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Theories for Kubera:
Overall Plot
Someone, either Leez or Yuta, is going to use the Sword of Return to open a gate by the end of Season II.
- It's already been stated that the Sword is capable of such a feat, at least in Yuta's hands, and given the presence of a gate between realms in one of the preview images for the season, there is a chance that said gate will be opened using said Sword. Given that Yuta and Leez (and God Kubera) are currently capable of wielding the Sword, they would be the ones most likely to exploit its ability, though for what purpose can range from getting somewhere to bringing in someone from one of the other realms.
Visnu's endgame is a world less reliant on gods.
- We know that after the Cataclysm, both the gods and superior sura found themselves cut off from the human realm, and that magic, which comes from borrowing power from the gods, is not what it once was. Any gods and Nastika are also unable to use their full power in the human realm due to the rules of summoning and the ban on transformations (Gandharva's case notwithstanding). Furthermore, humans were until recently finally learning to cope with a world without gods to guide them.
Recent events however, have seen the return of not only superior sura and gods to the human realm, but also the use of Chaos magic and the continued rise of the associated clan. With the clan of Chaos growing stronger, other sura clans could soon find themselves risking of the fate of the Gandharva clan. In fact, that devastated clan aside, most of the other clans seem to have found themselves heavily weakened since their own respective heydays. What superior sura are in the human realm are for the most part not Nastika, with the actual Nastika present weakened to varying extents, leaving them vulnerable. It is a similar situation with the two Astika currently in the human realm.
Meanwhile, on the human front, things have not quite returned to how they used to be. Due to Agni's relative lack of action, the humans are likely to respond to threats on their own, and the upcoming battle at Rindhallow likely will see the magicians presently on Aeroplateau playing an important part. On a more social note, with discrimination against Halfs rampant, and superior sura mostly absent, in the long-term, Halfs (and perhaps Quarters) should become a smaller proportion of the overall human population.
With humans becoming more proactive, and the presence of the sura clans limited thus far within their realm, it is likely that Visnu foresaw humans moving beyond the gods and magic as it is by necessity, while giving the humans just enough breathing room to adapt accordingly. In addition, the presence of Yuta might spur development of defense mechanisms less reliant on magic, as humans would otherwise find themselves sitting ducks if more Chaos clan members entered the human realm, in turn perhaps inspiring the development of other forms of technology that do not require magic to function.
Perhaps by the end of the series, all this will contribute to a world more similar to our own, where gods and sura are legends from the past, technology works just fine without any sort of applied magic, and humans are forced to brave a universe where their own greatest enemies are themselves.- Seems to be partially confirmed, but with a different god. Saha says that when he received an oracle from Surya, Surya said that he would like humans to be more self-reliant.
Visnu only cares about preserving the universe
- With Visnu revealed to have cruely lied to his "friend" Gandharva, and his callous dismissal of all the people living on Carte, it's not unreasonable to think he may have just be using his insight to manipulate the beings that trust him to accomplish his objectives. Then, look how the gods dislike him as well. They very clearly don't trust him, and during The Finite, Yama calls him out on some of his manipulations.
Gandharva was able to take his sura form in the human realm because...
- ...his transcendentals had been sealed by Takara. For Nastika, taking their sura form is a trascendental. If he had his sura form sealed away by Takara, her death may have unsealed it, bypassing the seal Visnu created.
Gandharva will meet Teo again
- He'll learn she's alive and she'll learn what happened during that month she can't remember.
- Well duh.
Leez will one day wish for her village back
- And the wish will be granted. This guess is based on a few hints early in the story: When god Kubera asked her what she would wish for if a god asked her, Leez jokingly says riches, because "even a god couldn't give her what she really wanted", ie, her village. But if some god, who had reason to feel gratitude, or guilt because they've screwed up her life forever by starting the man-hunt on her name and making sure her dad got killed... Like, say, Vishnu, asked Kubera in all seriousness for what she wanted... Well. When Asha got the opportunity to ask for a wish, she asked for power, instead of her village back, which was something Vishnu commented on. It makes sense from a story perspective, and for Leez, it's the happiest ending. Vishnu did promise that Leez would "grow to be happier than anyone". But even more than that, there is actual foreshadowing: When Lorraine went to Leez' village with her death-count machine, it said zero. No people had died. She assumed it was a mistake, but Vishnu is a god of time. What if, to fulfill Leez' wish in the future, he transports the entire village from the past to the future, right before the attack? Maruna's attack is so destructive, there's no obvious bodies left behind anyway, so he wouldn't notice the difference, nor would anyone else... Except for Lorraine's machine, apparently. What works against this theory, is Leez' dream in chapter 5, where Leez sees everyone from the village, and Leez' mom says "she has no place in her future", unlike Haaz and Kas, who were spared from the attack. Kubera didn't know Haaz and Kas were spared, so clearly the dream was supernatural. We're to presume they died, but "no place in Leez' future" doesn't mean they're dead, just that they're never gonna hang out anymore. Of course, it should leave a bitter feeling, to wish for them back, only to realize she couldn't be with them anyway, but this is Leez we're talking about. Even knowing it won't change anything, she'll wish for it, and will just be happy knowing that they're safe and happy somewhere out there.
The shelved names of Kali...
- We already know some stuff about them already: 1.- That it includes the name of a Nastika, a God and a Human from the ancient human race note and that Kali stole them presumably because she "hates beings that are more powerful than her". 2.-) The Sura shelved name was Raltara's mother and former 2nd in command of the Garuda clan and that it was her the only Garuda clan sura that had a Destruction attribute and because it was too powerful, the primeval gods made her gone and Kali took possession of the them. With this in mind I have a couple theories:
- All of the shelved names are related to the power of destruction and/or chaos (more on that later).
- One of those names was the one she gave Gandharva and the reason he's able to annihilate souls from existence, but he doesn't actually "possess" the name because if he did, his own name would have been shattered a long time ago like it happened to God Kubera and implicitly happened to Kinnara/Airavata and Garuda as well, so whatever process was involved, he has the power of that name, but not the name itself.
- It's likely that whoever was the god or goddess of one of these names was likely something involving or derivative from the Chaos attribute, why? Because when Visnu (Resurrection) and Shiva (Destruction) both disappeared, their aspects were taken over by 2 created gods: Asvisns (Restoration) and Marut (Decay) respectively, as their domain was closely related if less powerful than theirs, to our knowledge there is no god who filled in for Kali's Chaos attribute when she was gone making the birth attribute Nil instead... unless you count Yuta, that's right I believe that Yuta being her "greatest creation" and heavily implied to possess more than one name and way older than what he claims, I believe one of the shelved names is one of a god, that means he would have part of a Sura name, a god's name and who knows maybe he also has a human name.
- The name she offered to Leez was likely the one from a member of the ancient human race, and since we know she would have taken Leez's own name, she probably wanted Ananta's name in exchange.
Who are the "hope" Visnu forsaw...
- Referring specifically to the season 3 episode 165, during the chapter "The Weight of Time" while Ran and Maruna are time-traveling their way back to present!Willarv, we see several characters in the past, in this chapter in particular we see Chandra, Shuri, Garuda and yes, Visnu who has a "nice" talk with Chandra who confronts him on his decisions, and he mentions that he has a "hope" in the far future of people who will bring a better future, this is accompanied by a not-colored panel wit several character seen from their back, (see here
◊) and the prominent one is very obviously Leez wearing the Hide of Bondage, but who are the rest? Here's my theory:- The second most prominent figures after Leez, are Ran and Gandharva, Ran it's at Leez's right and Gandharva at the right, easy to tell because of their hairstyles and clothing.
- After then we can see the back of a ponytail hair and some feather-like fur, this is clearly Maruna, already in his 5th stage.
- The rest of the figures are too small to make out details and pair them up with anyone, but we can see at least 2 more.
Some nastikas are granted fundamental primerval powers.
Ananta (and manasa before him) held mastery of time, and Vritra seemingly holds master of space. It's unclear if this is due to attributes or not, but they both seem to have the nastika version of primerval powers, Vishnu and Kali's time powers in Ananta case and Brahma's control of space for Vritra.Vritra has an Order attribute.
It was revealed Order is an attribute that modern humans do not possess. She mentions it as able to discern true names, and in another case as being able to bend space (though not time). Vritra seemingly instictively calls people by their true name, no matter how well hidden it is, and many of his abilities - transferring to the 0 dimension, instant teleportation, and being able to always return to his nest - have to do with space. Character Specific
Yuta's real name is Kali.
- Kali gave her name to Yuta when he was born. She disappeared soon after because gods' existences are tied to their name. However, Yuta hasn't grown into his name, so Kali magic disappeared with his mother.
- He doesn't have Kali's memory since it was specifically implanted into Taraka.
- There's some support for this. He develops insight and is immune to god barriers, two abilities Suras don't have, but Gods do. He's also seemingly never blocked discussing matters of higher beings, be it created gods or even primervals, something a Rakshasa, no matter how strong, shouldn't be able to do, but a Primerval should.
- Spoiler for raw chapters not officially translated, 298 - The Finite (4): Kali implies it as well. He has chaos powers even though the nastika she became to birth him didn't, meaning she either still had chaos powers when birthin him somehow, or it's due to his own name. He also implies it's harder for her to control his body when he identifies himself with the name Yuta, rather then the name she gave him. This could very well be because the name she gave him is her own, and thus, with her having the stronger ownership of the name Kali, she can manipulate his body if he decides to embrace it.
Tilda is the Kubera in Eloth.
- There's definitely something strange about her - Ran isn't afraid of her despite that fact that she's a Half, and Yuta wants to eat her. She's also the manager of the Eloth magic guild, which is noted as 'unprecedented' because as a Half she isn't capable of using magic. Saha is remarkably unconcerned with finding the Kubera in Eloth, and later mentions that he known who all the remaining Kuberas are. This could all be explained by the fact that she's one of the remaining people named Kubera. Saha wouldn't need to look for the Kubera in Eloth because she's by his side pretty much all the time. Yuta would want to eat her because he can sense her 'potential' as a name holder, and she could be the magic guild manager because as a person named after a god she is closer to the divine than most Halfs.
- Even Lutz finds her suspicious: when she says that there is someone named Kubera in Eloth, he asks her if there's anything more she wants to say.
- Nope. Tilda was a Red Herring that Saha deliberately set up to take the attention off of the actual Kubera in Eloth: Saha himself.
Tilda's real name is Kinnara.
- We already know a certain unnamed human recieved the power of the Kinnara name from the original, through Brahma's spear. We also know God Kubera hid that human in the human realm. Meanwhile, Tilda mysteriously did not lose her memories from the Cataclysm, unlike other halfs. She also made Yuta hungry in her presence, and chaos suras have a tendecy to grow hungry upon sensing targets stronger than them in a weakened state.
- As a nastika, she shouldn't be able to age, and it doesn't seem she's aware of any special powers she has herself. But this could be explained by her human origins, and God Kubera using his psychological transcedentals to make her forget her tragic renaming and make her think she's simply a half. She then might have aged her appearance to fit her supposed age, not realizing it's something she has control over.
Leez will make up the third part of Gandharva's prophesized three boons.
- Visnu stated in the past that Gandharva's name would bring him wondrous love, remarkable happiness, and friendship that transcends races. While Gandharva believed these three things to be Menaka, Shakuntala, and Visnu, it is heavily implied that Gandharva's guesses were erroneous to some extent. While the most popular choice for said friendship is Agni, why not take things a step further? Why not have it so that said third person is actually Leez?
There are two premises to this reasoning, one slightly nuttier than the other. Now granted, this is a really shallow and nonsensical reason for thinking this way, but assuming that Gandharva got the first two right, it is telling that his wife and daughter were both green-haired females. Why break the streak at two when there's a perfectly good candidate who fulfills this set of qualifications?
The second premise is based more around wordplay, and thus slightly less silly. Leez is a human with the Name of an Astika and a possible connection to Ananta. What is this if not a transcending of race in the greatest possible way?- There is one problem with this theory: Gandharva's wife and daughter were not both green-haired. Menaka had navy blue hair.
Leez's divine affinity is 0 due to the Power of the Name.
- Having a divine affinity of 0 is practically unheard of for a pureblood human, but Leez isn't just any human - she has the Name of a god. Gods don't use magic, because magic is defined in this series as "borrowing power from a god", and why would they need to borrow magic from themselves? They just use transcendental skills instead - something that Leez is capable of, having an extremely high transcendental value.
- Jossed. Saha and Laila are also named Kubera and are normal, high ranked, magicians.
Leez's divine affinity is 0, but not her fiendish affinity.
- During Asha's flashback at the end of vol 2, she says: "Since my divine affinity is low, it could be possible that I have high fiendish affinity". She doesn't explore this thought further, because Vishnu tells her it would be a waste of time, but Leez might be capable of it.
Visnu's description of Gandharva's three boons was given in chronological order.
- Visnu often reveals hints of the future through riddles and roundabout descriptions, and his talk with Gandharva was no different. He brought up love, then happiness, and then friendship, in that very order. This is because those three things will or have arrived in that particular order. Assuming that Menaka is indeed that source of "wondrous love," then Shakuntala is indeed the source of "remarkable happiness," leaving one last candidate.
- Taking this a step further, not only is the order chronological, but it also hints at the causal relationship among them. Menaka was the source of love, and this relationship in turn brought about the birth of Shakuntala, who, as the one being capable of loving Gandharva without any agenda or conditions, was the source of his greatest happiness. Menaka's influence and Shakuntala in turn caused Gandharva to mellow considerably, causing Agni, who originally saw Gandharva merely as an enemy, as a potential ally and friend.
- Alternately, Visnu's comments about everything being a matter of what choices are made might actually tie into the hard decisions Gandharva has had to make regarding three particular characters. The first was the time when he was unable to protect Menaka, which was allegedly due to Gandharva being indecisive about some matter. Given that this may have been connected to how Shakuntala was kidnapped by the gods, it could be that Gandharva was placed into the difficult position of choosing between the great love of his life and the child who brought him happiness. Perhaps, as with later on, Gandharva found himself making his decision too late, and while Shakuntala was kept alive, he still lost Menaka, in short, he wound up choosing the source of his happiness over the person he loved romantically. Later on, he is forced into another difficult decision, when he is forced to choose between letting Teo die or giving up on his best chance of getting to Shakuntala. Once again, he is slow to decide, but here, he chooses to save Teo. Perhaps then, his friendship that transcends races might actually be with the potential friend he chose over the source of his happiness.
The Ananta rakshasa accompanying Sagara are her children.
- All of them share a hereditary attribute of "darkness", Sagara's source attribute. Sagara is stated to have had many lovers and children.
- Riagara, who Sagara's shown to be somewhat protective of, might be her daughter with Vasuki. She also has a hereditary attribute of "fire" and lived with Vasuki in Taksaka's nest.
- Pingara has the hereditary attribute of "sky" like Manasvin as well. However, s/he's doesn't look up to Sagara nearly as much.
Asha's behavior
...is a Jerkass facade. To make sure that Ran and Leez don't become too heavily associated with her once she's revealed as a Serial Killer, she started acting meaner just so they would hate her. However, when she killed Saha, her sanity took a nosedive, making her worse than ever.Lorraine is gay
She did once call Agni hot, but that's just stating a fact.- She's engaged (well, was) to a dude, Saha. However, said person is very feminine-looking.
- Word of God states that she's been avoiding said fiance due to this fact (among a few others), as she prefers buff, masculine people. However, it appears that she did love him, but this only comes up after his death. You never know, though- she might be bi, and into Butch Lesbian / The Lad-ette type women.
Rana is wearing cat ears under her hats
At one point, Asha explained that there were nine known god-level items created by Vishnu, and one of the items' outlines shown in black is a hairband with ears. We know that the item Rana is wearing stops aging, and Vishnu is a god of time... And it would indeed be embarrasing to run around in cat ears, as a grown woman. Especially since her husband is deadly scared of halfs. Yeah, the reveal's gonna be hilarious.- Has been since confirmed but with no much drama about it, but there's a much longer story to this in the extra chapters.
Kaz has read the Time Records
We all know that Kaz is a lot smarter than he appears to be and that the way he seemed to successfully use the Eye of Perishment has led people to theorize that he received an oracle from Kali, but what if it goes beyond that? What if he somehow managed to either summon Kali in N5 she showed him the records where it said that Leez was destined to have tragic life and the universe was going to end soon? May even have been the reason the Chaos suras became so active during that year. Other Theories
The Cage of Silence was created by Kali
- It fits with the Anti-Magic properties of the beings and items already associated with her.
