YMMV / Predator
Works in this franchise with their own YMMV pages:
- Alternative Character Interpretation: The Predator species is subjected to a large amount of this due to the fact there is little information on them. Are they thrill seeking beings hunting for honor or are they a bunch of evil assholes who hunt humans for giggles?
- Later movies make it clear that the traditional predators are the first, whereas the "Killers" from Predators are the second.
- Manly Guys Doing Manly Thingshas this exchange while watching the movie:
Jonesy: So why's this guy clicking to himself all the time? Is he just talking to himself the entire movie?
Commander Badass: He's actually droppin' some pretty good one-liners. Just told Jesse Ventura he's about to get a "hole" lot of free time.
Jonesy: Huh, I'm surprised puns translate that well.
Commander Badass: It's a surprisin'ly compatable language. Prob'ly part'a what made the Yautja some of our biggest trade partners.
- Awesome Music: Alan Silvestri is on point for the first two movies (so much so that John Debney's score for Predators is essentially an adaptation of Silvestri's work).
- Complete Monster: From the comic Bad Blood, we have the eponymous Bad Blood himself. Unlike most Predators, or Yautja, who value honor and the glory of the hunt, the Bad Blood is an Ax-Crazy Serial Killer hunted by his own people as a psychotic criminal. After crash-landing on Earth, the Bad Blood kills, tortures, and cannibalizes an entire crew of other Predators before setting off on a killing spree of unsuspecting humans. The Bad Blood routinely makes his kills as gruesome and painful as possible, seeming to cheerfully acknowledge himself as a "sick, psychopathic bastard." While most Predators are no friend to humanity, the Bad Blood has the distinction of being a monster by both human and Yautja standards.
- Contested Sequel: Many fans aren't able to agree on whether Predator 2 or Predators is the better sequel.
- Evil Is Cool: Given its bizarre weapons and technology and the unique design from Stan Winston, the Predator inevitably fell to this.
- Friendly Fandoms:
- While it may be due to the crossover between the two, both the Alien and Predator series have overlap thanks to both being 80's sci-fi horror series revolving around monsters, in addition to sharing numerous creators and actors between the two such as special effects by Stan Winston, James Cameron having input and actors such as Bill Paxton and Lance Henriksen.
- Terminator has an overlap in interest with the series, owing to also being a violent 80's sci-fi series sharing numerous creators and actors with the Predator films, particularly Arnold Schwarzenegger.
- Rooting for the Empire: Possibly invoked, as most of the humans are inefficient or weak in comparison to the Predator, especially in Predator 2 and Predators where most of the Predator's victims are unsympathetic drug lords, criminal scum, or heartless soldiers. The only time the viewer has any reason to root for the protagonist against the Predator in the former is when it starts attacking police officers. Taken Up to Eleven in Predators, where two Predators fight each other in the climax.
- Sequelitis: A good portion of critics and some fans consider this the case with Predator 2 and Predators. Though Predator 2 has definitely gained better appreciation over time, and the issue with Predators could arguably be a case of I Liked It Better When It Sucked.
- So Bad, It's Good: Some moments in Predator and a good deal of Predator 2 could be considered this.
- Too Cool to Live:
- Visual Effects of Awesome: Given that Stan Winston was involved with the special effects, the Predator suits and cloaking device still look amazing years after they left theaters.
- Award Snub: Losing the Visual Effects Oscar to Innerspace. (Although Innerspace had some amazingly impressive and innovative special effects, including some from the guys who went on to make Photoshop.)
- Does This Remind You of Anything?/What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?: The film has been noted as an allegory for The Vietnam War — an unseen enemy who is well versed in camouflage, defeating a "superior" American force. (The Predator's technological advantage notwithstanding.)
- Ensemble Darkhorse: Blain (rocks a moustache, declares himself "a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus") and Mac (Scary Black Man, wigs outs after the Predator toys with them too much).
- First Installment Wins: While the sequels have their fans, the original Predator is by far the most well known and revered film in the franchise.
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- Of course, any movie with Arnie and Jesse Ventura is funnier because of their subsequent political careers, but lesser known is that Sonny Landham (Billy) also tried to run for Kentucky Governor and Senator. Carl Weathers later mocked this with a spoof campaign commercial: "Vote for me. I was in Predator!"
- See Ironic Echo on the main page. Arnold would later star in The Expendables and accuse Sylvester Stallone of liking to fight in the jungle.
- Speaking of The Expendables, Dutch's declaration that his team is "not expendable" is this since, at least in the three Expendables movies released as of this writing, none of the actors who play Dutch's platoon make an appearance.
- Jesse Ventura (Blain) spends the first movie wearing a MTV t-shirt under his combat gear. While MTV still had some rebel cred in 1987, the sight of a hulking badass wearing the shirt of a network now mostly known for Tween reality shows is hysterical.
- In pre-production, Jean-Claude Van Damme was supposed to play the Predator, but dropped out. Cue Mortal Kombat X and the original Predator, a DLC character, is able to face off against Van Damme Expy Johnny Cage.
- Jesse Ventura's character derides his teammates as a bunch of "slack jawed faggots" at one point. Later in life, Ventura would become an advocate for gay marriage and other LGBT rights.
- Ho Yay: When Blaine is killed, everybody on his team is upset, but his 'friend' Mac is absolutely devastated. He becomes almost suicidally vengeful and explains to a concerned Dutch that Blaine was his friend, with special emphasis on the word.
- Memetic Mutation: Some of the one-liners are downright legendary.
Blaine: Bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here, this stuff'll make you a Goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus — just like me!
Blaine: "I ain't got time to bleed."
Dutch: "If it bleeds, we can kill it."
Dutch: "Stick around."
Dutch: "Knock knock."
Dutch: "Ruuuuun! Goooooo! Get to da choppa!"
Dutch: "You're one ugly motherfucker."
- Many of these lines were used in the Legendary Encounters card game for card names, including "One Ugly Mother..." (twice), "If it bleeds, we can kill it", "Sexual Tyrannosaurus", and, of course, "Get to da choppa!" (in fact, the helicopter is seemingly referred to as the "choppa" as often as reasonably possible).
- Billy's laugh and the Predator's variation of it.
- The use of handheld miniguns.
- A smaller example: After KONY 2012 came out, Trolls on Facebook and the like started posting pictures of Dillon who — with his mustache and army outfit in Predator — looked a bit like Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony at a brief glance, at least to the ill-informed who didn't know the actor. Most said nothing but variations of "This guy's awesome", to see how many people they could rile up. It worked.
- Most Wonderful Sound: The Predator's plasma caster and Blaine's minigun.
- Narm: "GET TO DA CHOPPA!" Though many fans view it as Narm Charm.
- The Problem with Licensed Games: While most of the Licensed Games are decent, the NES version is an exception. Arnie wearing pink pants, the Final Boss being a giant Predator head, among others.
- Retroactive Recognition: Try to recognize Shane Black under Hawkins' 80s geeky glasses.
- Seinfeld Is Unfunny: While still a great action movie, some elements of Predator are hardly unique now that they have been imitated several times.
- Handheld miniguns are hardly revolutionary now that several action movies have imitated or parodied them.
- On a similar note, visible invisibility isn't as exciting now that works like Halo have imitated it.
- Back in its time, the film itself was considered shocking as it broke the action movie mold by having Arnie and his friends defeated by a stealthy being that used its brain and deception to defeat them and, in turn, is only beaten in the end by some quick thinking on part of the hero. Nowadays, it's common practice for action movies such as Die Hard have their protagonists rely on their brains instead of heavy firepower and shooting stuff.
- Special Effects Failure:
- The blank-firing adapters are visible in the barrels of Arnie's crew's guns.
- Later in the film, the Predator is seen swinging during daylight when it is nighttime in one shot.
- Tear Jerker:
- As Mac affectionately lays a whiskey flask on Blaine's body to Alan Silvestri's mournful yet warm and gentle trumpets:
Mac: Goodbye, bro.
- Later that night, Mac is on guard and looking at the stars whilst going over Vietnam memories with Blaine. Throughout this sequence, he's chewing tobacco — tobacco that everyone refused when Blain offered it to them in the helicopter.
- The thousand-yard-stare Dutch (who by this point has gone from a confident jocky super-human to a withering, traumatised wreck that has lost everyone he loved) gives in the film's final shots.
- Uncanny Valley: Several unusual audio examples, from the creepy distortions the Predator hears when the men speak to its bizarrely human laugh at the end.
- Vindicated by History: While a hit with audiences, Predator was not well received by critics at the time (although Roger Ebert gave it a positive review) and its Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes scores reflected this. In more recent times, critical attitudes have warmed and it has even gone on to be featured on several "best of" lists. (It's also picked up a reputation as one of the manliest movies ever.)
- One reason given for its rather impressive comeback is that films like this simply aren't made very much any more; big macho near-invincible action stars with massive guns and simple practical special effects gave way to more relatable heroes and wall-to-wall CGI. People are getting increasingly bored with what they've got and are looking to the past for entertainment.
- X Meets Y: Roger Ebert opened his review remarking that the film was Rambo combined with Alien; he meant it as a compliment, noting that the fusion counted for originality in Hollywood.