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openDated language in an example, period-appropriate to the time portrayed. (Resolved)
I ran across this example while working on a TLP - the examples were mined from another page.
- Series.The X Files: (Fainting in Shock is) Played for laughs in 1947 Roswell in "The Unnatural." Dales, the cop protagonist, sees Exley's true alien form (He's been posing as a Negro baseball player) for the first time. The alien keeps trying to wake him up to explain things, but as soon as the cop does so he passes out again. And again. And again.
I'm aware of recent discussion on Trope Talk to the effect that some tropes maintain dated language in their titles because the specific connotations of that language are part of what the trope is about.
What about here? I don't want to whitewash the time period, or bury the existence of Negro League Baseball, but I don't think this is a direct quote from the episode either.
What's the most appropriate way to phrase this? I've not seen this episode... is the character's (assumed) ethnicity relevant? I'm kind of guessing that it might be... someone treated as "Other" turns out to be much more other than first thought...
EDIT: I think I was getting too much tunnel vision due to alphabetizing
Edited by underCoverSailsmanopenNo Title
Edit: maybe my title was too long? thestormtrooper is who I am referring to.
I've tried to help him identify his book to the best of my ability, but even after I tried to explain to him that sometimes people just don't have an answer, and to put it from his mind and not stress over it, he constantly brings up that nobody responds to his queries and that it is unfair, because other people get responses.
It's to the point where he is using other scifi YKTS queries to complain https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=97713&type=ykts
I've tried to be supportive and help him on his posts, but at this point it's just getting really depressing to click on a YKTS query and see him sadposting about nobody replying to him. Nobody has an OBLIGATION to answer his queries, and he needs to realize that instead of flooding the site with complaints.
Edit again: flooding may be too strong of a word, but if I see more complaining on YKTS queries about nobody answering him i'm just going to link it on this post.
Edited by BeanWigginopenSimilar questions about the definitions of tropes
While I'm asking about two tropes, the questions involved are similar:
- Does Lonely Rich Kid mean "a lonely child from a rich family" or "a child is lonesome because of affluence"?
- Does Sheltered Aristocrat mean "a sheltered person of aristocratic birth", or "a person, because of their aristocratic birth, is sheltered"?
Using Lonely Rich Kid as an example: the writeup is unclear whether there must require a relationship between affluence and loneliness. The Playing With page thinks the two need not be related, but to me, that would make it sound very Chairs-y, or fell into False Cause.
openAbout the something taking place in a multiverse
Hello, I hope this is good question to ask, and that can likely help me. But how can I be able to at least ask someone about an animated show, video-game, or live-action show taking place in the same universe?
Because I tried to sometime at least ask creator if any show takes place in the same universe.
openAre we allowed to link to fan translations
I decided to clean up a No Export for You entry for Valkyria Chronicles III for being complainy, but I'm not too sure about leaving links to fan translations. Don't we typically don't allow that?
The entry in question:
- Unfortunately Valkyria Chronicles III will never see the light outside Japan as a PSP game. This is mainly due to Sega's decision shoot itself in the foot by making the sequel a PSP game instead of a PS3 game like the original. The original sold better in the West than in Japan (due in part to the PS3's international popularity), but since the PSP was thriving in Japan but dying in the West, the game sold poorly outside of the Japanese market. Poor foreign sales led to Sega deciding not to export Valkyria Chronicles 3. Thankfully, the PSP's region-free nature makes it easy to import the game, and an English patch is available here http://vc3translationproject.wordpress.com/about/
openAbout Real Life Example Restrictions?
Been thinking about this for a while - what's the difference between In-Universe Examples Only and No Real Life Examples, Please? I thought they might've been one and the same, but now I'm starting to doubt that.
Edited by JHDopenAction Taimanin clean up Videogame
Is there any way we can un-delete the Action Taimanin pages and preform a clean-up on them by removing and/or fully altering all the plagiarized content that got them deleted in the first place?
openIs there an Alternative Character Interpretation cleanup?
Title is self-explanatory but I'll explain anyway. Alternative Character Interpretation an item that is very susceptible to shoehorning, and often attracts exaggeration along the lines of Ron the Death Eater and Draco in Leather Pants. One page that reeks of this is AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.Bo Jack Horseman, which was created by a troper who had a problem with complaining and has a lot of rambling about interpretations I've never heard from any other fan of the show. Is there a cleanup thread to discuss certain examples that might be too farfetched to make sense, are the opinion of a single fan, etc?
Edited by mightymewtronopenIs there a shout-out cleanup?
I've lately been seeing a LOT of shoehorning for Shout-Out, whether it be finding tenuous connections between two franchises, or just plain Fan Myopia. However, I couldn't find any cleanup threads on the forums, despite it being such a popular trope.
Is there a cleanup thread for Shout-Out, and if not, do I have permission to start one?
openPossible Ban-Evader
I noticed this rather large complainy nattery edit on Sequelitis added by paxbisonica and it looked rather familiar.
So I looked through their recent edits and noticed they seem to be making numerous large edits on both quote pages and a lot video games.
I think it might be Johnnyfog ban-evading again.
openSomeone deleted my WMG, what now?-SOLVED Webcomic
I just came back to a WMG page I had written in to find that someone had outright deleted my entry because "Word of God disproves this theory." If I'm not mistaken, the entire point of "WMG" is that they're supposed to be left-field fan theories/headcanons. I am also aware that just putting back something somebody else deleted for a justified reason is a banable offense. What do I do in this situation?
Edited by dvorakopenMissing Franchise Syndrome?
I don't know if this is really a problem, but I've noticed a few pages that look like they combine works in several different mediums because they're based on the same property. The three examples below are where I noticed this the most:
- Harry and His Bucket Full of Dinosaurs: A series of books that later got an Animated Adaptation. The page is in the Literature/ namespace, but most of the on-page examples refer exclusively to the adaptation. WesternAnimation.Harry And His Bucket Full Of Dinosaurs only redirects to the Literature page.
- The Odd Couple: A play that has been adapted into a movie (which later got a sequel), and four different TV series. Breaking it down further:
- Both the film and its sequel have their own pages (potholed above)
- One of the TV adaptations was the animated show The Oddball Couple which also has its own page
- Another TV adaptation (The New Odd Couple, from 1982) doesn't even have a page
- This leaves two other TV adaptations, one from 1970 and the other from 2015. The page for whole franchise is on the Theatre/ namespace, but most of the examples on the Theatre/ page refer to the 1970 adaptation.
- We do have Series.The Odd Couple, but it refers exclusively to the 2015 series. Series.The Odd Couple 2015 redirects to the Series/ page, but Series.The Odd Couple 1970 redirects to the Theatre/ page.
- Pippi Longstocking: Another series of books that's been adapted into two different films, a live-action TV series, and an animated movie that was spun off into a TV series. None of these have their own pages, and the examples on the Literature/ page are partly made up of examples from each adaptation and the franchise in general.
I feel like something could be done about this (namely giving the latter two Franchise/ pages) but I don't know if anyone else sees this as a problem.
openDueling Works TRS
This needs full attention. The table format for the Dueling Works subpages has formatting issues in both desktop and mobile. Also a criteria is needed. Thread HERE
Edited by alnair20aug93openEdit War on YMMV page for RWBY Recap V8E10 Ultimatum
On the YMMV page for RWBY V8 E10 "Ultimatum", there's an edit war developing regarding whether or not a certain event in an Ass Pull or not, and it's getting filled up with nattery edits that are poorly disguised counter-arguments.
I've been trying to clean it up, and I removed it a couple of days ago because I didn't think it fit the trope, only to have it re-added almost verbatim with no explanation. Since then I tried cleaning up some factual errors but they keep being re-added.
openTropes from the Outriders demo deleted Videogame
Several entries on the Outriders page were deleted - not just commented out, deleted, despite being based on the content of the demo, and demo, according to the developers stating as such numerous times, is the game's first chapter story-wise.
There was no communication regarding those deletions, and I'm not even sure whether the user who did it did so in any official capacity.
open ReedRichardsIsUseless misuse?
- Retroactively happens in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic during the events of The Cutie Re-Mark when Twilight Sparkle and Spike both travel into the "Changeling Resistance Timeline" where they enter an Equestria where Chrysalis was never defeated. Both come across a La Résistance led by Zecora who has with her a Salve that is designed to forcibly strip a Changeling of their disguise when applied, and the two of them never bothered to ask Zecora for a jar to take back to reverse-engineer, or a list of ingredients to help make some back in the main timeline, or even ask their own Zecora if it was possible to make it themselves. This ended up biting them in the ass when The Mane Six, Spike, The Royal Sisters, Cadence, Shining Armor, and Flurry Heart all get captured by the main timelines' Queen Chrysalis and replaced by Changelings two seasons later.
This was added by Ohvist, which I removed citing Twilight had a spell to remove changeling disguises meaning it would be unnecessary/not enough to prevent what happened. Ohvist added it back with the addition of "While it was shown that Twilight could dispell a disguised Changeling by herself without the salve back in the events of A Canterlot Wedding, it was only because she knew they were possible Changelings, and not every Unicorn would know how to master the spell, and it still leaves the Pegasi and Earth Ponies vulnerable since they cannot cast spells to begin with."
I still think it's misuse as Reed Richards Is Useless is about not using fantastical things for other mundane problems, this is not using the fantastical thing for the fantastical problem it was originally meant for. There's also a whole lot of speculation or debatability with it (the salve would only be useful if one suspected one of being a changeling which wouldn't have avoided this as they figured it out on their own and the plot was rescuing them, we don't know how they were captured in the first place or any limitations of the salve, maybe Zecora couldn't develop the salve without changeling magic to practice with) I'm not sure if it's valid to move to another trope like Forgotten Phlebotinum. Should this be cut and/or moved to Head Scratchers?
openI have three questions
1.How can I make, create, or do a trope?
2.How can I add a recap episode in
3.How can I be responsible on TV Tropes?
open Dreams & Nightmares
If a work contains both normal dream sequences and nightmare sequences, is it okay to list them together on the work's page under the trope Dream Sequence? A nightmare is just a type of dream, and there's overlap in their narrative purposes (i.e. a dream sequence and nightmare sequence can reveal the same things about a character).
What is up with City People Eat Sushi other than city people liking sushi and raw fish? I beg to differ on that. I'm from a rural coastal area, and I like sushi, and have a modest liking for well-prepared raw fish.
So, what really is this trope that only has 19 wicks and a thousand inbound links?