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Dash can see the future to a certain extent.
In the limo scene right before they find Syndrome with Jack-Jack, Dash says "...And then you (Mr. Incredible) threw that car..." However, Mr. Incredible NEVER threw a car before in the entire movie. Ever. BUT in five minutes, he takes out Syndrome with a thrown car. Also, Dash knew that the supersuits Edna made were special. He says "I dunno. Why did Mom try and hide them?", but keeping in mind he's really young, he probably doesn't even know he can see the future yet. And near the beginning he says "[If everyone is special], then no one is." Which parallels nicely what Syndrome told the entire family when they were imprisoned. Of course, the latter two examples could have been explained as the truth / story symmetry, but when you look at it with the first example in mind...
Mirage is an assassin (maybe even a metahuman one)
"We have something in common. According to the government, neither of us exists."
It's not like Disney or Pixar is gonna have her come out and say, "yes, I kill people for a living".
Considering the comic book influence here, she is Silver Sable, Elektra, Tommy Monaghan (The Hitman), Forerunner, Bullseye, Jessica Priest, Deathstroke and maybe a little Deadpool thrown in.
Mirage is a metahuman assassin.
For the assassination thereof, not possessing metahuman qualifications. She doesn't exist because the government refuses to publicly acknowledge killing off an supers that refuse to register, and cannot hire super heroes to stop them or send in the home guard without too much collateral damage. Nomanisan Island was sold to Mirage or Syndrome and added to the registry of those little countries that are to be ignored unless they start committing genocide on one another, with Mirage's payment (and, probably without them knowing but possibly in a tech-for-federal-aid deal, Syndrome's inventing budget) coming out of a developing countries package. Any supers that die there are ignored because the Nomanisan Police force (Mirage) find nothing suspicious, which is backed up by the Nomanisan Police Internal affairs bureau (also Mirage) and the Nomanisan federal Bureau of Investigation (...just guess), and the Parrs' country of residence (I assume an alternate-universe America, but don't recall if they avoided the A name) lists the Nomanisan investigation departments as "probably not a nationwide conspiracy, we can vouch for them as long as nobody bothers looking into it". While Nomanisan Island does exist, as do (presumably) the bureaucratic positions that Mirage fill (as well as possibly Syndrome), Mirage herself is merely an undocumented stand-in with no official recognizance by the country that banned the supers, poised to disappear at a moments' notice and leave the entire country of Nomanisan Island "mysteriously" abandoned, like the Mary Celeste incident for an entire nation.
Oliver Sansweet wasn't suicidal.
Some shadowy third party wished to destroy the Supers through litigation, and so they paid or blackmailed Sansweet into jumping precisely so he could be rescued by a Super and press charges.
After the Omnidroid was defeated, Agent Rick Dicker arranged to have Bob's sports car towed back to the Parr's house from the airport. He then treated the Incredibles to dinner before giving them a limo ride home.
This would explain why the sports car was in the driveway and why it's twilight when the Parrs arrive home.
Mirage is an advanced android.
Syndrome was a scientific genius who crafted amazing things in small packages. If Mirage was programmed with Syndrome's entire worldview, it probably includes whatever led to his initial fawning over Mr. Incredible; thus, the attraction. Syndrome probably just couldn't figure out how to make her superhumanly powerful on that tiny frame and so ruled out using her for assassinations directly. AIs he developed had a tendency to go rampant and act for their own self-preservation; Mirage's Heel Face Turn was probably her putting her own needs above her master's. It was unexpected, which is why Syndrome is shocked when she acts coldly towards him.
Mirage has superpowers.
Hence her comment to Mr. Incredible, "According to the government, neither of us exists," and her quick recovery from Elastigirl punching her in the face. She hid her powers from Syndrome because she knew of his hatred for Supers. This was why she didn't use her powers to save herself when Mr. Incredible was threatening to break her like a toothpick.
Mirage is an undocumented, illegal immigrant.
Helen pulled her punch when she hit Mirage
She's a veteran super and knows how to restrain herself to avoid leaving corpses in her wake. She also pulled her punch(es) on the burglar in the first act.
Mirage is future!Helen Parr.
Her crush-proof power is elasticity.
Elastigirl, having been given free legal use of her powers, develops control over her own body to such an extent that she can control individual tissues unconsciously without resorting to the form she usually sees herself as. She will never die of systemic organ failure; she can only take damage on a cellular level (burning, poison, lack of oxygen//blood). She can not only change her shape, but also finer details such as facial features; and she can keep her skin wrinkle-free. The only thing she can't do is change her hair color, which either fades naturally to white or is dyed when she is sent back from the future to help stop Syndrome.
She falls for Mr. Incredible the way she does, not because she's shallow, but because he was her first love and her husband from decades or even centuries ago.
"Mirage" refers, not to her powers, but to a personal nickname, a code name for the anti-Syndrome project, or her not being who she appears to be but instead who she doesn't.
Mirage had no superpowers, but was a superhero anyhow.
Badass Normal can't be ruled out. Given that Syndrome wanted to be a superhero but had no powers, it could be a reason for her to empathize.
The "lava wall" of Syndrome's tiki dining room isn't lava at all; it's two wall-sized plasma TV's looping footage of flowing lava. Ditto for the secret passage.
Even ignoring the complete lack of convection, the movement of the "lava" is not consistent with the way a liquid would flow. And it's the kind of thing Syndrome would do.
Violet's dark hair is a secondary effect of the mutation that produced her superpowers.
She couldn't have gotten dark hair from her parents: dark hair is dominant, while blond and red hair are recessive.
Mister Incredible bleaches his hair.
He likes having the look, and was happy that Dash got it naturally through recessive blonde genes. The reason his hair doesn't turn super-brittle and washed out once the melanin is leached from it? He dyes it blonde after bleaching it, and his hair has Nigh Invulnerability just like the rest of him.
Violet is adopted, possibly from another family who didn't want to deal with having a superpowered child in a world where superheroes weren't wanted.
Helen had an affair.
She accused Bob of it. And it's easier to suspect people of things one has done oneself.
Syndrome is a super but doesn't know it.
The kind of gadgeteering he does isn't really possible, even in a superhero universe. He invented working rocket boots at the age of, what, eleven? He doesn't recognize his own power, which leads to his idolization of Mr. Incredible and the Freudian Excuse that turns him evil.
Syndrome is a Spark!
Syndrome is Sylar.
Can you think of another character who fails to realise the full potential of his powers, thinks himself powerless, and decides to kill everyone as a result?
Syndrome's parents were Supers, but he didn't inherit the gene.
It's happened before in other shows/books/series, where two "supernatural" type characters have a child who doesn't have powers. It would also add to his bitterness toward Supers, since it wasn't his fault that he didn't have powers but his parents did. He'd feel the need to prove himself, not only to Mr. Incredible, but also to his parents, showing them that he could still be super without powers.
All Supervillains have been killed
No, seriously. What happened to them?
The supervillains decided to stay quiet while the superheroes were being recalled because a mass supervillain incursion would probably make people change their minds.
The ones that survived the military crackdown retired, worked more quietly in the criminal underworld or, like the Underminer, went underground and planned for when the superheroes inevitably returned.
The supervillains won.
They successfully infiltrated the government and society, and orchestrated the criminalization of superheroism. Now most of 'em are happily living in their penthouses.
There were NEVER any "super" villains.
Everyone who had powers was a superhero. The influence the government had over the supers and there being no older heroes implies certain things...
No super-powered villains are seen because the Super gene comes with a compulsion to protect others.
All supers are driven to become heroes. We see no supervillains onscreen at all.
This is mutually exclusive with the "Syndrome is a secret Super" theory above unless Syndrome has a rare mutation or genetic glitch that nullifies this compulsion.
Physical powers come with a pathological urge for saving people, whereas technopathy comes with a tendency towards sociopathy and (possibly environmental) megalomania or need for attention.
Regardless of Gamma Jack, who was nuts anyway but had to express his murderous side in a way that made him a hero, the heroes and villains tend to be delineated between "good guys" with super powers and bad guys with gadgets. Syndrome and Underminer had a thing about comparing themselves to others (Buddy because of Mr. Incredible's rant at the beginning of the film), but Bomb Voyage just did it for the money (and possibly spite), as far as we know. If technopathy is looked down upon as a "normal" thing (i.e., non-super), it may be ingrained through many technologically themed supers being treated like dirt by the "actual" supers.
The Supers were a project to create supersoldiers for the government.
The lawsuits were a conspiracy to get them out of the public eye after they started acting excessively and visibly. The original Supers were ignored because a better, more secret second generation were created.——
This movie takes place in the Watchmen Earth
Maybe, during the montage, we just saw the creation of the Keene Act. Maybe Syndrome was inspired by Ozymandias. Maybe we don't see the more dystopian aspects of the Watchmen Earth because this is, after all, a Disney production.
Maybe "Rick Dicker" is an alias for Richard Nixon, President of the United States. Note that "Rick" and "Dick" are both alternate forms of the name "Richard".
The Incredibles takes place during the 2000s of the Watchmen universe.
Dr. Manhattan did leave radiation behind during the 1960s, and it resulted in the mutation of humans into "Supers." This is where they came from. Their existence was covered up more than other heroes' because people would be deathly afraid of multiple superpowered people; most people convinced themselves that such an era never existed. Syndrome hunted them all down because he was related to Rorschach (red hair, freckles, butt ugly) and wanted to avenge his death at the hands of Dr. Manhattan; because Manhattan was gone, he settled for killing the remaining supers.
Syndrome (Buddy) is Mr. Incredible's bastard son.
It's not far fetched, assuming that Mr. Incredible was in his late twenties in the movie's prologue. If he had a fling with someone in high school (or shortly after high school)... their looks aren't that far apart.
Edna Mode is a limited precognitive.
She would need to make the suits for each family member. Even assuming she just adjusted Bob and Helen's old measurements as needed, how could she know the powers and measurements of the kids?
The "Everyone can be Super!" plot was originally Xerek's (the Big Bad who could have been).
Syndrome is half an obsessive Stalker with a Crush whose life has centered around one-upping Mr. Incredible ever since his rejection, half a kid who wants to play Super Hero a little too realistically. There is no reason for him to want to make everyone in the world Super — either for altruistic reasons, as his Misaimed Fandom has mistakenly concluded, or for evil reasons. He himself admits, "When everyone's Super, no one will be..." What is the connection between such a plan and every other facet of his character?
When Xerek was cut and Syndrome was promoted to Big Bad, Syndrome's revenge plot was promoted likewise. That's why Pixar randomly left in that one line — which is never set up, never explored, and never mentioned again — is a mystery. So is the ignorance of the second sentence, which reveals that his motives are entirely evil without even a Utopia Justifies the Means personal justification.
Syndrome was an active, and Mirage was his handler.
The plan was set in place by Rossum. They took one of their best programmers (Buddy Pine), implanted him with memories of crushing rejection by Mr. Incredible, and made him want to seek revenge. They then used him to destroy all the supers so that the United States would be left without protection. They could then use Syndrome (who, if he was in the D.C Dollhouse would likely have the code name of Kronos), to be the sole protection of America, controlled by the Rossum Corporation.
Jack-Jack is an elemental.
I have no real technology- or physics-related explanations, but still. Jack-Jack, at least currently, has shown powers that could be related to specific elements. Bursting into flame and laser vision (concentrated heat/light) are obviously fire. Transformation into a demon/devil/monster/whatever you want to call it is darkness. Transformation into metal/stone (or density control if you want to call it that) is earth, metal, or something similar. Phasing, flight/anti-gravity, and teleportation could be considered spirit, out of lack for a better name. Of course, he could also gain other forms and elements as he grows older and more experienced, such as air (which flight/anti-gravity could also fall under) or light (which could possibly be combined with fire). Feel free to offer explanations, forms, elements, etc.
Jack-Jack has a single matter/energy conversion power.
Mostly but not entirely copied from my original entry on the Headscratchers page: His powers at the end, with enough Rules Lawyering, can explain everything in "Jack-Jack Attack". The Eye Beams and Playing with Fire can have the same sources, if the former is just a very focused expression of the latter (emitting heat and light). The floating and walking on the ceiling are neutral and negative buoyancy, whereas the Heavy Jack-Jack at the end was a combination of shapeshifting and positive buoyancy. Going through the walls can be explained by many of the things that allow density change, such as if he has the single overall power of being able to change local matter (that is, his body) to energy and back, while affecting the way it is stored or used. If he has some way of containing heat or kinetic energy, or can adjust the stored energy to mass ratio by even a small amount (extra bonds instead of simple particles, etc.), he's probably been storing up extra environmental energy since his power first activated. Dash almost definitely has some energy-related powers, and Violet's shields are energy-based as well, so it's not unprecedented (although if I try to bring Superpower Genetics into this without Mr. Incredible having some sort of tactile telekinesis, I'd end up saying that all supers' powers are moving energy around in their own special way, which is true for all life as we define it).
All supers' powers are moving energy around in their own special way.
See above.[[supersecretspoiler: I jest, at least partly. But it could be interesting to see someone take that line of thought and run with it.]]
Jack-Jack's single power is Reality Warping.
He can adjust reality so that the world behaves as though each of his New Powers as the Plot Demands was the real one. Of course, being a baby, his mind tends to wander and jump randomly. It's possible he'll grow up to be a good version of the Superman: The Animated Series version of Mr. Mxyzptlk.
Syndrome invented all the technological extras.
It takes place in a 60sish time setting, but has things like computers and CD's. Well, it doesn't seem like much of a leap that Syndrome invented those in this world. He just doesn't mention them because they seem less impressive than weapons.
Mesmerella, from the comics, is Music Meister's sister
She's an Evil Redhead with a gaptooth, weird glasses and hypnotic powers. Her brother just has all the family's singing talent.
Sky High takes place in the future of The Incredibles world.
Obviously, the super-powered high school has been created so that the next generation of heroes can learn to use their powers without undo destruction towards the city that they're protecting.
Syndrome was a hero.
The entire plot of the movie in the present day was a Xanatos Gambit by Syndrome and the "dead" heroes to show the world that superheroes were still needed, by creating a super-threat and calling the Incredibles into action. They come back into open action and are accepted as heroes, or he is; Either way, super heroes make a comeback. Hey, it's not more convoluted than the Joker's plan in The Dark Knight.
Syndrome does have superpowers.
...But not in a flashy and obvious way like flexiblity or flight. He invents rocket boots as a child. As an adult he invents robots, force-fields and war weapons. His superpower is his superbrain. He does not realize it as all of the popular superpowered people he looked up to as a child had more heroic abilitys.
Violet dyes her hair black.
It would not be out of character for her, and notice how her hair has a purple/blue gleam to it. If her hair was naturaly black it would be dark brown, with the appearance of black. It also explains why her parents have blonde and aubern hair yet she has dark hair. It would mean that her real hair is either blonde, aubern, or reddish-blonde.
The connections of "Kronos" that are slightly too unconfirmed to go on a main page:
Kronos referred to Mr. Incredible, with Syndrome as Zeus. Having been (in his mind) the metaphorical son of Mr. Incredible, inspired by him and made in his image, after Kronos attempted to destroy Zeus with his greater power as a titan, Zeus came back and destroyed Kronos and the other titans, making the world safer and giving the gods (nonsupers) free and collectively omnipotent reign over the new world paradigm. However, it was Syndrome who was eventually taken down by his true (though not biological) son when attempting to destroy it. Interestingly enough, though I don't think it goes that far, Kronos created a whole bunch of things and beings (mainly gods that are nowadays considered subservient to Zeus) when he castrated his father, Ouranus, which could be compared to Syndrome taking Mr. Incredible's kids and possibly both emasculating him and taking his wife away by having Mirage mess with his head and overtly flirt with him. Credence could be given to this if the Underminer and similar villains adapted their technology from Syndrome's marketed inventions, since that (the inventions) was what was cast off in the attempted destruction of Ouranos, but I don't know from whence their tech came and that would be stretching the metaphor a bit. Syndrome and Mirage actually did work for the government.
Nomanisan Island was a government-owned weapons research and testing facility. It explains why Syndrome was able to do so many things on the island that the United States would have investigated and shut down years ago if it were Syndrome's own private island. The government never figured there was anything up with them, and every time they would send someone to check up on Syndrome, they could just pretend that everything was normal and nice. Syndrome earned a ton of money working for the United States, and of course on the side dealing weapons to other countries and criminal organizations secretly and illegally.
This universe is a hallucination by Captain Hammer.
After Penny died, Hammer couldn't accept it, so he came up with an elaborate universe where he is not mean, and his actions are justified. He slowly, after talking to a therapist, begins to admire and envy Dr. Horrible, thus explaining how his general 'fight against soceity' and blonde hair are similar to the villain. Syndrome represents Dr. Horrible, obviously, and is made to be sinister and cruel, instantly disregarding life. Also, in grasping to the idea that everyone admires him, Syndrome admires him. (Also, Mr. Incredible accidently called Buddy "Billy" once and threw a car at his head.) Penny is split into two people. Elastigirl, the Penny he loves who loves him in return and is a little nerdy, with flexibility as a bonus. Second, is Mirage, the Penny that "Dr. Horrible was creating," the terrible girl who doubted him and cared about radical ideas. The family was based on what he wanted to happen.
Syndrome owns Apple
He sends Mr. Incredible a freaking iPad!!
The period of superhero repression in that world is when Despicable Me takes place.
Think of it, supervillains feel secure enough to have a banking system for their operations and can easily overwhelm governments without worrying about superheroes trying to stop them.
Syndrome wanted Mr. Incredible to kill Mirage
He had a real sinister look on his face when he had her in his grip and sounded real disappointed when he couldn't do it.
Mr. Incredible was in on it.
Suburban midlife crisis was driving him completely insane, so he agreed to do a high-stakes LARP with his devoted fan, Buddy, even when it meant putting his family and the world on the line.
That mugging was staged.
Seriously, the timing is just too perfect. A mugger decides to, in broad daylight, commit theft in a busy part of the city, with a street nearby, under a window where Mr. Incredible just happens to be standing? Clearly, Mirage, after planting the pad, signaled a pair of actors to stage the mugging, as part of a Batman Gambit to get Mr. Incredible to act, blowing his cover and/or getting fired, as incentive to agree to work for Syndrome.
S on Syndrome's costume actually stands for 'Superman'.
Superman comics exist in Incredibles universe, and Buddy wanted to become a hero like Superman. This could also be a subtle Take That at Superman by Disney.
Helen had the easiest childbirths EVER.
Having Violet and Dash? No labor problem, just stretch!
Jack-Jack will settle into a single power as he grows older.
I don't know who, but somebody said that Jack-Jack had so many powers to represent the endless potential young children have. Also, it would make a wierd sort of sense in the universe that the reason the supers have such suiting abilities is because they weren't born with them specifically, but their abilities adjusted themselves to be the most useful to that specific person.
Mezmerella is Psychwave after a Face Heel Turn
Psychwave was an early victim of the Omnidroid and was supposedly killed by the first Omnidroid. Everseer, whose brain is being used by Xerek and the Unforgivables for their sinister plans, was killed by the same Omnidroid and was the leader of the team Psychwave used to be on. It could very well be Psychwave survived the incident, but suffered some memory loss, but retained her powers and became a supervillain. The writers of the comic have said Mezmerella has a tragic past...
Violet is Boo from Monster's Inc.
There are several points in monster's inc where Boo appears to have the power of invisibility. Monsters have to matched up to their specific kid so that they get maximum scream capacity. Boo was matched up with, that's right, Randall, a monster that becomes invisible. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. It's still a cool idea. As Violet grows up, she convinces herself that Sulley was just a dream or imaginary friend. Perhaps being good friends with monsters makes her subconsciously less comfortable around people and therefor shy in the human world. Or it could be the result of trauma from being kidnapped by Randall.
The Incredibles takes place in either the Ninties or 2004.
If it takes place in the Silver Age, then tell why there's cell phones in the comic? And modern looking cell phones at that...
When every Super is born, they're just like Jack-Jack
Every Super when they're born starts out without one particular power, instead showing a multitude of different powers. As they grow older, and their personalities start to coalesce more, they "grow into" their powers, and they lose the ability to do any of the other things they did as a child.
In the future Dash will marry an older version of Penny.
This is something I realized some time ago.
The Incredibles is an alternate version of Wanted
This might be a bit of a stretch, but what if the fact that superheroes got outlawed gave the villains enough reason to not revolt? The fact that they never obeyed the law to begin with means the law against heroes has absolutely no power over them unless they allow it to.
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