Team Fortress 2 Classes
This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing. The regular entry on this topic is elsewhere. Please see this programme note.
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The ages of The Team.
- Scout: '68: 19-20, 72: 23-24. See Track Terrorizer.
- Demoman: '68: 44-45 '72: 48-49
- Sniper: '68: 43-44, '72: 47-48
- Spy: '68: 42-43 '72: 46-47
- Heavy: . '68: 44-45 '72: 48-49
- Engineer: '68: 44-45 '72: 48-49
- Soldier: '68: 44-45 '72: 48-49
- Medic: Younger: '68: 40-41, '72: 44-45 Older: '68: 52-53 '72: 56-57
- Pyro: '68: 39-40 '72: 43-44 Mental Age: 5 year old girl
The Scout is...
- ...of mixed heritage. He was born in the Bronx, but his family moved to South Boston. Hence his accent. He had to develop his skills at running and fighting in order to survive in the face of discrimination, as the Scout is a Red Sox fan.
- ...the grandfather of Ellis . The Scout got to know Engineer's daughter and after finishing his job as a mercenary he settled down in Texas to be with her. His son moved to Georgia, where he met Ellis's mother. Besides, the family resemblance is pretty obvious.
- Alternatively, he could be Nick's father.
- This isn't possible since TF2 and all other Valve games exist as games in the L4D universe (Ellis even acknowledges that TF2 is a game in their universe), but then again, it could be possible that L4D and TF2 take place in the same universe, and the conflict between RED and BLU was made into a game years later.
- In the catch-up comic Saxton Hale refers to TF 2 as a documentary video game so it seems that a game was made even before the war ended.
- ...the father of Ness from Earthbound. Where do you think Ness's dad got much money if he just works making hamburgers? Ness's SMAAAASH hits are clearly inherited from his father's ability to BONK enemies into submission, as are his PSI powers; the Scout's double jump is a form of levitation. Going further with this theory, note how Ness is the slowest of the four playable characters in Earthbound. What does the Scout take pride in? His Speed! The Scout himself used to be slow as a child, and is embarrassed that his son is suffering the same problems as he did.
- ...the son or nephew of Donnie Donowitz. Bonus WMG: Combining this with Word of Tarantino results in Inglourious Basterds, Team Fortress 2, and True Romance occuring in the same universe.
- Given that Donnie is likely from Boston, given his Fenway reference, and their similar attitudes and love of battin' people's faces in, yeah. Though I'd guess uncle-nephew for them.
- ...the son of Yankee Irving from "Everyone's Hero" Yankee was about 7 in 1932, that's more than enough time to have a 19 year old son by 1968. Seeing that he's a Yankees fan, while the Scout is from Boston (complete with Red Sox refrences in his achevements), they must REALLY dislike each other.
- ...the past self of Goddard from TimeSplitters: Future Perfect. If the Scout from escaped one of the maps in 1968, the year the game takes place, he could have served in the Vietnam War, like Goddard. They both have some similarities.
- They wear similar hats, wear dog tags and have rolled-up sleeves
- They use similar weapons, like baseball bats, shotguns and pistols. (Also, it would make sense for him/them to learn how to use a variety of weapons later)
- They are conceited ("You got the real deal right here, baby!" vs. Almost all of Scout's lines)
- They look eerily similar
- Adopted. Well, the BLU Scout, at least. The RED Scout is RED Spy's real son.
- SCOUT IS BOO!
- ...really named Nathan.
- ...is a Mann. Grandson, somehow.
- An alternate universe version of The Batter from OFF
- ...named Robin (RED) or Jay (BLU)
- Alternatively, his name is Soren Mathas. Go ahead and apply to anything of him-fits, right?
- Able to eat as fast as he runs. Seven older brothers? Three is enough, thank you- the dinner table must've been a nightmare.
- ...from Brooklyn, but he moved to Boston some time in the fifties. One of his achievements is called "Dodgers 1, Giants 0" — odd for a Bostonian, but it perfectly fits his Brooklyn accent. note
The RED Scout is a Red Sox fan from Boston; the BLU Scout is a Yankees fan from Brooklyn
No wonder they hate each other.
He has incredibly low self esteem as a result of him being the runt of the litter and his superior older brothers soaking up more of his mother's attention, somewhat like Ron Weasley
. The only thing he could train himself to do better than them was run and play baseball, so he takes far too much pride in those abilities because of it. This is also why he is constantly proclaiming his superiority to others- he is desperately reassuring himself.
Blu Scout and Red Scout are twins
Red Spy is shown to be in a relationship with Blue Scout's mother, and in the sequel to "Ring of Fired", Red Spy shows concern for Red Scout's mother. While it wouldn't be impossible for Spy to have gotten around to both of them, it's more likely that they share a mother, and being twins explains both the resemblance and why both can be "the youngest of eight brothers".
The Soldier is…
- A supporter of the war in Vietnam. The thought comes from the gunboats. The reason the Us entered the war, was because US ships were attacked in the gulf of Tonkin. What were they attacked by? Gunboats. The US used Gunboats to enter into the war. The soldier uses the Gunboats to get into combat faster and easier. (figured this needed saying since no one else has said it. Anywhere.) It's possible he bought his way to Vietnam (Army still won't accept him, thus he's still a civilian.) and went on a killing spree again. He likely then was hired by RED/BLU, who were impressed by the amount of killing he could achieve on his own.
- Actually a mercenary veteran from WWII. His "War buddies" we see are actually pictures of his now deceased friends from WWII. He's forgetting the names because as we know, the soldier is quite unhinged. He's quite desperate about forgetting about them, and has to constantly reassure himself of his military past to not forget about salty pete and the rest of the gang. It would also explain why his killing spree lasted until end after the war. He was extracting revenge on the krauts for his friends.
- Saxton Hale’s son. Soldier couldn't join the US army because he's actually Australian.
- This is also why Soldier's accent is completely non-regional. He's just doing a ridiculously exaggerated imitation of an American to hide any hint of Australian.
- Canadian/Born on a foreign army base. He couldn't get into any branch of the U.S. military because they wouldn't believe his fake ID, which was the image from a "We Card Under 18" sign with a wallet-size photo of himself glued on. He wanted to get into the U.S. military so he could be in a real military, and kept it up into the 1960s so he could actually fight instead of guard anything with the word "peace" in. He calls the Engineer "Canadian" either because he considers Engie no different from a draft dodger or because they actually hail from the same small town in Manitoba. He doesn’t know the Army accepts Canadians. Or he could be from China, given his obsession with Sun Tzu. All he knows about American is via second hand information, especially war movies.
- A woman/intersexed. She wasn't allowed in the army for medical reasons. That medical problem is being the wrong gender. She was always a fairly masculine child, and was extremely violent, and going to war seemed like something she would really enjoy. Nine years of heavy smoking, screaming at enemies, and inhaling gun powder have turned her voice gravelly and manish. To her, only civilians can be women, which is why she got so panicked and upset when apparently Demoman called her a civilian- she thought he'd figured it out and spilling her secret.
- Of German descent. Soldier’s bio says he’s from the Midwest, which has a high population of German immigrants. He changed his name to avoid suspicions of treason, and because he honestly did want to fight for America.
- Gay/Bi Self explanatory. Adds a level of sadness to the events of “WAR!’’
- Actually called Jane Doe: At least the BLU Soldier. His parents were not only "clever" and decided to give their child a punny name but wanted a girl as well and were very disappointed when he wasn't. He doesn't have to assert his masculinity or anything by changing his name or using an alias, but he still wants people to know he's not a woman. That's why the sign on his apartment window says "Mister Jane Doe".
- Right about a surprising amount. Sniper's name is actually Barble Bapkins Mundy, Engineer is Canadian, and the Pyro's name is in fact Joe(sephine?).
- A Poet. Many soldiers wrote war poetry in WW2, but Soldier, noticing a distinct lack of 'War Is Glorious' poetry, decided to fill that market himself. He isn't very good at it.
- slightly savvier than he lets on... Soldier KNEW about the robots coming! His halloween costume wasn’t just a fun getup, it was his disguise if he needed to escape! He tried to tell the other team members, but no one believed him because, well, he’s soldier. Only when Spy got into the “TOP SECRET” room and saw the photos for himself did he realize the robots were coming.
- The Soldier believes wearing the headgear of a fallen warrior imbues him with their power. Explains his large number of anachronistic hats.
- The Soldier was turned away from the war because the Announcer had a hand in things. The Announcer saw his potential as a deadly mercenary and denied him entrance to the war as a test. He passed.
- The Soldier is a real crazy homeless guy He's one of those homeless vets you sometimes see on the street. Except he's heavily armed from Army Surplus, and isn't missing a leg. And in the same way that Saxton Hale automatically approved his offer for buiding the Decoy map because he offered to do it for free (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Decoy_contract.png), he was automatically approved as a Team Mercenary because he offered to do it for free/for his country/civic duty/whatever. This also explains why he lives in such crappy lodgings and shares them, when the other guys earn millions of dollars.
- The Soldier comes from the future Some of the responses while he wears the Tin Soldier set would mention it, but this means nothing as it can easily be a part of his disguise. But when you think of how BLU Soldier reacted when he thought RED Demoman called him a civilian... He did mention taking part in three tours of duties. Using the exact name of anti-robot campaigns introduced in Mann vs. Machine Update. Everyone thought he was just being crazy prepared and his obsession just included believing in robot apocalypse. The truth is he knew of it all along because he witnessed it. That's why his costume for Halloween is a robot and how he thought of Decoy map - he just saw it working before he was sent back in time. As for how he ended up in his past - he either was chosen by somebody to prevent the fall of Mann. co or just pissed off Merasmus again. The magician was able to send him along with his teammates to 10th century, so sending one person back for at most a hundred years should be easy for him.
- This explains why he opened those robotic crates in the Death of a Salesbot comic. Why would the soldier try to prevent a war? The future engineer did warn the mercs to not open those crates since it would lead to the Hat Wars of the 1990s, but soldier encourages them to because he WANTS to fight in the Hat Wars of the 1990s.
- The Soldier really DID fight Nazis, and WWII lasted until 1948 Considering the TF2 Universe runs on Testosterone Poisoning, and holds bombastic technology and magical powers, it's more than likely that Hitler's Germany would've grabbed onto this kind of power along with every other world power. Whether scientific or occultic, (or possibly both), the Thrid Reich would've lasted a lot longer than usual.
- He didn't just fight Nazis-when he got bored occasionally, he went to the Pacific to "help" the troops. And he didn't just kill Nazis- he blew up their H Qs, turned important Nazis into bits, and liberated death camps by himself. He was a One-Man Army. He also often saved troops, and fought alongside his fellow Americans. The Allies considered him a sort of Creepy Awesome Anti-Hero- he'd kill enemies, defile their corpses, take their heads- but he would also rocket jump and destroy tanks, artillery and any crazy technology the Nazis had.
- ...is Crazy from World War 2. Before hand, he was a normal guy with an above average sense of Nationalism/patriotism for his country. The problem is he tried to present himself too nationalistic for the Military Recruiters, and all of them turned him down. Feeling betrayed, he decided to prove himself by saving as much money as possible and sneaking into France. He quickly realized how much pain war really was, but when he was faced to face with a Nazi, with only a rocket launcher in his hand, it was kill or be killed. He's been nuts ever sense. So in short, he is a reverse Shell-Shocked Veteran.
- ...A Liar. While he's clearly unhinged, his "Nazi killing spree" that lasted until 1949 is a cover up - in reality, while he was never officially part of the US or any Military, he instead joined up with the Polish resistance against the occupying Soviets, which also means Poland is a free country and Germany might not be east/west divided. He gets along well enough with his team's Heavy because the Heavy's father was killed in a Gulag - it's possible they even fought together. It being a Nazi Killing Spree was a cover up to lessen the punishment and deflect blame from the West should he be caught - eventually through the years and lots of explosions, he concussed himself to the point where he honestly believes that he was killing Nazis. Both the Medic and Heavy know otherwise, but refuse to tell him because they know regardless, he was fighting oppression.
- Asian. He has a great respect for Sun Tzu and many of his items have Asian designs, such the Chinese "Terracotta Trooper" item set and the Japanese "Half-Zatochi" katana. His race was a factor in why the US military rejected him from every branch (assuming the TF2verse didn't have the Nisei battalions), so his stereotypically American behavior and independent Nazi-killing spree were his attempt to prove himself a proud citizen of America. This is also why he covers his eyes.
The only snag to this theory is that we've seen the Soldier's eyes and they aren't slanted. For the sake for this theory I will claim that he has "anime eyes".
- Psychic- In addition to some of the above theories about future time travel or savvy. There was a reason he wanted that bucket the instant he saw it. He knew securing that bucket was the only thing that could prevent someone from challenging him to an ALS Ice Bucket Challenge.
- He also created the bread monster to make the Scout's date go better.
- The son of Team Fortress Classic's Soldier. He wanted to fight in WWI but couldn't get in any branch of the military, and was extremely disappointed in his son when the same exact thing happened to him in the WWII era: fighting a pointless war. The only difference? His son doesn't seem to believe (or want to believe) his war is pointless.
The Demoman is...
The Heavy is…
- …related to or is General Nikolai Alexandrovitch Zakharov Both are bald, heavyset Russians. General Nikolai Alexandrovitch Zakharov once stood unflinching under a hail of automatic fire, earning him the nickname of the Man of Stone, while the Heavy is capable of taking large amounts of damage from multiple weapons and moves slowly.
- Ocelot Russian – check Rotary Gun – check Can kill people by pointing fingers and saying "bang" - check … Man, he's really let himself go.
- Jorge-052s ancestor
- …related to Sinistar. Heavy: "I am Heavy Weapons Guy" "I live" "run, cowards" "hide, cowards"… Sinistar: "I am Sinistar" "beware, I live" "run, coward" "beware, coward" Also, while he never explicitly says it, the Heavy does hunger.
- a sentimental man who names his guns after loved ones. He has a wife, Sascha, and a daughter, Natascha. (Note, however, that Sas(c)ha is also a male name in Eastern European countries.)
- All of Heavy's guns are named Sascha, so the voice clip doesn't need to be changed. Sascha can be short for Natascha, she just uses her "full name" because she's bigger.
- more affected by his past than he lets on. His dad was killed fighting the Communists in 1941, his mother and sisters were sent to a gulag, and it proceeded to burn down, all the soldiers dead. Let's say for argument's sake that Poker Night at the Inventory is canon. He was apparently hired by RED because he killed many soldiers. Heavy was the one who burned down the gulag, killed the soldiers, and because it was his first taste of trauma and death, was somewhat shaken by it. It'd explain why he won't talk about it with The Director and keeps changing the subject back to Sascha. It'd also explain his attachment to Medic. He's really afraid of death and is in denial about respawn.
- Given that the warehouse burned down, this would also nicely explain why Pyro frightens him so much. (Or not. It's suggested Misha burnt the gulag down himself.)
- A member of the Orlov family. Because Orlov Sandvich.
- ... related to FPS Russia (Probably his grandson).
- ... related to Oleg Kirrlov.
- Look at Oleg with a minigun, quite the resemblance no?
- In hiding. Thus why he was suprised to get the call, and was trying to avoid what he would think of as Gray Mann pretending to be miss Pauling, with similar cases being the Medic and the Engineer. Being the 3 classes most likely to be backstabbed makes one paranoid after all.
- ...the face of Team Fortress 2 because he's the least terrible at his job. If Poker Night at the Inventory is anything to go by, he's not as stupid as he seems.
- The Scout, who relies on his athleticism to survive, drinks sugary soft drinks regularly, even in the middle of battle.
- The Soldier is crazy, of course. And putting explosives in the hand of an insane man is probably not a good idea.
- The Pyro is also crazy. And putting a flamethrower in the hands of an insane man/woman/alien is also probably not a good idea.
- The Demoman seems to be the most obvious one, given that he's completely drunk off his ass, but his liquor itself could be set off by a stray explosion, and he has terrible depth perception, since he's missing an eye, meaning it's that much harder for him to aim his pipes.
- The Engineer seems the most competent man on the team, but this is the guy who chopped off his hand to see if he could replace it with a robotic one. His face right before he slices off his hand also didn't seem to say "I know exactly what I'm doing with this."
- The Sniper is constantly shouting at the top of his lungs during gameplay and giving away his location, and standin' around like a bloody idiot, allowing anyone that wants to shoot him to do so, now that they know where he is.
- The Medic is...well, the Medic.
- And the Spy leaves a trail of cigarette butts wherever he goes, and his idea of a disguise is to wear a picture of the impersonation's face on a mask and run up to the nearest exposed back.
The Heavy suffers from Delusion Companion Syndrome.
In which victims believe inanimate objects to be sentient
. The way he talks to and fawns over his gun isn't too strange; lots of gun owners take great pride in their weapons and give names to them
. No, the companion here is the Sandvich. Not only does he talk to it, it seems to talk back to him ("What was that, sandvich? Kill them all? Good idea!"), or at least only he thinks so. He sings songs in its praise, warns others to "run from the sandvich", as if it were alive and malicious, and even says things like, "Sandvich and I are coming for you!". Note he put "sandvich" first, indicating that the sandvich is in control.
How did he get these delusions? Brain damage via food poisoning- a sandwich full of bologna and cheese, With all the sweat and filth of battle staining it, is more than likely to harbor nasty parasites.
- It's gotten worse. He's now convinced a bar of chocolate is his Sandvich.
- Not anymore, since an update made quite a few lines Sandvich-specific.
The Sandvich is...
- ...PEOPLE! That mysterious meat slice? IT'S NOT "JUST HAM".
- '...made by the Medic for the Heavy.'' The "V" in "Sandvich" could be used to represent the accent of either character, and it's a healing item. This is a little bit more likely if the above WMG is true.
- Well, Medic made Heavy a giant Sandvich on one of the Christmas cards, so maybe you're on to something.
- The Heavy from Nerf NOW!! recently got an upgrade to his Sandviches from an earlier storyline. Seems appropriate.
- ...a sapient sandwich who worked as a mercenary for the Administrator. However because of his attempts to make friends in the battlefield, the Administrator decided to get rid of all that he loved and put him in the fridge, guarded by the BLU Soldier and Scout so he couldn't escape. This was until the RED Heavy got inside the base and ate him. Now he is getting his way out of hell to avenge his own death by killing the Administrator.
- A bagel Spy.
- Related: Meet the Sandvich was taken from the perspective of the Spy's head in the Medic's fridge. It would explain why we couldn't see what was going on outside.
- The tenth class. This is why it has its own 'meet the' video— Someone on the team secretly intercepted and killed the guy, making him into a sandvich to hide the body.
The Engineer is...
- ...Radigan Conagher. In Meet The Engineer, he says that the sentry was "designed by me", but in Loose Canon, we can clearly see blueprints for the sentry in Radigan's workshop. Furthermore, we know that Radigan built a third Life Extender after building the first two (i.e. after working out the bugs in the original design), which he is presumably keeping to himself. He's pretending to be his own grandson to avoid suspicion from his employers. Also, the life extender explains how he managed to earn 11 PH Ds and work for 10 years in the oilfields.
- Which makes you wonder whose corpse was in the grave Blutarch dug up...
- Which would explain why the Gunslinger works, It is a better version of the Respawn machines that Radigan made earlier....instead of bringing you back to life though, it makes you stronger, and have more youth, which explains why the Engineer looks so young, and the +25 Health bonus on the Gunslinger itself.
- ..a rokuro-kubi. These are youkai in Japanese folklore who are humanoid and are able to stretch their necks.
- compensating for childhood torment by playground bullies. Engie's favorite "toy" was the sandbox. He liked to build undefined sand structures, the larger the better, but the bullies were always there to destroy them. So he started building stuff that kills people. This is also why he reports every destroyed building: It brings back unhappy memories.
- ...Dr. Horrible's father. Mad science obviously runs in the Conagher family, as illustrated in the Engineer update. Furthermore, while the events of Sing-along Blog happen in the late 2000s, TF2 takes place in the late 1960s. Billy (whose real last name is Conagher; he trained himself out of an accent so he could be taken seriously) took the plans for the freeze ray from Dell but modified the required element from australium to wonderflonium. However, he has strained relations with his dad for not only using, but improving sappers to use on vans. And moving on from this...
- Captain Hammer grew up reading Saxton Hale comics and stuffs tiny Homewreckers in his gloves. His outlook is about the same as Saxton himself, and notice it only takes one punch to destroy the controlling device (which is made of metal) but Dr. Horrible survives the blow?
- ... Short because of his Grandfather's Australium Usage. If you look at all the classes, you see that the Engineer is the shortest of them all, Shorter then even the Scout! The reason I believe he's short is because of his Grandfather. Now, we know that Radigan Conagher was originally a normal sized intelligent man who could build Life-Supporting Machines without Australium, but when he used Austrailium, he became a muscle bound Australian man with an even bigger brain and a short temper, much like all Australians (He also gained their kick-ass Facial and Chest hair). However, we have no indication that his son, the Engineer from Team Fortress Classic, used any Australium. I believe that Australium introduced in one generation severely degenerates future generations without them using Australium. Radigan looked like an Australian, TFC's Engineer looked like a normal person, The modern Engineer has a large brain, short and weak physical body, deranged and almost suicidal ideals (If cutting off your arm for a robotic one isn't suicidal, I don't know what is), and a form of Sadism. If the Engineer has a child, odds are it could be even worse...
- ...a Fraud. In Meet the Engineer he states that his machines were designed by him and built by him, but there are sentry gun blueprints on Radigan's wall, the gunslinger and minisentry were Radigan's design, and the teleporters are from a company called Telemax, if the logo on the side is any indication. He's at the very least a liar.
- ...operating off of Genetic Memory. He says that his machines were designed and built by him because he's certain that they are - after all, "he" formulated the ideas. A side effect of the Australium his ancestor was exposed to caused unfinished blueprints to form in Dell's mind. (As for Telemax, etc., it's possible that Dell leased the rights to them or used to work for them.)
- Alternatively, Radigan's blueprints were only first drafts (IIRC, they only covered the Level 1 & 2 sentries), which Dell eventually completed. Or, even if Radigan's designs were working, Dell may have given them massive upgrades, even if they were only internal. Dell also freelanced before working for BLU and TFIndustries
- ... a turncoat We already know he helped build the robots(see the heads in Engineer Update Trailer). He used Radigan's files on the life extenders built to track down Gray, or was approached because of his engineering skills, updated Gray's life-extender, and is working directly with him. That's why there isn't a robot Engineer, why the robots are blue instead of grey, and why the characters looking at the maps in the secret rooms (Spy, Heavy, Scout) are giving Engie the side-eye on the Team Fortress website banner.
- "Let 'em cry 'Dirty Traitor!' Y'all will understand it later..." Engie could be working to screw over the entireity of the Mann Family messup while ensuring the financial liquidity of his friends, playing Gray against the Admin while he follows his grandfather's maps of Australium Caches...
- The ex-CEO of Frontier Engineering, and the actual person behind the Australium theft and request to get the gang back together. He installed the Pyro as CEO to keep it safe and happy, before going underground. He could be tailing Helen, and may have planted a cigarette to shift suspicion to her.
- Or the brains behind it, with the Pyro as a figurehead, as well as a deterent towards to-be attempts to kill him off, since assassinations on him are far easier than if the assassin was sent after Pyro who would be the best anti-infiltration class after all.
- ...Construct-it Conagher, father of Fix-It Felix. Felix has the accent and everything.
The Engineer's PhDs are in...
- Biological engineering.
- Biomedical engineering.
- Chemical engineering.
- Civil engineering.
- Computer engineering.
- Electrical engineering.
- Mechanical engineering.
- Military engineering.
- Mining engineering.
- Nuclear engineering.
- Reverse engineering.
The Engineer has several Minors as well as PhDs.
The Engineer can
play any song on a single string of his guitar, like this
The RED Engineer's name is Mac
This way, both Engineers are named after a brand of computer.
The Engineer knows how to operate locomotives.
Thus, The Engineer is also an engineer!
The Medic is…
- a Holocaust survivor. The description of the Medic's Mountain Cap indicates he may have been a field surgeon in the Wehrmacht, the Germany Army, during WWII, which means he must've been at least in his early 20s during the war, but "He never was, and never has been, a Nazi." His bio also hints at a "dark past". During World War II, Nazi scientists occasionally coerced talented Jewish doctors to "help" them by holding threats over their families. His dark past: He helped the Nazis experiment on live innocent human beings because he couldn't bear to see his (daughter? son? wife?) hurt. . Perhaps the sheer depravity of the all the things that went on around him broke him, and transformed him into the sadistic Mad Scientist we see in the game. When the war was over, he knew he was too twisted to save - so he kissed his family goodbye and took up a new job, one in which his new proclivities would never be used against anyone save other mercenaries… Suddenly his drug abuse makes a lot more sense. Or maybe he himself was able to escape the Holocaust as a youngster by passing as a Gentile, but the rest of his family wasn't so fortunate, and one by one he saw his relatives hauled off to the ovens. Enough of these Break the Cutie moments combined with his Survivor Guilt from the inability to save his loved ones eventually drove him to insanity. His fondness of the violin is a memento from a happier time.
- Personally, this troper supports the Holocaust survivor theory, but instead, believes the Medic was a German doctor who was kind to his Jewish "patients." Operating on them gave them a quick death and saved them from the showers. However, when he was forced to operate on his DAUGHTER (that'd imply, that his wife was was Jewish), he snapped. He operated on a very high ranking SS Officer, and ended up removing his skeleton and losing his medical license. Then, after reading a German translation of Frankenstein, he went insane, made a real Frankenstein's Monster, set all the Jews free, and they destroyed all the Nazis in the camp. Eventually, the Medic was branded too insane for the Nazis and a war criminal, for "the massacre of the innocent Aryans from the Fatherland." The Medic fled to Sweden with his wife, but his daughter and her boyfriend joined the resistance and were soon killed. The Medic never believed in the Nazis- only working for them because he was a very well regarded doctor for his time. Out of guilt for not stopping his daughter from joining the resistance, he created the Quick Fix, and eventually the Medigun. to heal people and save lives.
- Possibly supporting the Jewish theory: Listen to "Archimedes" and tell me there isn't a Klesmer/Yiddish vibe going on.
- More likely the British voice-actor doesn't know how to pronounce German properly, especially the umlauts (like Übercharge). That's why he pronounces "Danke schön" as "Danke sheyn". His pronunciation of "Archimedes" is merely the English pronunciation. Any native German speaker would pronounce this Greek name the Greek way (Αρχιμήδης).
- The creators specifically wanted the team to sound inauthentic.
- Regarding "Archimedes", I think you're a bit mixed up. What the person you're replying to was referring to was that the song "Archimedes", from the soundtrack, sounds a lot like traditional Jewish music, if you're somewhat familiar with that.
- a grown-up Klaus Baudelaire from A Series of Unfortunate Events, which also factors in Break the Cutie and Ambiguously Jewish. He's short-tempered because of his bad childhood. Think about it. He became a doctor because he's used to protecting his two siblings, both are very intelligent, Klaus is a German name, and he looks a lot like a young Medic.
- a grown-up male version of the Little Sister. Dr. Tenenbaum tried to make a Little Brother, but his self-healing abilities were too slow-acting to be useful so he was promptly abandoned on the surface. When he grew up he got his doctor's degree and, using the invincibility powers of ADAM, invented the Medigun. Notice that he also has a preference towards being protected by big, tough, gun-wielding brutes... Sometime before the game, RED sent him back to Rapture to recover something of interest (possibly more of Tenenbaum's research) and ended up recruiting the splicer that became the Pyro. The artbook for the second game does mention the existence of "Little Brothers" as a deleted concept; in-universe, they were implanted with the same slugs as the sisters (possibly with similar abilities conferred), but apparently became too violent and destructive to be used as efficient gatherers. Hmm... he has their iconic weapon, the Vita-Saw…
- Related Theory: Medic is Tenenbaum's brother. He lost track of his sister in the camps, and never saw her again. He had a medical talent and scientific curiosity to match hers, but as he grew more tortured and twisted by what he was forced to do, he grew to resent the altruistic behavior he remembered of her, becoming increasingly certain that she had been killed because of her naiveté … gradually, he began to suspect that his captors had the right idea….
- gay. Remember, the Nazi's most famous racial prejudice was against Jews, but they also sent gypsies, the mentally and physically disabled, and homosexuals to concentration camps. Thus, why he was never a Nazi, as he agreed with their views on human life, but not on gay rights.
- ...a former colleague or student of Dr. Richtofen from Nazi Zombies. The Medic was secretly sent to work with Element 115 with him, but after Richtofen's disappearance (In other words, getting stuck fighting zombies with the very people he experimented on in various locations and scenarios) and the death of Dr. Maxis, the Medic stole their research on the element, worked out the problem of creating a Zombie Apocalypse, and used it to create his own Medigun technology. Given that Element 115 seemed to have healing or regeneration properties, it's plausible, and it can explain why all the other classes are so psychopathic- The Medic's continued use of the Medigun on them alters their sanity just like it did to Tank, Nikolai, and Takeo.
- Unfortunately, as a side effect of working with him for some time, along with the possibility of being exposed to Element 115, Richtofen's own erotic (and insane) behavior completely broke the Medic's mental well-being, and turned him into the Mad Doctor we see now. They both obsess in causing pain, dislike their allies, and they're both more than capable of combat. Funny how they both ended up fighting alongside a Russian and a psychotic American soldier. Though.. how the world managed to quickly recover from the zombie infestation as though nothing happened is anyone's guess.
- Alternatively, the Medic IS Richtofen. It's hinted that the Medic did in fact do some experimenting during the war, and the Medic is known not to be a Nazi - not because he considers them evil, but because they weren't going far enough. Why would someone like that make the Medigun? In absence of 115, Richtofen instead works on harnessing what Australium can do - such as letting people regenerate things that would have normally killed them - because he's more interested in finding out what the side-effects are. Who's to say extended Medigun exposure doesn't cause cancer or somesuch?
- never joined the Nazis, nor was he ever sent to the prison camps. Despite being a Jewish doctor, most of the people in his village knew his as "that crazy bird man". He made sure the people of his village knew about his experiments with non-avian animals so they would be frightened away. He also trained his birds to attack villagers he didn't like, and bring him their organs for further experimentation. He did run a small clinic, but the people would only go to him as a last resort due to his unorthodox methods and the fact he let the birds in the operating room. When WWII rolled around, Medic was the only Jew left in town. Some Nazis came to his house and demanded that he care of an injured comrade and they wouldn't send him to the camps. Not trusting them, he packed up all his birds and tools, stole the patient's skeleton as a "trophy" and got the hell out of dodge.
- Was never a "human" doctor to begin with. He's a veterinarian. With a specialty in birds, but he also dabbled with other animals. When so many doctors were shipped off to treat all the army injuries (Medic got out of it by proving to be deaf in one ear, or some other minor injury), Medic was left to take care of animals and people.
- That would explain why he had animal hearts in his refrigerator in Meet the Medic.
- the Civilian. Meet the Medic's timeframe is set just as he joined the team. The Heavy, The Scout, the Engineer, the Sniper and the Demoman were originally assigned to protect him so RED could gain exclusive access to his research. The BLU mercenaries, meanwhile, were looking to capture him to make use of his research. Both teams had the goal of finding a way to extend their employer's lifespan further, and the doctor's research in healing chemicals and an efficient way to disperse them was just the right lead to follow. The BLU team, not particularly frightened by the REDs, sent out a team of Soldiers to overwhelm them and take the Civilian to Blutarch. After the Civlian and his bodyguards are cornered in a hospital with ample supplies, he decides to make himself useful and act as their behind-the-lines doctor. However, when Heavy comes in with a chest ripped open by a rocket that never went off, he sees an opprotunity that changes his life forever.
- isn't Jewish, but his career stalled out during the Third Reich because his particular brand of Mad Doctoring wasn't in accord with Nazi ideology or one of his grandparents had a non-Germanic last name. Out of spite, he joined up with a group of resistance fighters, and became the first person to perform a heart-lung transplant outdoors during a Central European winter, among other accomplishments.
- Formerly employed by HYDRA. After all, the Nazis could be so tediously dogmatic about their political ideology, often to the detriment of scientific progress.
- originally from East Germany, and a practitioner of Soviet Super Science. Why else would The Heavy, who's probably old enough to have seen the results of Nazi occupation firsthand, be prepared to work with him?
- I was thinking that this dude was an East German! It explains why him and the Heavy work very well together (Besides in Game Mechanics); He was never a Nazi, He was always a Communist! —Dingo Walley
- Probably the Medic fled Germany because of the Nazis, went to the Soviet Union, since it was a Communist country and he was confident, that they would eventually free Germany from the Nazis. He learned Russian, joined the Army or the Army intelligence to develop Super Weapons for the Red Army. He also met and befriended Heavy, who was a young volunteer back then. But, in the end, he grew dissatisfied with the Communist regime and also by the lack of Scientific possibilities (probably his Scientific progress was hindered by political meddling, not really uncommon back then). The problems got worse and worse, for him and Heavy, so in the end, he had to flee, taking all his stuff and Heavy with him (including the skeleton of some particular vicious KGB torturer) and went to the enemy of the Soviet Union, the USA (it didn't matter for him at that point, either, because he either abandoned Communism, or he thought, that the Soviet Union has betrayed Marx). The Soviets were, of course, hyper-pissed, revoked his medical license and sentenced him and Heavy to death in absentia, but they were both not important enough for the KBG to assassinate him, alternatively.
- somebody not even the Nazis could stomach. His inhumanity was so great that even Hitler's goons had a hard time dealing with him, and sent police officers after him to catch him and execute him. That, or they didn't appreciate his abduction and dissection of their personnel, especially the Aryans. The Medic is good with weaponry mainly because he had to outfight the Nazi police, and his captives, if the aforementioned dissections actually happened.
- ...rejected by the Nazis because...Nazi doctors wanted to become gods, by controlling men's lives and creating death. Medic just wanted to be human, and create gods by controlling death... Am I right, or just plain awesome?!''
- "...working for the Nazi's but never really being one. Many of the doctors and mad scientists of Nazi Germany (including the most (in-)famous of them) didn't care or didn't believe in the Nazi race ideology, they just were glad to be given victims for their crazed experiments, not caring of the religion of the victim's mother, the country they called home, or the color of their skin. A meat sack is a meat sack that you can cut into.
- turning Heavy into a cyborg. As noted on the Team Fortress 2 Nightmare Fuel page, listening to the new voice clips you get the impression that Medic is becoming even more unhinged than how unhinged he was previously. He's also started acting like kind of a robot fanboy, declaring that "the flesh is weak." And Heavy's voice has become a little... weird. Deeper, hoarser... and almost, dare I say... metallic? And he notes that he's getting "too old and giant for this." Maybe Medic has started turning Heavy into a cyborg from the inside out, just because he cares about him so much. If robots are so much better, it's better to be a robot, right? Plus, Medic often depends on Heavy to protect him, and would want him to be as strong as possible. And if he'd like to eventually turn the entire team into cyborgs, he'd probably choose to experiment on Heavy first, as in "Meet the Medic", because Heavy is the strongest member of the team and also might willingly volunteer as his friend's guinea pig. And if not, he might just let down his guard around Medic long enough for Medic to knock him out and put some robot parts in him. However, it's actually not going as well as Medic had hoped, thus Heavy's feeling of getting old. And the robot parts weigh a lot, thus "too... giant". And Medic has started roboticizing parts of his speech/respiratory system, which means he's started to sound like a robot.
- Medic is Older than They Look A side effect of his Medigun research and medical experimentation on himself was that it halted or slightly reversed his aging. Keep in mind that the Medic has inate regenerative powers, similar to Wolverine, able to rapidly recover from any wound that doesn't outright kill him. Most likely the result of experimenting on himself with some sort of super-soldier serum. That could easily have slowed down his aging process.
- The person responsible for perfecting the Clone-O-Matic.
- Creating a clone army to counter Gray Mann's Robot Army. He's using his "Fancy Job" likely curing stuff like Cancer or fatal wounds for extremely rich clients, to fund a project to clone the entire team and send the waves of clones at Gray Mann. (Cue Imperial March).
- Sabotaging Team Fortress Classic. He inserting three baboon uteri into the Classic Demoman without his knowledge, and implied that he has also sewed baboon uteri into other members of the Team Fortress Classic crew. Although Medic claims that the uteri are perfectly safe, who knows what else he put into the mercs without their consent? He's preparing for the inevitable showdown between his old team and the Classic mercs and, secretly still rooting for his friends, is inserting various things into the Classic mercs that will hinder their performance. Just wait until Classic Heavy's heart explodes while he fires his machine gun because he didn't know that Medic stuck something in there while claiming it to be "the stuff of progress".
- Providing evidence for this theory: Gray attacked Rottenburg, Medic's home town. He didn't attack anyone else's…and then there's the issue of A Cold Day In Hell being the first media since Meet The Medic where Archimedes is missing. If Gray attacking Rottenburg was meant to be taken personally, or if he's behind Archimedes' disappearance, it's even more ammo for revenge.
- He didn't given them new hearts either, and we all know what happens to a normal heart when Ubercharged, he might have done it to their Heavy, to prove it can be done, then given the rest nonfunctional uber implants letting him sweep their entire death with a Medigun that's effectively a Touch of Death.
- We'll probaby have a scene where the teams confront one another, and where Medic will tell his old team to "make him proud" as they fight.
- The Team Fortress Classic Medic.. Expanding on the above, the "TFC Medic" Is TF 2 medic before he lost his medical license, gave up pretending not to be insane, or maybe just lost it and left, and started more overt experiments resulting in the Uber Heart and Medigun, among others such as the revive system. He was completely honest when he said he wanted to test his "Triumphs" against his "Earlier Experiments". He never said which is which.
The Mediguns are less "Medicine Guns" and more of an "Immune System Overclockers"
I'm mostly basing this on the use of the word "Voltage" when the Medic is talking about using the Uber device on the Heavy's heart. We all know that our brain send electrical signals to the rest of our bodies to tell it to do stuff. It's not too much of a stretch that the Medic designed a gun that speeds up the use of the "Fix the broken parts" signals or something to that effect. This overclocking also allows the patient's body to work harder than normal, allowing their body to take more bullets than normally possible (Overheal). Each respective Ubercharge is the result of each of the Medigun's use of amplifying the voltage.
Medigun: Amplified voltage is unleashed unto
the Medic and their patient themselves, along with their brain signals. This also (somehow) makes an outward magnetic affect that nullifies bullets, rockets, etc. Stuff like the sandman's baseball are also worthless due to a physical shell that the charge creates with the voltage, explaining why the characters become metallic looking.
Kritzkreig: Amplified voltage flows directly to the patient's arms and weapons. Melee attack become crits because the patient's brain is sending stronger signals to the swings. Guns shoot crits because the voltage melds with the bullets, so you are essentially shooting electricity. This happens at random due to residue voltage left by the mediguns when they heal normally. This medigun charges its uber quicker due to not needing less voltage as it is only directed at the patient's hands and what's in them.
The Quick-Fix: Wordof God
claims that the first Ubercharge made by the Quick-Fix shorted out its Uber device, so it can't be recreated with this medigun. As a result, the Medic tried to see what he could salvage from the old proto-type a few years after he had made the proper Medigun designed to withstand the Ubercharge. Instead of overclocking the healing system to the point of overheal, Medic tried to see what else he could manage with extra volts. The result? The ability to speed himself up so as to keep up with the Scout, faster overall healing, and a quicker Ubercharge fill. The ubercharge puts a magnetic barrier around his and his patient's feet, keeping them from being blown away or slown down. It also makes the healing 300% more efficient, but not strong enough to create an overheal.
are microscopic robots that are made to heal their patients. In Doctor Who
they are shown to have amazing healing abilities including making an amputee grow her leg back instantly. The red/blue streams that come out of the mediguns are swarms of nanogenes. Nanogenes also enhance their users' abilities, hence the Ubercharges.
The Medic cloned his doves.
We've seen he has several doves, but we've only heard the name of one, Archimedes. Perhaps in his zeal for science he cloned Archimedes to make more doves for study, and thus they are all
Not from Germany
and probably never even been there. He's from a German family, but was raised in a place where the most prominent language was English, thus explaining the jumbled accent-This might also be true for the Spy, but replacing German with French.
Was an ER surgeon
not a crazed scientist too crazy for Hitler
The Medic is the son of Gustav Ehrismann.
On the map pl_badwater, the numbers 991941 are on a wall. If you convert it into a date (9/9/1941) you get september 9th, 1941. It just so happens that that's the date a German professor by the name of Gustav Adolf Ehrismann died. Coincidence? I think NOT!
The Sniper is...
- ...secretly female. This may explain why her first name's unknown. It also doesn't help that her taunt move is very feminine.(waving, yep)
- She could be a female in disguise/plastic surgery. And Jarate? She just gets someone else to do it for her.
- No, her aim is just that good.
- ...part-british. This may explain why his accent's more cockney than Australian. Perhaps he's related to the infamous aging superspy, Bruno Lawrie... this may also be why he hates The Spy.
- ...a Kiwi. He pretends to be from Australia rather than from New Zealand, because if he didn't, Saxton Hale would probably murder him.
- ...Scout's father. He hates the Spy so much because his wife - the Scout's mother - left him for the Spy.
- ...Cody's Father. Sniper is a neglectful (or divorced) dad. It idly and cleanly connects Team Fortress 2 to the Disney Animated Canon.
- Alternately, the Sniper is vaguely related to McLeach, which is why his father severely disapproves of the Sniper's career choice.
- ...Pirelli's descendant. Apparently, the "Piss-In-Jars" thing runs in the family, only Sniper found a somewhat more practical use for it.
- The first white people to reach Australia were Englishmen, who sent convicted criminals there. Pirelli had a child, who grew up to be a criminal. The child was eventually sent to a prison colony in Australia.
- ...Bushwacker Bob's son. When the Sniper says "put Mum on the phone" he wasn't taking about his mother, but his grandmother.
- ...the child of Eustace and Muriel. They live in the middle of Nowhere and Everything Is Trying to Kill You. Eustace also seems the vindictive type who just harps on what a crazed gunman his son is.
- They live in the middle of Nowhere, Kansas, but many Australians have Scottish Ancestry... so... Huh. Maybe Muriel has an aunt?
- ...Saxton Hale’s brother. Think about it for a second. Why would Saxton, a hunter himself, who has, in the past demonstrated a cheery, callous disregard for the life of animals, children and hippies… a man who has been in a romantic relationship with the most murderous, hateful woman in existence, who —gleefully supplies her with deadly weapons for the sole, express purpose of killing human beings — disapprove so heartily of Sniper’s career? They both deal in murder. If anything, their relationship smacks of sibling rivalry, someone ribbing his little brother for not having the guts to punch a Spy rather than shoot him, but helping him out just the same.◊ Saxton looks so much older because of all that Australium-induced testosterone. As for their parents, they disapprove of Saxton’s career, and had pinned all their hopes for their fading future on their seemingly more taciturn and compliant youngest son, hopes which were summarily dashed when he chose a similar career to his brother.
- Relatedly: Sniper is the inventor of Jarate. Saxton’s too much of a fisticuffs kinda guy to have come up with this idea, but Sniper demonstrated it… on him… Saxton Hale : The events of this comic actually happened… to me!, then sold him the rights in exchange for a 75% cut of the profits and an endorsement deal.
- ...a dhampir. Just look at his teeth and his vampire hunting item set.
- ...a person with a passion for knitting. In one of the Christmas cards, he gives BLU Scout a handknitted jumper, and one of his game items is a sweater vest. Perhaps he knits in his spare time.
- Australia’s known for their sheep, makes sense. Maybe once he retires he invents Uggs?
- ...someone with more than a few issues. His domination lines would indicate severe rage problems.
- ...Wesley. We only know his last name (Mundy), so this should be his first name. Why? Because Wesley snipes.
- Jack, Rick, or Dick. The two first being variations of The Danza, the last a reference to the character of which Sniper is a demented Expy. Jake is another popular Australian name, and close to "Jack". He could also be called Vic, a reference to his ending up as the victim in many "Meet the" vids, or Nick, a name he may not want to be called by, because some other bearer of that name might be listening...
- ...called Lawrence. He has an item set called 'Lawrence of Australia' after all.
- ... named Barry With his surname “Mundy” his name becomes “Barry Mundy”, which sounds like Barramundi, a type of Australian fish.
- ... nicknamed Larry. Because, as we've learned, the writer's cannot pass up the opportunity for a punny name.
- ...Blind Without 'Em. In Meet the Pyro, you might assume he's disoriented from the smoke and collision with the ground, but he really can't see without his glasses. That's also why he never takes them off when wearing another glasses misc.
- ...a murderer who killed his wife by bludgeoning her to death with a golf trophy. Doesn't his statement in "Meet the Sniper" about blokes with feelings smack a bit too much of Suspiciously Specific Denial? He joined the team to escape capture or as part of a plea bargain.
- I like this one. But possibly he knows somebody who bludgeoned their wife to death with a golf trophy? Possibly that was a family member or close friend? And then he ran five miles away and shot them.
- ...South Australian. In the Sniper vs. Spy update, his parents address is revealed to be Adelaide Street. It's possible that this is yet another 'Adelaide has only one street' joke.
- The Scout's biological father: Body structure is similar, jarringly so in a few pieces of concept arthere◊. Facial structure is pretty close, and if you take a look at Sniper's mom, people familiar with hair colors can tell she very likely used to be a lighter shade of brown, or possibly dirty blonde- much like a speedy Bostonian we know.
- ...using his professional standards as a mask. He tries to appear cool, calm and collected, but behind his confident demeanor is a man so insecure about himself, so afraid of failure and rejection, that he would rather live in his van in quiet loneliness than be seen as a disappointing failure by anyone else he cares about. He's never made friends. He's a virgin. His father has always disapproved of him his whole life. He convinces himself he doesn't need emotional ties to anyone except his Mum.
The Spy is
- ...“a Double Reverse Quadruple Agent …” In his old trading card bio◊, it says that the Spy “knows the byzantine details of who really runs things.” This may still hold true. He could be working as a double-agent for both RED and BLU while reporting to the Administrator… (he may have been the man who delivered her message to the soldier) but none of those could be where his true allegiance lies… so, just who is the Spy?
- Bidwell? In "A Fate Worse Than Chess", we get a clear look at Bidwell, slim figure, distinctive eyes, elongated face, long-suffering... we also get a clear look at the Spy, who shares the shape of his face and eyes.
- Reddy? But just how did Reddy learn about the end of the Gravel Wars? Short and fat though Reddy is, The Spy can be anything and anyone.
- ...a descendant of Silas Mann?
- ...a descendant of the unseen man?
- ...the head of SpyTech Industries?
- ...working for any/all of the above?
- Related: Miss Pauling is Spy’s daughter, and Scout’s half-sister. Spy took her in, taught her well, and relies on her skills as The Mole to be his eyes and ears at TF Industries.
- Makani posted a drawing on her livejournal of Spy with dark hair- she's since been hired, so that similarity could well be canon.
- ...suffering from Chronic Backstabbing Disorder - Oh so very check. He's a "double reverse quadruple agent," after all.
- ...Pyro's twin. Think about it. They have the same voice actor, and they happen to be the biggest counter/countered combo in the game. It's clear they hate each other from years of sibling rivalry. And if you want to explain the purse, maybe they both came from the same village Bridget was from, and Pyro was the designated girl.
- ...a woman. It would be damn near impossible for a woman to be hired for an otherwise all-male mercenary team in the 1950's and '60's, no matter how good she was at Spy-ness. The obvious response to being scorned in that fashion would be to invent a new male persona, get hired, and then spite your employer by never really being on their side.
- Spy's certainly the only class to have tiny womanly—er, I mean, realistically proportioned hands compared to everyone else (including Scout).
- When he refers to the Scout's mother as "ma petite chou fleur," notice how he uses the feminine ma instead of the masculine mon.
- French possessives are related to the object of the sentence ("chou fleur", in this case), not to the person speaking. (Though "chou fleur" is actually masculine, so it should be "mon petit chou fleur". But that's going off-topic.)
- ...involved in the project that created Agent 47. He's very likely bald, given the snug fit of his balaclava, he wears extremely well-tailored suits to the battlefield, and he assassinates people via infiltration and disguises. Sounds like anybody else we know?
- ...a descendant of Altair Stealthiness, assassination skills, all that jazz.
- ...Lupin III Why not? Lupin lived in the time period, is at least half French, and has a pretty good track record with the ladies. One or more of the other classes work for him as well.
- ...Diabolik's teacher.
- ...Ocelot * Revolver – check,
- ...Glass Joe. Maybe connected to the Soda/Heavy theory . They're both French, have all the Defense properties of cheese, and quite honestly, who would ever suspect a meek feeble wuss like Joe of being a suave, sexy Badass who slept with your mother? There is a glass jaw under that mask...
- ...Leonard Cohen. Not only does he have the suit, but this troper worked for a Fancy Fedora just because of how much the ensemble fits Leonard Cohen. They both have gravelly voices that can make a woman wet. Cohen was born in Montreal, which could explain the occasional French words.
- ...an unevolved Ditto. Think about it, the Spy can shape-shift, much like a Ditto, but only into 8 other forms, as well as turn invisible for a few moments. Also note that when he bursts into flames, he burns with his original color, which a regular Ditto wouldn't, and he cant use any of the moves that his other forms have, which a Ditto would be able to.
- ...always crying in-front of rainbows. Rainbows make HIM cry, not Scout. HE used his deepest sorrow as a taunt for the scout.
- The Pyromania update offers a Fridge Brilliance moment for this - the Pyro sees his flamethrowers as spewing rainbows, not flames. Of course rainbows make the Spy cry; they're his greatest weakness!
- ...Not actually French. He's just faking it to hide his true identity further, look cool, and pick up Scout's mother. In actuality, he has either a Bostonian, Texan, or whatever-Pyro-has-accent.
- secretly an agent of the United States Government, sent to investigate the circumstances of the Forever War.
- The one who stole the Australium and called the Team back together. He's currently tailing Helen.
- ...Far less professional than he'd like to admit. Listen to his Un Evil Laugh and his juvenile insults. His classiness is well put on, but in the heat of battle it slips a bit.
- ...the proud owner of a classy moustache. Frenchmen are often seen as posessing thin oiled moustaches. Maybe Spy has a Badass Moustache under his balaclava.
- ...of Arabian descent. His Saharan Spy set and Assassin's Creed promotional items lend some credence here.
- He could be also from either Tunesia or Egypt, since both are Arab countries with a lot of people speaking French (both were former French colonies).
- ...Scout's Mom.
- ...a Doctor Who fan. The Familiar Fez and Doctor Whoa are part of his 11th Doctor cosplay.
- ...the victim of serious burns to his face by a Pyro. Seeing as he has a distinctive profile and the mask doesn't cover much of his face, the mask most likely isn't to keep his enemies from knowing his identity but rather to hide the severe scars.
- Olivia Mann. Tavish said it himself: Spy could be disguised as anything. Maybe he really is Gray's son.
- ...Every single Spy in the game, at the same time. On both teams. He's just that good. All the terrible Spies you see are just to throw you off.
And that is enough to fool the other team.
- That's why it takes so much less time to put on a disguise compared to in TFC.
- It's also why fire renders the spy's disguise completely useless; paper burns!
- The other team all see it as such, they just pretend otherwise because they don't want to hurt his feelings.
- Or they're all insane (or stupid) enough to fall for it.
The Spy used to be someone’s Butler
Or rather an agent who’s cover was that of someone’s butler. He was assigned to monitor a wealthy Boston businessman who’s company was opposed to Mann Co. With years of careful planning and monitoring, spy was able to pick off the man’s heirs one by one, until only his “employer” was left. When he finally did that one in, he realized he forgot a disowned son who had “married below his status”. He shows up to find this son already dead by the hands of his exasperated wife. And that’s how Spy met Scout’s mother!
The Spy has Bene Gesserit training
- That's why he can be seen as just another mercenary by the other team with nothing but a paper plate for a disguise
Meet The Team
Meet the Engineer
The 3rd sentry gun that shot out missles killed 2 people at once
How else would you explain the counting machine to go from 210 to 214?
- It's the Level 2 one that made 2 kills. I heard the Kill counter click two times. Just check the transcript.
The Engineer dies shortly after the video ends.
The last shot of it zooming out on his nest to show the approaching Blu army, including a Medic and a Demoman
, both on the high ground and with reasonable cover.
Meet the Spy
The RED Spy broke character before he dropped the act.
Specifically, when the BLU Spy revealed the pictures of him fucking the BLU Scout's mother. That wasn't a son finding out his mama was sleeping with the enemy.
It was a secret lover caught in the act.
Thankfully, the others thought it was the BLU Scout shocked and embarrassed about the pictures, so he managed to avoid blowing his cover.
Wait a minute... Scout's Mom...
Let's think about this for a minute, the pictures of her in Meet the Spy show her as incredibly young and hot. And she's the mother of eight children? Of which Scout (who, according to the Track Terrorizer description, is 23) is the *youngest?* Either she started having babies at a really young age (like 15 or so), and reeeally went out of her way to stay in shape, or there is something going on here... anyone have any theories?
- She could have had Multiples on one or more occasions. It's a lot easier to reach eight kids if you pop out three in one go. Maybe Scout was the only one of her Children who DIDN'T have a twin.
- Of course he has a twin, there ARE two scouts aren't there? The third one is an intellectual in college, since his brothers picked on him in their youth since he was more interested in reading than baseball.
- My theory was always that BLU Scout is a clone of RED Scout, same goes for all the other classes. This explains why they are able to respawn and why there can be multiple of the same class on a team, they're all being cloned.
- The picture could be from before the Scout and his brothers were born.
- The Scout seems to be from a lower-class family, which would support the theory that his mother had many children at a young age.
- Adoption could also be a factor.
In Meet the Spy, the RED Spy was actually the BLU Spy with a dead ringer.
The RED Spy also had been using Eternal Reward to disguise himself as the BLU Spy. Once he was killed, he snuck around and stabbed the Scout, disguising himself as the Scout.
During the Meet the Spy video, both Spies were working together.
The BLU Spy was secretly a double liver gambit.
- It's no secret that Spies are far from trustworthy. (See his conversation with the BLU Scout.) Notice how he goes on this extensive rant on how incredibly dangerous the enemy spy is...right after he gave the BLU Scout-actually the RED Spy-back the knife without a second thought, a terribly dangerous thing to do in such a situation, even if he didn't know who the RED Spy was. The explanation was that he was planning to defect to the other team and hoped that the RED Spy was in the room. In a way, the Soldier was right.
- In addition the BLU Spy had a Dead Ringer equipped, which is why he was so easy to kill, and he escaped using his invisibility after the Soldier blew his cover.
- With the new Polycount items, something else is also possible in that it's just the same spy with 2 knives. BLU Spy is RED Spy, using a Dead Ringer and Your Eternal Reward. After getting "killed" by the Soldier, he runs off, decloaks, Uses Eternal Reward on BLU Scout, then gets his regular knife back.
In Meet the Spy, the BLU Spy knew the Scout was the disguised RED Spy all along.
The BLU Spy knows that he's on the losing team. He decides that, in order to send a message, he has to defeat his counterpart in a particularly embarrassing fashion. To start, he out-Spied the Spy, catching him mid-coitus. The woman wasn't actually the Scout's mom (does she look like someone who's had 8 kids?), but the BLU Spy showed the pictures to the RED Spy in order to let him know that he had been outplayed. The BLU Spy claimed that she was the Scout's mom to psyche him out without blowing his cover (the BLU Spy wanted to watch his doppleganger squirm for a bit). The recounting of the RED Spy's exploits was just to toy with him. Unfortunately, the BLU Soldier intervened at the last second, just before he was ousted.
- Taking this further: the Soldier was the RED Spy all along. He knew that the BLU Spy knew who he was, and was planning to reveal this information after finishing his speech, but shot said Spy immediately before he could. (This also explains why the BLU Spy died instantly - the RED Spy used the Ambassador.) When it became evident that the BLU Spy was not a traitor, he tried to send the Heavy on a wild goose chase to find the "real" RED spy, so that he could slip away with the Intelligence. However, the Scout had figured out that the Soldier was a spy by seeing the difficulty with which the Soldier had figured out the password to the intelligence room, and tried to sneak up on him. Thus, the RED Spy was forced to drop his disguise, kill the Scout - as well as the Heavy, who was now a witness - and depart with the Intelligence and the pictures of Scout's mom.
- Then how were the Soldier and the Red Spy seen together?
- Simple: there was another RED Spy, this one cloaked, in the room at the time. He knew that his buddy had infiltrated the intelligence room disguised as a BLU, but he didn't know which class. When he saw the Scout sneaking up on the other two, he made the same conclusion that the viewers did, decloaked, backstabbed the Heavy, and was about to do the same to the not!Soldier. At this point, however, the Scout (who never considered the fact that there might be multiple RED Spies) decided that he had been wrong in his appraisal of the soldier, and unleashed an almighty batting on the second RED Spy. The first RED Spy, the one disguised as a Soldier, displayed absolutely no gratitude and promptly backstabbed the Scout, leaving with the Intelligence.
- No, you see the Heavy was yet another RED Spy. Everyone in the room at the time was, in fact, a RED Spy, and there were several RED Spies Cloak and Daggered throughout the room. The montage of RED Spy backstabs was actually showing the enemies that each of the spies took out on their way to the Intelligence Room (with several left out for time reasons). The only individual who was not actually a RED Spy was the BLU Spy. He never got to finish his last statement. He was going to say, "It could even be all of you," but the Soldier Spy intervened too quickly.
- Then how is there killing noise at the outro if everyone is a spy?
In Meet the Spy, the BLU Spy had the Dead Ringer.
Shortly after the video ends, he decloaks and there's an epic fight between the two Spies; it was cut from the final video because the budget ran out.
- It would explain how he instantly gets killed by a Shotgun.
But what if the Dead Ringer hadn't existed at all? The BLU Spy would be afflicted with...
. If you touch anythingnote
, you'd die
. And the BLU spy was hit by shotgun fire to the head, therefore, among the many EXAGGERATED ways a character can die (getting so fatally numb from touching anything that you gain a literal black line across your eyes, incineration from a small laser bolt when it should cause a small burn, getting FROZEN TODAY from a snowball when it should just feel cold at the impact point, getting electrocuted from small un-bubbled electricity when it should be a tingle)
ly quickly cause Your Head A Splode
, as if his body wouldn't
poof away into magic dust, which does not happen in the TF2 world
explode anyway. This would of course deny the possibility that any one of us would see his eyes getting crossed off by a literal black line. Squicky
and potentially disgusting detail: Whatever cross-out line the spy would have would probably be on whatever skin fragments that got peeled off his face during the shotgun blast. Ick indeed.
The RED Spy didn't kill the BLU Scout in Meet The Spy
He knocked him out and stuffed him in a closet. After all, it would make his relationship with BLU Scout's mother
awkward, and he does have a genuine affection for her.
- Unlikely; after killing the Engineer and walking into the "always keep this door closed" room, he fired another shot...
- Which could have been fired at Demoman or Pyro.
- Probably the Demo (no way he'd have done so well if one of those cloak-revealing bastards were present)
- Consider this: Meet the Spy and Meet the Sniper happened together in the same 'episode'. The RED Sniper killed the BLU Scout offscreen, allowing the RED Spy to take his place.
- Makes sense, except for one thing - if the BLU Soldier shot the BLU Spy, then how could the RED Sniper have backstabbed him?
- Dead ringer. Both times.
- This Troper thinks that the RED Spy didn't get a chance to kill the BLU Scout because the BLU Scout was busy on the front lines.
- According to these comics, the BLU Scout was dead by the time the RED Spy chose to disguise as him. Whether or not he was killed by the RED Spy remains unknown.
- He could just be unconscious...
In Meet the Spy, the BLU Scout wasn't always the RED Spy. The Scout was killed in the middle of the BLU Spy's monologue
This explains why was the Scout able to touch the briefcase, and the fact that he gets pissed when shown pictures of his mother. Kinda sounds like Shut Up, Hannibal!
- So, you're saying that that's NOT what your reaction would be if someone showed you pictures they secretly took of you having sex?
The person seen in the photos in "Meet the Spy" wasn't actually the Scout's mother, but a disguised Spy
In the pictures, the RED Spy was actually the BLU Spy being a triple agent, only to find out that Scout's mother was a RED Spy, who then stabbed him with Eternal Reward, disguising himself as the BLU Spy. Then, "Gentlemen?" Cue titlecard of Meet the Spy.
Everyone was a Spy.
Soldier's gun used the Spy's Ambassador's sound effect.
Scout's mom is a triplet. Her sisters are Cate Archer
and Flo from the Progressive commercials.
Cate looks like Scoutmama if she decided to become a spy herself, and Flo looks as if she's cosplaying Scoutmama. It's the hair.
He seems to be the only member of the team without a severe mental disorder, He could even be perfectly aware that RED and BLU are the same company, but his paycheck is enough to keep him quiet.
Meet the Medic
Heavy had a spare
The Demoman's eye really did grow back.
But since he never takes off his eye patch, he couldn't tell the difference.
- Or he can tell, but he keeps the eyepatch on because he thinks it makes him look cool.
Archimedes is the reason why the Scout double-jumps
And in general, Archimedes would aid in the aerial mobility of the Scout after being accidentally shut inside his chest cavity. To add to this, an Atomizer Scout can triple-jump but take a bit of damage, which to this WMG would mean that Archimedes would push hard against the Scout's chest. Furthermore, there is a chance that a flying dove would emerge from any gibbed Scout.
Archimedes is immortal.
Well, it's that or the doves are all
Archimedes, one at a time
. Considering the Medic, either is possible.
The Medigun can stay Ubered for as long as the Medic wants.
It just breaks if he uses it for too long, which explains the 12 second Uber in Meet the Medic, so the Quick-Fix can't invuln, and the regular Medigun can only Uber for 8 seconds because the Medic doesn't want to risk breaking it again.
The Medic really does care about healing, and it's not (as his bio states) a wholly unintended side effect.
Healing means he can do more things to a given patient before they die
. He actually devotes energy toward finding devices that can heal (such as the Medigun, and the Medigun Prototype that was in his lab as of Meet The Medic
). If his patients die on the operating table, he can't leeeeaaarrrn
as much from them that he couldn't learn from slightly less fresh cadavers. Therefore, he lied about healing only being unintended side effects; they're a means to an end, but at the very least, his earlier results of healing mechanisms were fully intentional.
- He cares about his patients not dying. Healing is an unintended side effect of that. It does sound crazy, but he is a mad doctor after all.
It (surprisingly) takes a lot for these guys to kill people who aren't the opposite team, according to the comics. For example, one was (as far as they could tell) spying on them and the people/things that were important to them, one was a child-abducting Australian Santa, etc. We know they're psychopaths, but they have limits. Maybe the patient was a high-ranking SS member or something, Medic disagreed with what they were doing, and felt like experimenting on him was justified.
- Related: When Medic stole the catering van at the "Prime Minister's wedding", it was actually the wedding of Adolf Hitler and Ava Braun. He proceeded to run them over with the catering truck.
- Nonsense. Germany doesn't have and never had a Prime Minister. The German head of state is called the Chancellor ever since the Weimarer Republic (and prior to that, during the German Empire from 1871-1918, it had an Emperor and a Chancellor). Medic being present at a Prime Minister's wedding indicates that episode happened in the UK. And why would the Medic need to steal a catering van? Easy: a catering van has refrigeration units. Black market organ trafficking, anyone?
- Several other countries (Canada, Australia, Finland, Azerbaijan, etc.) have P Ms, so it wasn't necessarily in the UK. Knowing TF 2 it was probably Australia.
The Scout has an antelope or gazelle heart in him.
It makes him speedy, and doesn't have all the blockage and rads/caffeine that years of unhealthy beverages and cheap food have given him. If the Heavy's heart exploded, how could the Scout's heart withstand the "upgrade"?
- And I think he got the Loch Ness Hamster one.
The Soldier has a gorilla's heart
The Pyro has a dragon's heart
The Demoman has a cyclops' heart
The Sniper has a crocodile's heart
Heavy's heart exploded because it was full of plaque and cholesterol.
Many sandvich no good for heart health. Vodka, better, but maaaay
be not good for a strong physical
heart. Scout's heart is totally fine because of all the cardio he does, and the fact that his cola has totally mutated him into a super-cool rabbit-heart-mutant thing- Erm
. Because of all the cardio he does.
Medic doesn't get an awful lot of sleep.
He has rather obvious dark circles around his eyes
in "Meet the Medic". None of the other classes look like that, so it must be significant
. Do you know what keeps him up at night
? After hearing people whining for him to come heal them
all day, he hallucinates
that he can still hear them
at night. So think about that before the next time you spam E
because it amuses you
, or you like your class's voice, or it's a tic
, or you've forgotten that the Medic does not hand out ammo, or...
The Medic is an ex- Depraved Dentist.
He got into it because he enjoyed hurting people. Then he found out that being a mercenary doctor lets you hurt people even more.
Pyro supplies Medic with the bases for the mediguns
They look like modified firehoze nozzles. Maybe Pyro picks them up for him when s/he goes out to troll the Teufort fire department.
- Actually, according to the Pyromania update Teufort doesn't seem to have a fire department.
Demoman has something
to do with the Loch Ness Hamster
Meet The Medic is set earlier than most of the 'meet the' videos and the game
This is the video that introduced the ubercharge, a game mechanism that's been there for quite a while, and it would explain why everybody's apparently fine with sitting near The Dreaded
Pyro- they haven't really seen said teammate in action yet
- The Meet the Medic video being a prequel isn't even speculation, it's simply a fact. In fact, the original first draft of the video (which was scrapped half-completed) was set even earlier and showed the invention of the first medigun. It can be seen in the official Meet the Medic Outtakes posted on Valve's Team Fortress 2 blog ("Meet the Medic: Behind the Scenes") and their YouTube channel.