movie… the trope page has that under Shout-Out, but shouldn’t that be Mythology Gag, since Chip and Dale appeared in KH (which would be a separate continuity from this movie)?
I think it's still a Shout-Out ...? Kingdom Hearts to me is kind of like a massive crossover of IP, and calling a single crossed over element a Mythology Gag feels ... incorrect.
Angry babby
Doesn't the movie trailer include a ton of cameos from just a variety of Disney IPs? The keyblade just feels like one of many Company Cross References.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:24:55 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Yeah it feels more like a Company Cross References to me.
Any other opinions on the Harley Quinn example?
Edited by Bullman on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:15:56 AM
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Angry babby
Consensus seems to agree it doesn't count as the characters (who are famously a couple in various other canons) were set up to be the better couple in the long-term. I don't watch the show but I've heard Kite and Ivy weren't really written as healthy.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
If I do remove it, can I remove it from YMMV.Harley Quinn 2019:
- Fan-Preferred Couple: With Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn being a couple in many comic continuities but never on screen, it was inevitable the ship was more popular than the canon Ivy/Kite Man.
This was also added after I had already removed it due to be canon. Though the OG was from a different troper then the one who added the new one. So, I don't think I can touch without some consensus.
Edited by Bullman on Apr 27th 2022 at 8:58:01 AM
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Go ahead and remove it, everyone here seems to be in agreement that Harley/Ivy is canon and that the example does not fit.
Officially intimidated
Break Up Song sorts examples depending on the nature of the breakup itself. I'm undecided on whether the "Relationship Breakup" folder or the "Please Don't Go [et al]" one would be more appropiate to allocate the song "Don't Turn Around" by Bonnie Tyler. The first verse has her show apparent acceptance over the partner leaving, but the chorus clearly indicates that she's very sorrowful over the relationship's end, with the second verse being a mix of both emotions.
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Apr 27th 2022 at 10:54:44 AM
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"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Okay. I removed it.
If I see a trope being misused on a page, what should I do?
Officially intimidated
Delete it, and explain why in the edit reason.
Since I received no answer to the question I had made, I'll put the example I was consulting onto the second mentioned folder, as I'm leaning towards feeling that the song's chorus having a greater weigh than the verses.
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the Retromancer
Remove or move to a correct trope if you can think of one, giving how the example doesn't match trope description in edit reason.
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Another one for Film.Chip N Dale Rescue Rangers 2022: based on what we’ve seen from the trailers, is it safe to call it a Spiritual Successor to Film.Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
And that shot in the trailer where we saw the Keyblade, Jimmy Neutron’s hair, et all, counts as a Freeze-Frame Bonus, right?
Edited by BigBadShadow22 on Apr 28th 2022 at 9:31:59 AM
Angry babby
Maybe ask the Unreleased Work cleanup to see if it's too early to list?
The Freeze-Frame Bonus is probably okay, but Spiritual Successor definitely is not.
The movie has not come out yet, so we don't know how it will be received at all. Without a finished product will stack up against older works.
I really don't like troping upcoming works, for this reason especially, people seem to feel the need to make all sorts of predictions and speculations about what the finished product will be. There is no need for that, and no need to be first here.
Simply trope what you see in the trailers and other pre-release materials.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
Alright I’ll check with them.
New question regarding WesternAnimation.Minions The Rise Of Gru: Obviously it’s a prequel to the main series and a sequel to Minions, which was itself a prequel… does this movie count as an interquel, or…
Edited by BigBadShadow22 on Apr 28th 2022 at 12:08:07 PM
I don't even think Freeze-Frame Bonus can be said this early on. What if the climax revolves around Jimmy Neutron's hair.
I think Final Boss can be used if it is a work that is video game influenced or its lampshaded.
Say, Ready Player One or Lit-RPG.
There's also tabletop RPG modules. You could refer to the Gold Dragon in Waterdeep: Dragon Heist.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:53:21 AM
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