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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1351: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:07:46 PM

While cross-wicking, I came across Series.Last Man Standing and spent most of my twenty-minute edit lock session commenting out examples lacking context. I might have missed some because the edit lock expired and I had to save when I wasn't through reading.

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#1352: Aug 9th 2019 at 9:46:34 PM

I just cleaned Brawlhalla. I might have gone a bit overboard, but there was a lot. There were even two uses of natch (that I may or may not have nuked from orbit)!

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#1353: Aug 10th 2019 at 2:00:08 PM

So I just came across a case of someone marking ZCEs on a TLP draft, but leaving the "This Happens" examples, so we definitely need to update that administrivia page.

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#1354: Aug 12th 2019 at 8:53:34 AM

The Undertale example on Exploiting the Fourth Wall is a "this happens a lot" ZCE, but it can't be directly commented out because an example for a separate work refers to it.

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ILikeRobots Aspirant Creativity Wizard from the worlds of my imagination Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#1355: Aug 12th 2019 at 9:54:21 AM

[up] Can you remove the referential bit in the other example? Examples aren't meant to refer to other examples in the first place, and if it’s a totally different and unrelated work, I don’t see why it needs a reference to a different work in the first place.

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#1356: Aug 12th 2019 at 12:34:27 PM

I can barely think of a time Undertale does this. I mean, there's the final boss fight where the game talks about save files and starts Save Scumming, but it's not as severe as the example says.

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#1357: Aug 12th 2019 at 12:36:20 PM

I guess it needs to be re-written entirely then, and the referential part of the other example chopped.

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#1358: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:02:46 PM

Is Older Than Print supposed to be a giant wall of ZCEs?

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Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1359: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:45:13 PM

[up] Are pigs capable of flying? [lol] Call up the matchmakers, 'cause that page needs a lot of dates!

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Aug 12th 2019 at 6:45:53 AM

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#1360: Aug 13th 2019 at 7:50:53 PM

Music is pretty bad.

Edited by DefiantKitsune on Aug 13th 2019 at 7:51:35 AM

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#1361: Aug 13th 2019 at 8:38:06 PM

GAH. I was doing a wick check for Evil Albino and found Sinverse, and it is terrible. Almost everything was a ZCE and all the tropes were bracketed instead of Wiki Worded (except Hair-Trigger Temper for some reason???). I went through it twice to make sure I got everything, but I wouldn't be surprised if I missed something. Could someone else look over it for me?


My wicking adventure continues! Fanfic.Flesh And Blood has tons of ZCEs and even some potholed trope names! Isn't that fun? Anyone wanna look into it?
Edebits is a bit bare. It's fine, I guess, but it could use some more love (and maybe not so stilted language).
I'd do Colorless, but the premise seems interesting enough that I don't wanna spoil myself by marking the page.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Aug 17th 2019 at 3:24:55 PM

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#1362: Aug 15th 2019 at 5:58:04 AM

I cleaned up Black Best Friend by commenting out a large portion of the page.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1363: Aug 16th 2019 at 2:40:18 PM

Hello. I apologize for just entering, I just want to get a second opinion.

I have been trying to add more context to the Phineas and Ferb page, and found this example hidden.

  • Sensitivity Training:
    • In one episode, the Flynn-Fletchers were sailing and Baljeet and Buford were watching over Perry the Platypus for them, which kept him from responding to Major Monogram's call. Monogram commented he couldn't send another animal agent because all of them were doing sensitivity training.
    • In another episode, the agency had a mandatory Animal Sensitive Seminar. Carl said that any animals where excused and could return to their missions, which Monogram found unfair saying that they were picking on the higher species.

I think the second example has enough context, but I don't know if the first one was hidden because the sensitivity training was just an excuse for the plot.

I'm also not sure how to add more context to appearance tropes.

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#1364: Aug 16th 2019 at 2:54:01 PM

That Blue Text makes it seem as though Doofenshmirtz is not sinister and, thus, Not An Example. If that is the case, the entry should be cut. If that is not the case, the example text should be changed to establish that he is, in fact, sinister.

As for the other one, let us assume that I have never seen Phineas and Ferb (which I haven't) and am under the impression that the Lake Nose Monster is a notorious serial killer who, under the guise of a plastic surgeon, kills his rhinoplasty patients before dumping their bodies in the local lake and actually has nothing to do with the Loch Ness Monster. How would you phrase the example text so as to correct my unfortunate misunderstanding?

Edited by HighCrate on Aug 16th 2019 at 2:54:36 AM

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1365: Aug 16th 2019 at 3:05:20 PM

That seems contrived, but I get the point.

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#1366: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:25:43 AM

Hoo boy... Kamen Rider Blade is filled with ZCEs and uses hyphens instead of colons when separating the trope names from the examples. It's also covered in spoiler tags.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Aug 17th 2019 at 3:47:41 PM

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#1367: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:29:53 AM

Oof. Indentation, too.

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#1368: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:30:21 PM

We’ve got a bad one on our hands today, folks. A bad, bad one. A REALLY BAD PAGE.

Kyle The Friendly Pirate has a miniscule description, all the examples consist of only dialogue.... and the subpages are even worse.

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#1369: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:36:35 PM

I say we cutlist them wholesale.

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#1370: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:40:00 PM

The real kicker: as far as I can tell, the work doesn’t exist.

That’s a definite cut.

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#1371: Aug 17th 2019 at 2:01:29 PM

Cut cut cut.

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#1372: Aug 17th 2019 at 2:26:46 PM

If we can't verify the work exists, we have no choice but to cut here.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1373: Aug 17th 2019 at 4:01:00 PM

It's not a bad idea to PM the creator so they can record the data, or remake it in Darth Wiki.

It's not salvageable on its own, but they might not remember everything they want to and the data they can get from the page alone is enough of use.

No qualms about cutting, though.

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#1374: Aug 17th 2019 at 4:42:06 PM

^ The creator hasn't been around for at least two years.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1375: Aug 17th 2019 at 7:27:02 PM

Ah, fair enough.

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