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Wouldn't the Half-Blood Prince The Barrow Attack Plot Hole compliant be in more relation to the fact that the attack showed that the Barrow wouldn't be safe for a wedding to happen in the next film, it was meant to be a shock in the books, but in the films it happened before and apparently no one thought to beef up security.

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• X-Men
  • Storm actually did freak out in the elevator shaft. That's her Big Scene, when she blasts her way free with lightning, and flies for the first time in the film, before delivering the worst line in the movie. But even so, Storm in the comic doesn't have claustrophobic freakouts on the regular either. She struggles with it depending on how severe the confinement is.
    • That line is So Bad It's Good though.
  • One of the most ridiculous examples of this is fans complaining about Juggernaut being a mutant. Never mind his relationship with Xavier being removed. Never mind that his character was poorly used. How he got his powers is more important...even if those powers came from the magical, cursed artifact of a heathen God in the comics. They're wondering why the filmmakers didn't stuff a subplot like that into a movie canon that a) has never mentioned magic or any kind of superhuman powers other than mutation and b) is already staggering under the weight of Loads And Loads Of Characters?
  • Don't even get fans started on the Rogue/Iceman relationship with Gambit nowhere in sight.
  • X-Men: First Class got this and yet ended up being one of the best reviewed films in the entire franchise.
  • 'Origins: Wolverine' had this in spades, starting with their treatment of Deadpool and continuing on to the Canuck badass's totally changed origin story.

• Harry Potter (Word Cruft and Natteriffic words highlighted by bold letters)
  • Let's not forget that they made the longest book the shortest movie and cut out so many parts throughout the series that plenty of plotholes developed that shouldn't have. The complaining is not just senseless (not all of it anyway, the Firebolt thing is a bit petty) complaints, there was plenty of stuff they cut out that had to be cropped back in later because the story wouldn't make sense otherwise.
  • Speaking of Harry Potter, one small group of fans were up in arms over an eye color. Apparently Harry's eyes in the book were green, but Daniel Radcliffe's are blue. This group however looks askance at those few who complain about Hermione's Yule Ball dress being a dusty-pink in the movie when it was described as blue in The Gobbet of Fire as that was only a brief mention & there several instances of someone saying that Harry has his mother's eyes, which apparently were green.
  • Not apparently. They are green, both his eyes and his mothers eyes. It probably wouldn't be such an issue if characters in the book didn't have the habit of saying how his green eyes look just like his mothers green eyes. It's also mentioned (repeatedly!) that while Harry got his looks from his dad, he got his eyes from his mom.
  • Particularly egregious in terms of deviating from the book is the adaptation of 'Half-Blood Prince', which turns normally badass Draco Malfoy into a snivelling pawn who spends two and a half hours opening and closing a cabinet while bawling like an emo bitch. Anyone who's read the book can tell you that, while Draco DOES open and close a cabinet, and he DOES cry in a couple of scenes, for most of the book he is his normal, snide, bullying self, and even makes life difficult for Harry on at least one occasion. In the book it is perceptible that he is struggling with his mixed feelings about Voldemort and the overwhelming pressure of becoming a Death Eater. In the film, he just comes across as an annoying, emotionally weak emo teenager.

• Lord of the Rings:
  • The Scouring of the Shire is something best not brought up in discussion with any fan. Also, a lot of fans will go off on a tirade if you bring up Arwen or Faramir. Or the Elves at Helms Deep. Or...yeah.
    • The scouring is integral to the plot in a way none of the other things mentioned is, though. It pretty much changes the Hobbits as characters and signals a changing of the times.
  • At first a lot of fans were furious that they would not even try to hide Dernhelm's true identity, and the battle against Angmar does lose a whole lot when Dernhelm's identity is known. But it wasn't long before the change was accepted and even seen as necessary. In the book you can hide Dernhelm's true identity (even if it does kind of give Merry the Idiot Ball) but on film it would have been very easy to tell that Dernhelm was actually Éowyn, and most fans agree that it would just have been ridiculous to expect no one to notice. In exchange for Dernhelm's identity being kept a secret, the film makers fleshed out the bond between Merry and Éowyn and depicted their friendship in a way that's true to the books, without having to add it as a separate subplot after the siege of Minas Tirith.
    • Maybe Peter Jackson should have let her wear a pair of glasses as a Take That! to the people who complain about things like that.
  • One hardcore fan of the books wrote an in-depth article on her website complaining about the boats Aragorn stole from the Black Corsairs of Umbar to transport his zombie horde. The complaint was that the ships should have looked like Byzantine galleys and not Chinese junks.
  • Many Tolkien purists continue to whine about Tolkien's "precious" dialogue being altered for the screen. While the poetic language works well enough in the books, it just sounds stilted, unnatural, and excessively formal when spoken aloud, if not downright silly and hammy. Jackson's dialogue makes the characters seem more "real" on film and allows a greater emotional connection with them, which is arguably more important than copying the books word for word, with every last tiny detail included.
    • To compare, take a good look at the 1980s cartoon of Return of the King. Especially the duel between Éowyn and the Witch-King. It's the best scene in the horrific movie, and the lines are 100% to the letter from the book. It feels like you're watching a Shakespearean play (if they had kept it up, the film might have been watchable). Then, watch Jackson's version, which removes 90% of the dialog from that fight, and adequately conveys both the power of the Witch-King and all the emotion of the book without the soliloquies.
  • Foxtrot responded to this trend with a fictional conversation between two main characters and Peter Jackson, in which he said a faithful adaptation would be 40 hours long "and no one wants that, right?" One character's response, some time later: "Figures our mouths would be too full of drool to answer." (Humor notwithstanding, this is a transparent strawman argument.)
    • Dork Tower had Igor arguing with himself, a la Gollum/Sméagol, alternately praising the film and complaining about these points.
  • At least one online fan was seen complaining that Aragorn having a stubbly beard was an outrage because descendants of Númenor don't grow facial hair.
  • This is the instant reaction to the introduction of the possible character of the elf Itaril for The Hobbit film.
    • Of course, studios lie in casting calls to prevent fans and media from finding out details of the production. All the casting call actually says is that they need a female between 15 and 30 able to learn fighting and acrobatics while wearing contacts and a wig, able to portray a previously dedicated character who's life has taken an unexpected turn.
    • The extra scenes with Arwen in general got a lot of hate. Essentially the adaptation took a lot of scenes that were handled by various "one-shot" elves and gave them to Arwen, in an attempt to give her more character development.
  • This site best exemplifies the hatedom some LotR fans have towards the film's various changes. It gets on Jackson for giving Gimli too many axes, for Eru's sake!
  • One of the more decried changes was the character of Aragorn. From a heroic, sensible and self-confident man in the book (just hiding his identity and heritage for a time, so as to avoid interference and possible death by Sauron's minions), to a vaccilating, unsure-of-himself parody in the movies. A man who needs constant reassurance in order to reclaim his birthright.

• Franchise.Batman
  • Don't get anyone started on Batman being a cold-blooded killer in the 1989 and 1992 movies (he dispatches criminals and blows up buildings and such with reckless abandon). Although the early Bat-Man did kill, with a gun. Maybe this trope applies to the standard non-killing Batman.
  • There were some real geniuses who complained when the murderer of Bruce's parents wasn't the Joker in Batman Begins. Sometimes you just can't win.
  • There were also the changes to the character of Ra's al Ghul and the total omission of his daughter Talia. Ra's convoluted (to say the least) backstory would have been very hard to fit into the movie.
    • Corrected in 'Dark Knight Rises' to great effect.
  • Certain fansites had some ongoing - and utterly hilarious - flame wars about whether The Dark Knight was going to suck... based on the fact that the Joker's appearance is from make-up rather than being "permawhite" due to falling into a vat of chemicals.
  • There has been some backlash over the casting of Tom Hardy as Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, with some people upset that a white Englishman is playing a Latino supervillain. And if the rumors are true and Marion Cotillard is playing Chinese-Arabic villainess Talia al Ghul, that just compounds the problem....
  • Such backlash over casting dates back to the very beginning of Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, with various internet types appalled that the Japanese actor Ken Watanabe had been cast as the vaguely Arabic Ra's al Ghul. Interestingly, those angry cries were almost completely forgotten when it turned out that the Irish actor Liam Neeson was playing the true Ra's al Ghul...
  • Some fans were absolutely outraged that Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy ends with Bruce Wayne retiring from the role of Batman, passing the responsibility on to a younger hero while Bruce himself rides off into the sunset, living happily ever after in Europe with Selina Kyle/Catwoman.
  • And that's not getting into Alfred walking out on Bruce when he feels the obsession with being Batman will lead to his self-destruction - even though Alfred actually did do that once in the comics.

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