Fixing a long list of PSOC articles

Okay Madrugada, maybe I can do it with Food and Animal Attraction.

1. The recurring pattern is: A character hides food in his clothes, only for the smell of the food to attract an animal.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That hiding food is a terrible idea for a comedic purpose.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Recognizing that sometimes people don't have any common sense.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and animated shows.
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Squirrels in My Pants and Stock Animal Diet.

edited 28th Mar '15 12:31:05 PM by CaveCat

Ok, that's the questions. Now use them to write what would be on the trope page. Give us the write-up itself.

Well, the description does mention about hiding food being a bad idea, as well as it being used in comedies, but it doesn't say anything about people lacking common sense, so maybe you do have a point. Here's the write-up:

"Sometimes, animals will become attracted to you if you have food with you. However, one thing that you should never do with food is hide it in your clothes. Because, while the food may be hidden, the smell will attract the animal that likes the food, which can lead to an embarrassing situation in some cases, such as getting past a drug-smelling dog at an airport. The character that hides the food in his clothes may lack common sense, sometimes bordering on Too Dumb to Live. Expect this trope to show up in comedies and animated shows.

In most cases this trope is what causes Squirrels in My Pants. Often crosses over with Stock Animal Diet, since the hidden food will generally be the stereotypical one for the animal attracted."

edited 28th Mar '15 2:31:36 PM by CaveCat

I don't feel that write-up is sufficient to explain the trope for the following reasons:

1. It is written in second-person.
2. It doesn't explain the Hidden Information (which I'm not sure you've quite got, as your definition is 'hiding food is not funny').
3. It assumes the only way this may happen is stupidity on the part of the character hiding it.

1. If by second-person, you mean switching from using 'you' to 'the character'.
2. That's not true! I said that hiding food in your clothes being a terrible idea is meant for a comedic purpose, not the other way around.
3. In a way, that is the reason why the character ends up getting marauded by animals when he hides food in his clothes.

Never mind, Crazysamaritan, you were right. I realized that I worded number two very poorly. I can try again if you want:

1. The recurring pattern is: A character hides food in his clothes, only for the smell of the food to attract an animal.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That hiding food is meant for a comedic purpose.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Recognizing that sometimes people don't have any common sense.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and animated shows.
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Squirrels in My Pants and Stock Animal Diet.

1. No, I mean Second-Person Narration. It is considered atypical. The switching midway is a separate issue that should resolve if ~Cave Cat does not use Second-Person Narration in her descriptions.
2. Better, but not good.
3. Then if Alice hides a steak in Bob's pants, is that a different trope? If it isn't a different trope, it isn't because Bob was stupid (he didn't put the steak there).

edited 29th Mar '15 4:17:36 PM by crazysamaritan

Hmmmmmm, good point, then I'd better try again.

1. The recurring pattern is: A character hides food in his clothes, only for the smell of the food to attract an animal.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That it's not a good idea to have food hidden on your person.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Recognizing that sometimes people don't have any common sense or that other people just like to joke around.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and animated shows.
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Squirrels in My Pants and Stock Animal Diet.

edited 29th Mar '15 4:48:41 PM by CaveCat

Doing a rewrite of the questions here for Food and Animal Attraction.

1. The recurring pattern is: A character hides food in his clothes, only for the smell of the food to attract an animal.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That it's not a good idea to have food hidden on your person.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Knowing that people either don't have any common sense or just like to joke around.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and animated shows.
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Squirrels in My Pants and Stock Animal Diet.

How's that now?

That's the answers to the questions, not the form it needs to be on the wiki page. That's what we're asking for when we talk about "the write-up" — the actual paragraphs you would put on the wiki page.

Madrugada, the only reason I did a rewrite of the questions is because the third question needed some serious tweaking. So, here's the write-up now:

"Sometimes, animals will become attracted to people that have food. However, one thing never to do with food is hide it in your clothes. Because, while the food may be hidden, the smell will attract the animal that likes the food, which can lead to an embarrassing situation in some cases, such as getting past a drug-smelling dog at an airport. The character that hides the food in his clothes may lack common sense, sometimes bordering on Too Dumb to Live, or another character is The Prankster who thinks it would be funny to hide food in the first character's clothes without them knowing. Expect this trope to show up in comedies and animated shows.

In most cases this trope is what causes Squirrels in My Pants. Often crosses over with Stock Animal Diet, since the hidden food will generally be the stereotypical one for the animal attracted."

edited 21st Apr '15 4:21:58 PM by CaveCat

That's a lot better. It's still not up to the quality we want for a new wiki page, but it's much better. You're getting there.

Now that you're getting the idea of what needs to be included, I'm going to add something else: format.

A trope page should start off with a clear statement of what the trope is. In the case of Food and Animal Attraction, the trope is "A character has some sort of food in their clothing or on their person. It attracts an animal or animals, to the misfortune of the character." That, or something like it, should be your first paragraph.

edited 22nd Apr '15 10:08:05 AM by Madrugada

Good point, Madrugada.

"A character has some sort of food hidden in their clothing or on their person. It ends up attracting an animal or animals, much to the misfortune of the character. This can lead to an embarrassing situation in some cases, such as getting past a drug-smelling dog at an airport. The character that hides the food in his clothes may lack common sense, sometimes bordering on Too Dumb to Live, or another character is The Prankster who thinks it would be funny to hide food in the first character's clothes without them knowing. Expect this trope to show up in comedies and animated shows.

In most cases this trope is what causes Squirrels in My Pants. Often crosses over with Stock Animal Diet, since the hidden food will generally be the stereotypical one for the animal attracted."

How's that now?

edited 22nd Apr '15 2:29:19 PM by CaveCat

Hello?

Yes, Better

You're going to hate me for this: Now, can you do it without any coaching? Pick another one you haven't worked on yet and go through the steps, all the way to the final write-up.

At once, Madrugada! Maybe I can do it with The Handicapped and the Helper. Here are the questions:

1. The recurring pattern is: A character serves as a helper to another character with a disability.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That people with handicaps and disabilities can't do everything by themselves and that they need help.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Knowing that it's good to help those who can't always help themselves.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Internal Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Dramas or even buddy comedies
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: The Caretaker, Handy Helper, Cloudcuckoolander's Minder.

edited 11th May '15 3:34:23 PM by CaveCat

Now I need to add the write-up for it:

"You have a character who is inflicted with a disability. They can be blind, deaf, mute, or lack the ability to walk. This character is what's known as the Handicapped. That's where the Helper comes in, a kind and helpful mentor who helps the Handicapped overcome his disability. Sometimes, the Helper will have the same disability as that of the Handicapped.

This trope will sometimes serve as An Aesop about how people with disabilities can't always do everything by themselves, so they need a caretaker to help them out. It may sometimes be spoofed if the Helper tries to help the Handicapped, only to discover that the Handicapped can do it by himself without much trouble, or that the Handicapped has actually been Obfuscating Disability and does not have a handicap at all.

Compare: The Caretaker, Handy Helper, Cloudcuckoolander's Minder.

See also Translator Buddy for The Unintelligible."

I hope that's good enough.

edited 11th May '15 4:43:52 PM by CaveCat

I suppose now I can do it with Knew It All Along. Here are the questions:

1. The recurring pattern is: A character pretends to know about a pivotal detail, after not knowing what's going on.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: To show that people sometimes don't understand what's going on so pretend to know about it.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Knowing that people are too prideful to admit that they were scared or wrong.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and mysteries
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: I Meant to Do That, Glad I Thought of It

Now for the write-up for Knew It All Along:

"A lot of times in life, lots of people jump to conclusions about certain kinds of things. After a little bit of misunderstanding, once a character finds out what's really going on, he will then proclaim rather blatantly that he knew it all along. This is something that you can expect a Large Ham, a Small Name, Big Ego, an Idiot Hero, or a Miles Gloriosus to do.

See also I Meant to Do That and Glad I Thought of It. For when people actually knew it all along, see Everybody Knew Already.

Not to be confused with I Knew It!, an Audience Reaction."

Now for Mocking Sing-Song:

1. The recurring pattern is: A character teases another by singing in a mocking matter to the tune of "Ring Around The Rosie".
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That a character is immature enough to tease another in a sing-song matter.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Recognizing that some people are immature enough to make fun of others.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: Genre Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Comedies and animated shows
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Blowing a Raspberry, Kissing In A Tree

Now for the write-up for Mocking Sing-Song, taking out the Exactly What It Says on the Tin:

"When one character is trying to think of a Freudian Excuse or has experienced a humiliating incident, or is just minding his own business, another character will immediately mock him to the tune of "Ring Around The Rosie".

There also seems to be a recurring taunt in fiction, where a character puts both hands to the side of their face, with their thumbs at their cheeks, then wiggle their fingers and go "Nana Na Nana Na" to the same tune.

It seems this trope is done mostly by immature characters.

Also a rather common playground thing in Real Life in some places as well.

Will occasionally overlap with: Blowing a Raspberry. For musically mocking a character about a relationship or crush, see Kissing In A Tree."

Now for the questions for Recognizable by Sound:

1. The recurring pattern is: A character recognizes the voice of his friend or the sound of an object that he knows all too well.
2. Creators use that pattern to present this hidden information: That people are able to recognize their friends by the sound of their voice.
3. Audiences connect this hidden information to Real Life by: Recognizing that a lot of people have great recognization abilities.
4. The consistency of the hidden information is: External Consistency
5. The hidden information is needed in: Dramas and adventure films.
6. The information hidden in the recurring pattern is similar to: Signature Sound Effect, Signature Roar, Sound-Coded for Your Convenience.

Now for the write-up for Recognizable by Sound:

"A lot of people have great recognition abilities, which means that they are able to recognize the sounds of various items or even the tone of the voice of their friends. This can even come in handy when a character is separated from his friend and when he hears the voice of his friend, he will say "I know that voice!" The result will prove victorious in the end afterwards.

Compare: Signature Sound Effect, Signature Roar

Compare/Contrast: Sound-Coded for Your Convenience"

edited 1st Jun '15 9:07:58 AM by CaveCat

Cave Cat was banned recently, so what do we do now? Cut everything or lock up where she left off?

Still repair the broken tropes.