History Trivia / BatmanForever

12th Dec '17 4:22:14 PM SpaceDrake
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* AllStarCast

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* AllStarCastAllStarCast: The movie had some of the biggest sluggers in the business on the cast at time of release, particularly Carrey, Kidman and Jones.
12th Dec '17 4:21:06 PM SpaceDrake
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*** On the DVD featurettes, Billy Dee points out that the chemicals would have made one half of his face lighter than the other, and that this would play into questions of race, or something. Williams eventually got the chance to play Two-Face in ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie''.

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*** On the DVD featurettes, Billy Dee Williams points out that the chemicals would have made one half of his face lighter than the other, and that this would play into questions of race, race or something. whatnot.[[note]]It's worth noting for context that Creator/MichaelJackson's skin-bleaching as a result of repeated cosmetic surgery and other factors was a hot-button issue attached to a ''white-hot'' burner when the movie was in production, so Williams wanting to bow out to avoid any appearance of mimicking Jackson (''doubly'' so since Jackson was up to be Riddler himself at one point) is a lot more understandable given the time period.[[/note]] Williams eventually got the chance to play Two-Face in ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie''.



** Music/MichaelJackson was attached at one point to play the Riddler, but he was ignored. Creator/MatthewBroderick also expressed interest in the role, while Creator/RobinWilliams turned it down, as he was still sore at Warner Bros. for, he felt, using him as "bait" to lure Creator/JackNicholson to the role of the Joker for [[Film/{{Batman}} the 1989 film]]. [[note]]Though Williams once claimed that the role had been offered to him and then taken away for Jim Carrey.[[/note]]

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** Music/MichaelJackson was attached at one point to play the Riddler, but he was ignored.later let go. Creator/MatthewBroderick also expressed interest in the role, while Creator/RobinWilliams turned it down, as he was still sore at Warner Bros. for, he felt, using him as "bait" to lure Creator/JackNicholson to the role of the Joker for [[Film/{{Batman}} the 1989 film]]. [[note]]Though Williams once claimed that the role had been offered to him and then taken away for Jim Carrey.[[/note]]
25th Oct '17 12:36:10 AM KJMackley
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** The [[http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_scissorpuppy_forever.html original version of]] ''[[http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_scissorpuppy_forever.html Batman Forever]]'', before it was edited to make it more family-friendly. Several of the cut scenes (notably "The Bat Must Die!" and Bruce's encounter with a giant bat) would appear in the music videos for the movie, and the comic book adaptation retains the deleted cuts while making it more violent, specifically the large pools of blood around the fallen Graysons.

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** The [[http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_scissorpuppy_forever.html original version of]] ''[[http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_scissorpuppy_forever.html Batman Forever]]'', before it was edited to make it more family-friendly. Several of Most notable is the cut scenes (notably movie originally opens with Two-Face escaping Arkham with "The Bat Must Die!" and Die" scribbled in blood on the wall (making the ending visit to Riddler in Arkham BookEnds), further developing Bruce's encounter with motivations for retiring from being Batman and an entire story beat after being shot in the head where he got LaserGuidedAmnesia of being Batman and has to revisit the cavern where he first encountered a giant bat) would appear swarm of bats (a traditional part of Batman lore). The novelization retains most of these sequences, several of the cut scenes appeared in the music videos for the movie, and the comic book adaptation retains the deleted cuts while making it includes a little more violent, violence, specifically the large pools of blood around the fallen Graysons.Graysons.
7th Oct '17 8:17:21 AM Nakayama90
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** William Baldwin was reported to be considered for Batman. Other names considered for the part included Creator/DanielDayLewis, Creator/KurtRussell, Creator/AlecBaldwin, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/RalphFiennes, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/KeanuReeves and Creator/JohnnyDepp.

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** William Baldwin was reported to be considered for Batman. Other names considered for the part included Creator/DanielDayLewis, Creator/KurtRussell, Creator/AlecBaldwin, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/RalphFiennes, Creator/RalphFiennes[[note]]Who later ended up voicing Alfred in WesternAnimation/TheLegoBatmanMovie[[/note]], Creator/TomHanks, Creator/KeanuReeves and Creator/JohnnyDepp.
7th Oct '17 8:16:23 AM Nakayama90
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** Music/MichaelJackson was attached at one point to play the Riddler, but he was ignored. Creator/MatthewBroderick also expressed interest in the role, while Creator/RobinWilliams turned it down, as he was still sore at Warner Bros. for, he felt, using him as "bait" to lure Creator/JackNicholson to the role of the Joker for [[Film/{{Batman}} the 1989 film]].

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** Music/MichaelJackson was attached at one point to play the Riddler, but he was ignored. Creator/MatthewBroderick also expressed interest in the role, while Creator/RobinWilliams turned it down, as he was still sore at Warner Bros. for, he felt, using him as "bait" to lure Creator/JackNicholson to the role of the Joker for [[Film/{{Batman}} the 1989 film]]. [[note]]Though Williams once claimed that the role had been offered to him and then taken away for Jim Carrey.[[/note]]
2nd Sep '17 12:22:00 PM Dancedom
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** Rene Russo was in line to play Chase Meridian when it was still believed that Michael Keaton was going to come back to play Bruce Wayne/Batman, not Val Kilmer. She was replaced by Nicole Kidman because the producers weren't comfortable with the idea of having Batman's love interest be played by an actress rather significantly older than the actor playing him. This in spite the fact Rene Russo is only about five years older than Val Kilmer, who is about eight years older than Nicole Kidman. Plus, Margot Kidder was almost five years older than Christopher Reeve when they played Lois Lane and Clark Kent respectively in the Superman movies.

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** Rene Russo Creator/ReneRusso was in line to play Chase Meridian when it was still believed that Michael Keaton was going to come back to play Bruce Wayne/Batman, not Val Kilmer. She was replaced by Nicole Kidman because the producers weren't comfortable with the idea of having Batman's love interest be played by an actress rather significantly older than the actor playing him. This in spite the fact Rene Russo is only about five years older than Val Kilmer, who is about eight years older than Nicole Kidman. Plus, Margot Kidder was almost five years older than Christopher Reeve when they played Lois Lane and Clark Kent respectively in the Superman movies. Creator/RobinWright, Jeanne Tripplehorn and Linda Hamilton were also offered to play Chase.
8th Aug '17 5:07:03 AM ClintEastwood
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* OrphanedReference: The title seems odd to many audience members until they realize it is in reference to a line of dialogue that was in a deleted scene.
2nd Aug '17 7:01:49 PM ClintEastwood
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* HostilityOnTheSet:
** The working relationship between director Creator/JoelSchumacher and actor Creator/ValKilmer was said to be very, very bad. Tellingly, Joel does not talk much about Val in his audio commentary for the film.
** There were also reports that Creator/TommyLeeJones disliked Creator/JimCarrey, so much so that he wouldn't even have lunch with him. According to Carrey, the first time he met Jones, the veteran actor growled, "I do not sanction your buffoonery." Which is funny considering Jones would spend his entire screentime trying to out-ham the ham master Carrey.



* TroubledProduction: The working relationship between director Creator/JoelSchumacher and actor Creator/ValKilmer was said to be very, very bad. Tellingly, Joel does not talk much about Val in his audio commentary for the film.
** There were also reports that Creator/TommyLeeJones disliked Creator/JimCarrey, so much so that he wouldn't even have lunch with him. According to Carrey, the first time he met Jones, the veteran actor growled, "I do not sanction your buffoonery." Which is funny considering Jones would spend his entire screentime trying to out-ham the ham master Carrey.
1st Jul '17 6:30:29 PM BatmanKalEl
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* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/TommyLeeJones, who usually plays stoic DeadpanSnarker type characters, here plays Two-Face as an incredibly loony, off the wall villain the 1960s Adam West Batman style.

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* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/TommyLeeJones, who usually plays stoic DeadpanSnarker type characters, even in comedic movies, here plays Two-Face as an incredibly loony, off the wall villain the 1960s Adam West Batman style.
29th Jun '17 7:08:06 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Although to be fair, the latter was born in Hawaii but her parents are from Australia.
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