Trivia / Batman Forever

  • Actor Allusion: After the Batcave is destroyed, Batman is left to choose between a boat and an aircraft to go after the Riddler. You just know Val Kilmer would pick the aircraft.
  • Actor-Inspired Element: Jim Carrey helped design a lot of his costumes.
  • All-Star Cast: The movie had some of the biggest sluggers in the business on the cast at time of release, particularly Carrey, Kidman and Jones.
  • Awesome, Dear Boy: Val Kilmer jumped at the chance to play Batman, signing on without having read the script or knowing who the director was.
  • Beam Me Up, Scotty!: Folks, nowhere in this movie does Batman say "Chicks dig the car"; it's what Robin says in the Call-Back to this movie in Batman & Robin. What Batman actually says is:
    Batman: It's the car, right? Chicks love the car.
  • Breakaway Pop Hit: U2's "Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me". Inverted with Seal's "Kiss From A Rose" (it was released the year before, but only became a smash hit after its inclusion) - the music video heavily featured the film.
  • B-Team Sequel: To the two Tim Burton-helmed Batman films.
  • Dawson Casting: Chris O'Donnell is 25 playing a character that, at this stage of the storyline, is supposed to be a tween at the oldest. Bruce Wayne does suggest he's around college age, but still...
  • Executive Meddling: See What Could Have Been below.
  • Fake American: Jim Carrey, Canadian by birth, as Riddler. Also, Aussie Nicole Kidman.
  • Hostility on the Set:
    • The working relationship between director Joel Schumacher and actor Val Kilmer was said to be very, very bad. Tellingly, Joel does not talk much about Val in his audio commentary for the film.
    • There were also reports that Tommy Lee Jones disliked Jim Carrey, so much so that he wouldn't even have lunch with him. According to Carrey, the first time he met Jones, the veteran actor growled, "I do not sanction your buffoonery." Which is funny considering Jones would spend his entire screentime trying to out-ham the ham master Carrey.
  • Missing Trailer Scene: In multiple trailers, there is a scene where Two-Face says "If the Bat wants to play, we'll play!" This line/scene never made into the theatrical release. The line was even used in the Genesis/SNES video game adaptation of the film.
  • Old Shame: Only if you read it out of context. Val Kilmer enjoyed working on this film and everyone involved (Schumacher possibly excluded, see Troubled Production below) and would have been interested in returning once his schedule cleared up, but (fortunately for him) Batman & Robin continued without him. But he was quoted as saying "I've done an absurdly commercial cartoon and now I'm more likely to get hired for a job I couldn't get hired for before because I hadn't done enough movies. It's so rare when an actor gets hired because he's right for the role, it just doesn't figure into it." (In Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Kilmer's character Perry shows up and says virtually the same thing to Robert Downey, Jr..)
  • Orphaned Reference: The title seems odd to many audience members until they realize it is in reference to a line of dialogue that was in a deleted scene.
  • The Other Darrin: Two of them!
    • Val Kilmer replaced Michael Keaton, who bowed out as Bruce Wayne/Batman after seeing — and disliking — the Lighter and Softer treatment.
    • Tommy Lee Jones replaced Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent/Two-Face. Contrary to popular belief, Williams was only contracted for one Bat-film to begin with (that being, of course, Batman), and did not have his contract bought out, nor was he ever even approached about playing Two-Face (until The LEGO Batman Movie, at least).
    • In a brief third example, rather than use archive footage, the Wayne murder is re-shot with new actors.
  • Playing Against Type: Tommy Lee Jones, who usually plays stoic Deadpan Snarker type characters, even in comedic movies, here plays Two-Face as an incredibly loony, off the wall villain the 1960s Adam West Batman style.
  • Promoted Fanboy:
  • Real-Life Relative: Chris O'Donnell's sister can be seen directly behind him in the party scene where Robin is first introduced to the public.
  • Role Reprisal: In the French dub, instead of being voiced by Jim Carrey's official voice actornote , the Riddler/Edward Nygma is voiced by Vincent Violette, reprising his role from Batman: The Animated Series.
  • So My Kids Can Watch: Tommy Lee Jones signed on as Two-Face because it was his son's favourite character.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • The original version of Batman Forever, before it was edited to make it more family-friendly. Most notable is the movie originally opens with Two-Face escaping Arkham with "The Bat Must Die" scribbled in blood on the wall (making the ending visit to Riddler in Arkham Book Ends), further developing Bruce's motivations for retiring from being Batman and an entire story beat after being shot in the head where he got Laser-Guided Amnesia of being Batman and has to revisit the cavern where he first encountered a swarm of bats (a traditional part of Batman lore). The novelization retains most of these sequences, several of the cut scenes appeared in the music videos for the movie, and the comic book adaptation includes a little more violence, specifically the large pools of blood around the fallen Graysons.
    • The obvious one: both Michael Keaton and Tim Burton were in negotiations to return in their respective positions as lead actor and director. Rumors abound that Burton was Kicked Upstairs after the executives disliked the darker tone that Batman Returns had taken, and that Keaton bowed out after he learned that Burton wasn't returning. Nevertheless, Burton is credited on the movie as a producer, as he had been involved in drafting the original story.
    • The cuts also would have changed the chronology of scenes in the finished cut: The Batsignal seen by Bruce at Wayne Enterprises is being helmed by Chase in the final cut, but it would've originally summoned him to the bank after Dent escaped Arkham in the deleted opener (which would explain the sirens Bruce hears when he sees it), and the scene with Chase on the roof would've been slotted before the Batmobile chase where it climbs the wall (with redubbing done to change the location from the circus to the bank).
    • Unlike Burton, Schumacher is a life-long comic book fan and originally wanted to do a film version of Year One. He had Frank Miller's help drafting a screenplay! But the executives at Warner Bros. wanted something that could be sold to kids...
    • What would have happened had Billy Dee Williams insisted on playing Two-Face?
      • On the DVD featurettes, Williams points out that the chemicals would have made one half of his face lighter than the other, and that this would play into questions of race or whatnot.note  Williams eventually got the chance to play Two-Face in The LEGO Batman Movie.
    • Another comic book fan lobbied to be director before Schumacher was hired. His name? Sam Raimi.
    • Rene Russo was in line to play Chase Meridian when it was still believed that Michael Keaton was going to come back to play Bruce Wayne/Batman, not Val Kilmer. She was replaced by Nicole Kidman because the producers weren't comfortable with the idea of having Batman's love interest be played by an actress rather significantly older than the actor playing him. This in spite the fact Russo is only about five years older than Kilmer, who is about eight years older than Kidman. Plus, Margot Kidder was almost five years older than Christopher Reeve when they played Lois Lane and Clark Kent respectively in the Superman movies. Robin Wright, Jeanne Tripplehorn and Linda Hamilton were also offered to play Chase.
      • That being said, Keaton turned down the offer to reprise his role because he thought the script sucked, as explained in an early January 2017 interview.
    • Schumacher also initially wanted Sandra Bullock to have a role in this movie (possibly as Chase).
    • Marlon Wayans was originally set to play Robin, having been attached to the role since Batman Returns, but was bought out of his contract. Other candidates included Matt Damon, Jude Law, Ewan McGregor, Corey Haim, Corey Feldman, Toby Stephens, Mark Wahlberg and Scott Speedman.
    • Before the helm was turned to Schumacher, Burton supposedly wanted Mickey Dolenz as the Riddler, complete with a question mark carved into his forehead, natch. Carrey was planning on shaving a question mark on his head, but scrapped it because he was due in court for his divorce proceedings.
    • William Baldwin was reported to be considered for Batman. Other names considered for the part included Daniel Day-Lewis, Kurt Russell, Alec Baldwin, Ethan Hawke, Ralph Fiennesnote , Tom Hanks, Keanu Reeves and Johnny Depp.
    • Michelle Pfeiffer was considered to reprise her role as Catwoman.
    • Mel Gibson turned down the role of Two-Face in order to make Braveheart.
    • Michael Jackson was attached at one point to play the Riddler, but he was later let go. Matthew Broderick also expressed interest in the role, while Robin Williams turned it down, as he was still sore at Warner Bros. for, he felt, using him as "bait" to lure Jack Nicholson to the role of the Joker for the 1989 film. note 
    • Early concepts of the final showdown on Claw Island had a huge, muscled, Riddler sitting on his throne when Batman finds him. The Riddler twists the two skulls on his armrests and the Riddler's muscled body is revealed to be a shell which splits in two, from which the real Riddler (wearing his white and green jumpsuit) steps out. This "Big Riddle" form of the Riddler was retained for the final showdown with him in the SNES and Genesis video game adaptations.
    • When Nicole Kidman signed on, it was assumed that she'd be playing Poison Ivy. She appeared in the sequel.
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