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Neuchadjinys Since: Jun, 2011
#351: Apr 21st 2012 at 8:40:48 PM

Lucky Dog 1: Explicitly pornographic BL game, again.

Sugar Shooter: Porn Without Plot bara SHMUP with rather young-looking characters.

Shojokyuu Kurige No Shiofuki Shoujotachi: Pornographic Yuri game involving sex between underage ("third year of middle school") girls.

Training with Hinako: A series of exercise videos, interspersed with Fanservice as motivation. Not explicitly pornographic, but apparently consists of literally nothing but fanservice.

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#352: Apr 21st 2012 at 8:45:56 PM

[up][up]I'm talking about the fighting games that bear the Variable Geo title, not the OVA based on those games.

They're pretty different.

That's why I think 5P should look into it, actually, to see where something that sticky falls under the new guidelines.

edited 21st Apr '12 8:47:04 PM by Raidouthe21st

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BlackDove Since: Dec, 2009
#353: Apr 21st 2012 at 8:46:27 PM

Edited for arguing when sleeping should be happening.

edited 21st Apr '12 8:50:19 PM by BlackDove

Neuchadjinys Since: Jun, 2011
#354: Apr 21st 2012 at 8:55:23 PM

Gore Screaming Show: Heavily pornographic (and violent) H-Game. Also I think some characters look pretty childlike, but it should really be looked over even if their ages aren't a problem.

Youju Senki AD 2048: Explicitly pornographic tentacle-monster strategy game.

edited 21st Apr '12 9:01:39 PM by Neuchadjinys

encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#355: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:26:04 PM

[up] Thank you for putting up reasonable petitions (so far.) You're a life saver! I thought my SAN points would go into the negatives.

Ahem, despite the absurdity of some of Glider guy's petitions, I'm leaving them in since someone's bound to find out about it and report it anyways. That person just so happened to be Glider guy. I hate to say it, but I actually do think he's being sincere.

For the record, the -_- faces were courtesy of me. Some other petitions do seem somewhat ridiculous to me, but those two take the bakery.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#356: Apr 21st 2012 at 10:03:52 PM

I believe you should check out FanFic.Sonic In The Search For Love. Basically, it's some really raunchy fanfiction, set in the Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic SatAM universe, that some of the goons at Something Awful found and started narrating aloud, typoes and all.

The actual plot is incredibly threadbare. The focus of the work is blatantly on the sex acts, which are depicted in fairly intimate detail. Characters can be in the middle of an important, time-sensitive mission, but because their partner accidentally touches them in the wrong way they'll immediately drop what they're doing and go down on them, plot be damned (seriously, we're talking heavy doses of Idiot Ball here). This covers some extreme fetishes, too - the author seems to be very fond of urolagnia, for instance.

For that matter, the Sonic characters are underaged. Sonic is only 16 or so, going off of memory (might be 17 as of Sonic Generations, but that's neither here nor there - it's still < 18). And even if they're considered okay for some reason or another, later on in the fanfic*

the Sonic characters wind up in the universe of the furry porn comic School Days... which itself focuses on the lives of elementary school children in various sex acts and states of undress. You can imagine the level we're working with here.

Yes, it was absolutely hilarious to see the Something Awful goons tear into this merely by reading it verbatim. No, I don't think it should be on TV Tropes.

(Forgive me if I'm going about this the wrong way; this is the first time I've even seen this particular forum.)

edited 21st Apr '12 10:04:31 PM by ShadowHog

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AGroupie sick of it all from City of Angelic Devils Since: Oct, 2009
sick of it all
#357: Apr 21st 2012 at 10:16:43 PM

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Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
A pocketful of saudade.
#358: Apr 21st 2012 at 10:37:15 PM

Series like Shuffle are likely to be limited in scope to their Bleached Underpants versions. We may need some special efforts project with people who are familiar with the source materials.

I haven't seen He Is My Master, but it's important to note that many of these harem series are serialised in boys' magazines, meaning people doing the lusting over 14 years olds are 14 years olds themselves. This doesn't mean HIMM will necessarily pass, since I've not seen it, but it's an important thing to have in mind when assessing these works. Otherwise we'll find ourselves in a weird situation where something is sold at Borders (or whatever you have there) but it's banned here.

edited 21st Apr '12 10:40:16 PM by Catalogue

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Infophile Since: Jan, 2001
#359: Apr 21st 2012 at 10:46:02 PM

Strike Witches

Despite the fact that I'm a fan for non-sexual reasons, it's going to be nominated for a look sooner or later, so I might as put it up myself. Problem is sexualization of young girls - copious panty shots, and the DV Ds have gratuitous nudity in around half of the episodes. This covers all main characters, around half of whom are below 16. No underage sex, but it possibly falls under point four of what's being looked for here: "Fanservice intended to cater to pedophiles (lolicon and shotacon count)." It's fanservice, and it includes underage characters, but I'm not sure it's intended to cater to pedophiles. But that's a judgment for P5 to make.

(Note that this series wouldn't qualify as porn alone; it has more than enough plot and action in it to give it another point. It's just the underage characters that present a problem.)

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#360: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:03:05 PM

[up] Note: Strike Witches is in the Military science fiction genre, licensed in the US by funi and you can watch it on Zune and other places with no age restrictions even on an Xbox. (so even microsoft has no problems with the content.) The Artstyle is heavily Puni Plush and the outfits are include bathing suit bottoms (due to the fact that they wear airplane like engines on their feet.).

Ages... Not sure on everyone but the ones stated that I can find are all 16-19.

EDIT: it has aired on TV before on the Funi channel.

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edited 22nd Apr '12 10:09:23 AM by Raso

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#361: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:09:48 PM

Aki Sora - Is this porn? It was banned in Japan, but it could be an innocent work.

encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#362: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:11:27 PM

[up] It's Porn with Plot, but it's a controversial plot. There's some squicky stuff in it even if you disregard the incest. I'm not going to say it out loud unless some one specifically asks.

edited 21st Apr '12 11:14:15 PM by encrypted12345

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#363: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:13:41 PM

In a similar vein to Strike Witches, someone is bound to find Dance In The Vampire Bund eventually. I only got through about half of the first volume of the manga series, but the TV Tropes page mentions the anime adaptation being NSFW, with a link, and there was definitely a fair bit of sexualization/nudity in the half-volume I read of the manga. On the other hand, it's licensed in the US and has seen a release, but I seem to recall it being shrink-wrapped.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#364: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:15:32 PM

@animeg - Aki Sora is no good. It's incest underage porn. Encrypted, you don't have to say anything out loud. I already researched it and it's awful.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#365: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:17:49 PM

It's censored and technically Ecchi has a plot and everyone is in high school.... The plot itself is the issue, it's mainly about an Angsty Incestious romance between a guy, his older sister, his twin sister, the sister's best friend and more. there are other characters like an exhibitionist but the main story is about the family... Yeah.

It was banned in Tokyo because of the Incest plot and sex in school with it lacking an 18+ label... (yes sex in school was a cited reason... And only one tank was banned but the publishers killed the whole series.)

[up] It's not underage anything.... It has other issues....

edited 21st Apr '12 11:24:03 PM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#366: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:20:49 PM

[up] I can confirm that they are in high school, but like Raso said, there are other reasons why this manga would be suspicious.

...There are flat-chested girls at worst. I don't think any girl or boy looks younger than maybe 14.

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Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
A pocketful of saudade.
#367: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:23:52 PM

I'm under the impression that Strike Witches is quite popular and quite rich in its non-sexual aspects, although whether it's more known for the military themes or the lack of pants I do not know.

Should we find it to be unsuitable, that's perhaps one of the definitive grey-area decision I've seen so far, especially if it's sold in mainstream markets. But I don't know much about the series, never read/watched/played(?) any of its releases.

If some fans here want to try to salvage it in case it will be removed, I suggest finding a relatively clean version of it (a comic or something) as a start.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#368: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:33:36 PM

[up] Well the TV version used Censor Steam and beams which was removed in the DVD release, Funi used the DVD version I think. And that is available to buy in the US and the original TV versions were aired on youtube for 10 hours the day the episode aired.

Their ages are old enough (that I can find), there is no sex, hell there isn't even a guy in the series iirc as its part of the famous all girl cast trend that people claim is destroying anime (K On, A Channel etc.)

Just their combat uniforms lack pants.

Anyway big on the if its licensed in the US it should be very much ok for TV Tropes. (although for some reason Sky Girls by the same artist did not get licensed in the US even though the Fanservice is a lot less than Strike Witches... ages are all appropriate too.)

edited 22nd Apr '12 12:58:44 AM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#369: Apr 22nd 2012 at 12:33:49 AM

@encrypted: So the question is whether there's a plot to it. (Haven't read, obviously; no intention to.)

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#370: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:05:28 AM

Have we put Legal Jailbait up for review yet? At the very least, de-creepification is probably in order.

What's precedent ever done for us?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#371: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:06:43 AM

[up]lu127 said that she would keep it clean. I think so at least.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#372: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:09:31 AM

I've kept the damn thing clean for months, ever since it was in TRS. No pedo-gushing.

I'll rewrite the description in a while.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#373: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:46:18 AM

RE Strike Witches: Would it have killed you to specify what action you are asking for? The 5P isn't just about cutting pages; clean-ups, close watchlisting, and locking are well within their options, too.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Jimmmyman10 cannot into space from polan Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
cannot into space
#374: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:20:48 AM

I already posted this in the about thread, but perhaps we should make a rule based on ratings to keep out the ridiculous stuff? For example, only +PG 13 or +R for movies, and only +TV 14 +TVMA for Television? I don't know about other ratings systems, but the genres/things without ratings systems are usually the least mainstream, and therefore least likely to be raged about when someone puts them on the list.

Go play Kentucky Route Zero. Now.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#375: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:22:13 AM

[up]I think that topic is for the content policy thread. Holler for an unlock there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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