@Music:Starting to warm up to Man in the Box as a concept, deliberating on just where I might go with it...
WAIT. I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING FOR GENDO. Now to decide on what kind of mysterious powers it might have....
Hrm. I'd really like to reveal things like Stands and such in-story, but until I decide on a proper plot, I may just do assorted snippets (for the sake of having them shown rather than told at you) and then decide whether they're proper "canon" or not later on.
I'd probably have it put Shinji in a "box" of AT Field-like barriers. At first he'd probably see it as just another weapon on his shoulders until, I don't know, he realizes he can use it to protect people. Plus the song pretty much sums up how Shinji's life treats him and how he sees himself.
Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the GreatDio Brando and Kars didn't although the Stand concept wasn't a thing yet, nor did Kira Yoshikage initially. I'm still a little befuzzled on the mechanics of how Killer Queen's Another One Bites The Dust actually works...
I considered something like that, but then it started to feel a little too bog-standard Barrier Warrior. Even if we go to the conceptual level and say that he can "box himself in" away from anyone else's reach via a Dirac Sea or similar.... Yeah, I think I'll keep ruminating on Shinji.
If you can think of a more fitting power, or one that his personality would give him, I'd like to hear it.
Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the GreatWell, I was contemplating - possibly influenced by what I was listening to at the time - perhaps Shinji has a Stand that operates (mostly) independently of his conscious mind, and can do nothing but mindlessly attack its target, something akin to Kira Yoshikage's Sheer Heart Attack.
But instead of targeting the object with the highest temperature and exploding at it, perhaps Shinji's Stand would instead target (based on concepts shown in Parts 4 and 6) whatever person that Shinji currently has "accused", or "assigned guilt/blame to". Up to and including Shinji himself, from time to time.
I had this idea, partly from reflecting on Shinji's sometimes passive-aggressive nature.
Again, the Stand would operate partly based on Shinji's subconscious feelings, so at least initially, the primary method of stopping its attack would be to distract Shinji from his guilt (or guilt-slinging, as the case may be). Like a monster that randomly comes out of nowhere to try and kill him when he starts angsting, and goes back into nowhere when he's sufficiently paralyzed with terror.
Absolutely none of this is related to the fact that I'd think it kind of cool to have end-of-series Shinji point at someone and say "I accuse" as a Pre-Asskicking One-Liner to summon his Stand and set it loose on his opponent.
The biggest problem with such a concept, though, is that I just know I'd have trouble staying consistent on Shinji's ability to control or influence the Stand, or even on the rules it works on.
EDIT: For the record, the "Geass retool" I mentioned earlier up? That would've been the ability to ability to sense others' feelings and detect emotional energies within a certain radius, as well as draining or overloading people of/with certain emotions. Probably would've called it "Radar Love", and over the course of the story, Shinji would've come to realize some Unfortunate Implications of having that particular powerset. Could've led to some interesting drama with Shinji being uncertain about how much of his interpersonal relationships are "real" or not, but I'm not sure that I could pull it off here. That particular concept feels more appropriate for that PMMM crossover I continue to very noticeably not work on.
edited 15th Sep '14 9:51:38 PM by EvaUnit01
From what I know about it, Kira essentially uses his Stand to repeat time so that his explosions last for a pretty long time until he figures out who the Stand killed.
Probably an apt enough description, I'm just thinking that I don't quite recall him explaining how his power worked the way Diavolo explained the powers of his King Crimson.
What do you guys think of Asuka's analysis of what she thinks Shinji needs in a girlfriend/wife here (near the end of the chapter)?
And of course, she is in denial of the fact that she's developing feelings for him.
Sadly, it's a Dead Fic.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I liked that fic, as much as there was of it.
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.So the analysis is plausible?
edited 18th Sep '14 5:16:49 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.An idea for your perusal.
At first glance, she looks like the kind and friendly girlfriend material Eva shouldn't rightly have, except for her occasional bouts of violence towards Toji. But in true Eva fashion, things aren't what they seem: Toji eventually has a heart-to-heart with Shinji and reveals that after their mother died, Sakura became a violently antisocial problem child who constantly got into fights and on one occasion, beat up Toji so badly he had to be hospitalized. That incident is what made her realize how much of a rotten apple she had become and since then, she had been trying to reform but her violent side still slips to the surface from time to time. Toji is telling this to Shinji not to drive him away from her but quite the opposite: he wants Shinji to understand that Sakura is trying very hard and since they became friends, Toji can see how much Shinji dislikes himself and hopes that he will be inspired by Sakura's example and try to change himself for the better.
edited 18th Sep '14 5:52:17 AM by amitakartok
Sooooooo, any remarks on my previous post regarding Shinji's potential abilities?
Does that sound appropriate to anyone?
edited 18th Sep '14 6:40:34 AM by EvaUnit01
@ Marq, analysis: Well, I agree with it because, from what I remember, it was more of a justification than a genuine analysis. There were parts that I've found objectively accurate anyway, but I'll have to re-read that part to remember them.
EDIT: Argh, analysis, not analisys!
edited 18th Sep '14 10:41:56 AM by TheNobody
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.Something that popped into my head while playing DWG 2.
Eva story, same setting, same rules - but no canon characters.
Two rules. First, all-OC cast. Second, NERV is a Nergal-esque megacorp whose primary interest in preventing Third Impact is because it would kill their customers. Thus, Hilarity Ensues should be the primary tone - including the AdEva scenario involving the pilots starring in a commercial.
As for the cast, I have ideas for a Kyon-esque "wiseguy" protag, a (not quitenote ) Plucky Girl who gets way too overeager about things and frequently doesn't watch where she's running, and a guy who acts normally... except for the fact that he never speaks, preferring to point and handsign instead (which really creeps the protag out). Oh, and the megacorp that owns the Evas is headed by the protag's (not quite) Bumbling Dad.
Some of the humor would come from SEELE trying and failing to make the kids fall into despair as per the Evil Plan(TM). Mostly because after a while, a Flat "What" is all the protagonist has to say about all the random shit that keeps happening.
Anyone has character ideas for the various roles? Remember: this is for fun, not drama.
edited 18th Sep '14 3:41:35 PM by amitakartok
Operations Director: A grumpy old guy who would rather spend his retirement playing strategy games than babysitting some kids and their fancy-shmancy new technologies; and he doesn't forget to remind everyone about that at least once per episode. Might or might not be a Retired Badass and/or actually care about the pilots more than he lets on.
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.Sounds good. Maybe he's ex-PMC?
Amitakartok: That works, too. I was thinking about somebody with more public recognition... But a PMC can be well-known too.
Marq: Wait, you're not talking about the "Shinji needs a girlfriend for these and these reasons, and obviously I'm the best choise" from Asuka's POV? I might need to read the fanfic again.
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.No, Asuka in that fic is genuinely trying to be Shinji's friend and to look for a good girlfriend for him to boost his abysmal self-esteem and generally improve his personality, and tries to convince herself that while she obviously is the perfect fit for what she believes is what a Shrinking Violet like Shinji needs in a girlfriend (which, IMHO, is a rather plausible analysis), she can't because she has Kaji (Yeah, right).
An important aspect of the two pilots' relationship here is that Asuka 1) recognizes Shinji's good points (his polite and considerate personality compared to their other male peers, for one), which is part of what starts them on a good footing rather than the bad first impressions they had in canon, and 2) at one point, she overhears an argument between Shinji and his two male friends that seemingly has him side with the two against her, much to her fury... only for Shinji to keep talking before Asuka gets a chance to interrupt the argument, and hearing what else he had to say lets her revise her opinion about him and see his criticism of herself in a less negative light.
Yes, this Asuka is shown the benefit of hearing the other person out. Let's hope the lesson sticks.
edited 19th Sep '14 8:22:19 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.He's a former Korean Starcraft player. PMC is predictable and boring.
re: Asuka: Well, we have a counterpoint in...basically the whole original show, which if ever there was a situation that would constantly challenge Shinji to be better...
Nous restons ici.And I thought the story already pointed out that its whole plot hinges on having a small, seemingly insignificant tweak to Asuka's personality have a lot bigger after-effects than one would think. Like I said, it all starts from a divergence in how their first meeting on the aircraft carrier went.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Because she thought she should be better than him. She couldn't deal with the fact that this kid with no training, who didn't even want to BE a pilot, managed to constantly outperform her.
Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great—>The Point—>
—>Your heads<—
Asuka's manifestly wrong about what Shinji needs to become a better person, because he's already being continually challenged on that front. Therefore, at best, Shinji will be neutrally affected by her in both a personal and a romantic sense. It's far more likely, given the setting, that her effects will be negative.
You can tweak until you run through the world's supply of meth, as long as she thinks that's what Shinji needs, she's a problem, not a solution.
edited 19th Sep '14 12:11:45 PM by Night
Nous restons ici.
I read that as Shard for a second and realised somthing...
Neon Genesis Wormvangelion.
It almost works too.
Wait. What. I typo'd and accidentally created a second profile? Fix it.