Speedy: You wanted him to steal that junk, Lou? That's a lot of baloney.This is a Trickster whose actions, while seemingly pointless, selfish, antagonistic, or just plain random, contain a valuable lesson. If you're the hero in a series with a Trickster Mentor, life will probably be twice as hard — and twice as rewarding. In more fantastic settings, this will often be a more benign Great Gazoo, who educates their proteges by subjecting them to various transformations, body-swaps, literal wishes, faked tests of character and insults meant to motivate them. Trickster Mentors love it when someone who first meets them doesn't realize who they are. They get to assess the "true character" of someone, then beat their sense of superiority out of them with it after the revelation. Or, rarely, give them a small break if they reveal honesty and good intentions. Essentially, a blend of order and chaos in the finest Zen tradition. Some accompany their teachings with profound Koans, but they are just as likely to throw in a few Ice Cream Koans to keep their disciples on their toes.
Narrator: With Guru Lou, Pizza Cats, you never know what's bologna and what's filet mignon.
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- Mephisto from Blue Exorcist, who wants to make Rin strong enough to defeat Satan and (supposedly) bring peace to both humans and demons. He does this by repeatedly putting Rin in difficult, life-threatening situations—even sending the demon prince Amaimon to try and kill him.
- Bleach: Urahara's training will kill if his students fail. If Ichigo doesn't dodge, he dies. If he doesn't look inside himself for his power, he dies. If he fails to knock off Urahara's hat, he dies. The point was to give Ichigo the power to invade Soul Society, but Urahara still began the training with the order to put on a silly bandana, shouting "TAKE THIS! THE POWER OF JUSTICE! JUSTICE ARMOR! JUSTICE HACHIMAKI! ATTACK!" Only when Ichigo complies does he realise Urahara was teasing. However, Urahara did this because he realised Ichigo's strength lies with his instincts, not thinking things through, so he needed to distract Ichigo's mind, allowing instinct to take over.
- In Fullmetal Alchemist, Izumi Curtis' idea of training is abandoning the Elrics on an island for a month and unleashing a monster (although it is later revealed that the "monster" was a shop assistant) on their tails. All for them to find the meaning of the philosophy behind alchemy.
- Izumi is an odd case since she learned this method from her mentor, who was merely a survivalist who misunderstood what kind of training she wanted. She adapted it to be more suitable for alchemist training herself.
- Oddly enough, the Truth is also this to the Elrics, especially Ed. It's genuinely pleased when Ed finally figures it out.
- Jiraiya from Naruto adopts the "thrown in at the deep end" method of training. Literally. Unsatisfied with the hero's progress at accessing his power, he throws him off a waterfall.
- InuYasha. Toutousai has played this role for both Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru, with much reluctance and by unpredictably combining this trope with Obfuscating Insanity, Let's Get Dangerous and Older and Wiser. It's the only way he can get the two Hair-Trigger Temper sons of his late master to achieve the Character Development their father desperately wanted them to undergo without getting himself killed in the process. The anime once toyed with this in a filler episode that was Played for Laughs, by having Inuyasha think Toutousai was giving him Wax On, Wax Off style training when really Toutousai just wanted someone to do all the heavy lifting to make him a hot outdoor bath.
- It has been argued that Genma Saotome and Happosai from Ranma ˝ are this sort of mentor - putting Ranma through humiliation and hell for the express purpose of teaching him to be a superior martial artist. Genma steals Ranma's food? Defense training. Happosai tries to make Ranma wear lingerie? Teaching spiritual detachment. Or it could be that they're both dicks, which is the general view of the other characters.
- Cologne has some of this as well, but her Training from Hell is always well-intentioned, and her students are very quick to catch on that both the training and the objective are equally useful. Then again, she sometimes pokes fun at the youngsters for the hell of it. Or because her cafe is overstocked with rancid noodles and can't think of any other way to get rid of them.
- Jack Rakan of Mahou Sensei Negima! is like this. His training techniques include things like "Make a really ugly face and do 100 punches!" and "Punch me as hard as you can!". Yet, Negi still manages to learn Black Magic under his guidance.
- It should also be noted that Rakan trains himself like this, too. After demonstrating said Black Magic, he reveals he had never actually tried it before, instead just being sure it'd work, and that he wouldn't be killed as a result of using it.
- Initial D has Bunta Fujiwara, who secretly trains his son Takumi's road racing skill through years of tofu delivery runs on Mount Akina. And these aren't just any tofu delivery runs; Takumi is also given a cup of water to put in his car's cup holder, and must complete his run without spilling a drop of water. And then in Initial D Second Stage, Bunta invests in a new engine for the Trueno, but deliberately waits for the Trueno's original engine to break down in the middle of a race so that Takumi would be more accepting of the swap.
- One Piece: Some might say Luffy's grandfather is one as well considering his training techniques to make Luffy a great marine, however, since his reasoning was make clear and it backfired big time it could just be Training from Hell.
- The masters of Ryouzanpakou do this to Kenichi all the time. Their favorite technique is to focus training on one main task that is completely impossible, so that Kenichi will be so focused on that failure that he doesn't notice any of the progress he's made.
- This is the preferred method of Hayato Furinji (a.k.a. The Elder). Akisame also often uses it. Other masters not so often, especially not Apachai who teaches very directly.
- Possibly, Setsuka Sakurazuka towards her son Seishirou in X1999
- Cross Marian of D.Gray-Man,He really does love Allen. Hoshino even says Cross cares for him like his own child. But, Cross roughs him up alot, because he likes Allen's dark side, as Hoshino stated. And that's probably because that side is closer to real Allen, as opposed to the repressed boy be became after Mana's death. Allen has a few traumatic memories from his years with Cross. Mainly the debts. But it's played for laughs.
- One very twisted example is the relationshp between Askeladd and Thorfinn in Vinland Saga. Askeladd sees himself is this towards Thorfinn, but Thorfinn hates Askeladd with a burning passion, and would sooner die then admit he had any such relationship with the man.
- Hattori in Bakuman。, long after he's no longer actually Ashirogi Muto's editor.
- Clow Reed mostly by way of Eriol Hiiragizawa in Cardcaptor Sakura. He has no issues leading Sakura and his own creations to believe that a danger is very real, only to reveal after they overcome it that there never was any risk.
- In Nagasarete Airantou, main protagonist Ikuto has a Stealth Mentor (literally, even; Ikuto had no idea who he was, at first) in the West Leader, one of the Four Leaders that govern the island, and arguably the strongest of said four. When the West Leader finally reveals his identity to Ikuto, he quickly swerves into this type.
- In Durarara!! a very, very generous interpretation of Izaya's character places him as one of these. His favorite hobby is messing with people's heads, manipulating them into going through emotionally devastating circumstances, seemingly For the Lulz. However, the ordeals Izaya puts people through often force them to confront some ugly truths about themselves, as Izaya is happy to point out. They may not be happier, but Izaya's victims are often wiser for having been used by him.
- Master Korin from Dragon Ball. Those who climb his tower are told that the Sacred Water will grant super strength to anyone who drinks it. He steals the water and plays keep away until the person is able to grab it. They're then told that the water is just tap water and them getting the water was what made them stronger.
- In Dragon Ball Super, Vegeta plays this role towards Cabba during their fight in the inter-universe tournament: By (falsely) claiming that he'll kill Cabba and destroy his homeplanet, making Cabba angry enough to go Super Saiyan for the first time.
- In Panzer World Galient, Hilmuka loves teasing, testing and tricking Jordy so he learns to fight and discovers their enemy's true nature and capabilities.
- In many ways, the Silver Age Superman was one of these, particularly to his pal Jimmy Olsen and his girlfriend, Lois Lane (as well as his various other girlfriends). There are countless stories where Superman puts his loved ones through various sorts of Hell in order to teach them lame moral lessons. For Jimmy, the lessons often boiled down to "don't drink things you're not supposed to;" for Lois, they usually were "stop trying to find out my secret identity/trick me into marrying you." For the readers, the lesson was "Superman is a dick."
- The Super-Teacher From Krypton was a robot built by Jor-El to teach his son. Of course, then the planet blew up... but by a fluke, the robot survived (a lot of Kryptonian stuff survived in the Silver Age) and eventually found Kal-El as a teenager on Earth. The robot took it upon itself to guide him in the wise use of his powers. The robot appeared twice, once in the Silver Age and then once in the Bronze Age. In both cases, it acted like an incredibly high-handed and manipulative Jerk Ass, and while Clark had to admit he had learned valuable lessons from it, he was very glad when the wretched thing took off back into outer space. So maybe this is where Supes picked up these same qualities when "mentoring" people as an adult.
- John Constantine the Hellblazer is a mentor to Timothy Hunter in The Books of Magic. Because of John's profession as con man, he sometime pranks Tim, sometimes to the point of endangering the kid's life.
- The Red Dragon from Bone is a pretty low-key example; but it's especially noticable in the early parts of the comic, where he in between his lazing around and Big Damn Heroes moments will occasionally do some pretty weird things, either to teach the protagonists a lesson or just mess around with them.
Fone Bone: The dragon's doing this! He wants you to think he doesn't exist!The Red Dragon: (Pokes his head out of a well) Actually, I just want her to think you're nuts.
- From American Born Chinese, The Monkey King disguises himself as the stereotypically obnoxious Chin-Kee to teach the protagonist a lesson about not abandoning his heritage.
- Deconstructed with the Headmaster in Rosario + Vampire fanfic He Who Fights Monsters. His 'teaching style' created the monster known as Tsukune much to his fear and horror.
- Deconstructed with Phoenix Wright in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney fanfic Dirty Sympathy. His teaching style and fast-and-loose antics not only costs him Apollo's respect, but also causes his own plans to fall apart when he finds out that Apollo framed Kristoph for a crime he didn't commit and wasn't working alone.
- Deconstructed. In Parting Words Twilight is so sick and tired of being a pawn in Celestia's games that she renounces her place as Celestia's student. In spite of halting her 'cryptic mentor' tendencies with Twilight Sparkle, in The Great Alicorn Hunt Celestia still tends to be enigmatic and manipulative with a few things, not the least of which includes selecting a host of male guards for Twilight and Fluttershy in hopes that they find their 'super special somepony'. Kinda backfires with the Wonderbolts when she fails to fully debrief them on their 'true' mission with Rainbow Dash. This is also a major factor in why Sunset Shimmer fell, as she saw Celestia much like Twilight did in the beginning of Parting Words, and hated being manipulated.
- Thousand Shinji: Khnemu taught Shinji the ways of scheming and manipulating. In order to train him properly, Khnemu betrayed and backstabbed Shinji constantly, and he expected that Shinji tried to outwit him and double-cross him in turn. Even so, he cared for his disciple, and Shinji was aware ot it.
- Corrin Reacts: Azama certainly thinks he's one. Unfortunately for Kaze, it manifests in him allowing Kaze's fangirls to chase him through the Hoshidan capital.
- In The Grifters, Roy Dillon (John Cusack) finds a Con Man and asks to be taught how to be a grifter. The man agrees and gives him some advice. At the end of their conversation the man asks Dillon for $10. After Dillon gives it to him, the man says "Come around tomorrow, I'll take you again."
- "The Old Man", of The Golden Child, played by none other than Victor Wong, who would later go on to play Egg Chen in Big Trouble in Little China. His first appearance to Eddie Murphy's Chandler Jarrell has him pretending to be a Tibetan street vendor selling junk jewelry, and scamming Jarrell out of money as a Secret Test of Character.
- Played for Laughs in Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story, where the team's mentor, Patches O'Houlihan, goes so far as to throw wrenches at the players, declaring that "if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball".
- "If you can dodge traffic, you can dodge a ball!"
- Merlin from Kingsman: The Secret Service. Most of the tests he puts the candidates through are actually testing for something other than what it seems on the surface, or at least have some twist to them that he doesn’t bother to explain. Most notable is the skydiving incident in which he allows all of the candidates to jump from the plane, before suggesting that they need to know what to do when operating under unforeseen circumstances... like when one of them doesn’t have a parachute. They all have parachutes.
- Likewise, the Dealy Lama (no misspelling). Both more or less good guys who make extreme effort to appear unreliable or even dangerous and evil to their wards. When you manage to connect the dots, you'll realize that the Dealy Lama was this trope: he inspired the myth that would become the Devil-character of every mythology in existence, including the Discordianism - about himself!
- Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel Thief of Time includes Lu-Tze, a deliberate pastiche of Mr. Miyagi style trickster mentors. In true Zen form the humble sweeper Lu-Tze never quite lets on whether he's a profoundly enlightened wiseman with reality-defying martial arts powers or just a wiseass who gets by on audacity and luck alone. Right up until the end, when it is revealed that he's the former.
- In the Strugatsky Brothers' later Noonverse novels, Rudolf Sikorski, the Government Conspiracy Knight Templar, works somewhat like that with the protagonist Maxim Kammerer. He keeps shooting the dog and does a classic Breaking Speech when Maxim first meets him. It all seems to do Maxim some good service in the end, though.
- It is impossible to describe the Quintarian deity known as the Bastard from Bujold's Chalion books, Paladin of Souls in particular, as anything but this.
Ista: "What training? You never explained anything."Bastard: "Instructing you, sweet Ista, would be like teaching a falcon to walk up to its prey. It might with great effort be done, but one would end with a very footsore and cranky bird, and a tedious wait for dinner. With a wingspan like yours, it's ever so much easier to shake you from my wrist and see you fly."Ista: "Plummet."Bastard: "No. Not you. Granted, you tumble and complain halfway to the abyss, but eventually you do spread your wings and soar."
- Hasan ibn Sabbah in Vladimir Bartol's Alamut, with the twist that he usually has the followers who realize that he is a trickster covertly killed. When one of them survives and comes back for revenge, he declares him as his own son in every sense but biological, and blesses his search for enlightenment. And it works!
- Vergere from the New Jedi Order. Later works established her as being also an Evil Mentor.
- K. Pinkerton Silverfish, the author of the titular self-help book in Stephen Manes' children's novella Be a Perfect Person in Just Three Days. The protagonist Milo does all sorts of ridiculous things at Dr. Silverfish's instruction, like wearing a stalk of broccoli around his neck, going without food for a whole day, and finally staying up all night doing nothing but laying in bed and drinking weak tea. When Milo screws up by nodding off during the last task, the book reassures him by explaining the moral of the story: nobody's perfect, and people who obsess over trying to be perfect just make themselves look silly.
- An Elegy for the Still-living: Robin Goodfellow, when he isn't just messing with Francis for the fun of it.
- In The Once and Future King the wizard Merlyn teaches Arthur/The Wart through a series of trials by transforming him into various animals to prepare him for life once he becomes the High King.
- In Ender's Game, of course, the Battle School instructors have set up a system where almost everything the instructors do is part of a trick.
- Master Li from Bridge of Birds (the namesake of the one under "Video Games") is a classic example. Being the son of two infamous bandits, he's partial to lengthy, intricate plots and bluffs in which Number Ten Ox is a part, and isn't afraid to put one over on his student from time to time, but he does manage to teach him effectively.
- Haymitch from The Hunger Games definitely qualifies; years of heavy drinking and being a Hunger Games survivor have probably contributed to the "trickster" part of his mentorship. He gets into intense arguments fairly often with Katniss and although Katniss usually doesn't like what she hears, Haymitch is normally right, if not in a brutally honest way.
- The entire Allalie family qualifies, especially Henry/Verey and Callan. Henry attempts to change his mother by showing her illusions and always asks the question, "What did you learn?" Callan attempts to do this for Jake but fails- Jake just becomes angry and confused. The family also tricks an alcoholic journalist into giving up drinking.
- Harry Dresden has the misfortune to have several supernatural entities of great power and mysterious natures interested in teaching him something, but he's never entirely sure what he's meant to learn. Examples include Leanansidhe, Queen Mab and the Mothers, the Archangel Uriel, He Who Walks Behind, and Rashid the Gatekeeper, and since many of them appear to be on different sides and are quite willing for him to die if he's not strong enough to survive the lesson, he's often lost for reliable, non-lethal guidance. As of Cold Days, he's finally had it spelled out to him that he should just keep blundering through life, trying to sort out the problems he comes across / creates along the way, as it seems destiny has every intention of continuing to aim him in the general direction of whatever needs to get broken.
- Harry himself is this to Molly. When teaching her about magic, he's mostly straightforward, but when teaching her about life, he prefers making her understand things rather than simply learn them. This is evidenced in the bead necklace subplot.
- Willy Wonka in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a variation: The whole purpose of the Golden Ticket contest and the tour of his fantastical factory for its winners is to find a child worthy of inheriting the place. Those who disregard his instructions and give in to their worst natures as they explore it are nastily altered — even, in the 2013 stage musical, killed! Those who reveal their best natures through the journey, even if at the time it seems counterproductive to do so, are rewarded. Gene Wilder, who played Wonka in the 1971 film adaptation, beautifully summarizes this trope with the story of agreeing to do the film on one condition: He wanted to make his entrance with a cane, limping, then suddenly somersaulting, "Because from that point on, no one will know if I'm lying or telling the truth." The director agreed to it, and the rest is history.
- In Murderess, ‘Hat Lad is this for Lu, giving her cryptic directions and pulling off Not Quite Dead on her twice.
- A Mage's Power: Tasio's goal is to help Eric learn confidence and preservence. His methods involve deception, cunning, and many dangerous situations.
Live Action TV
- Star Trek:
- Q, from his appearances in various series, plays tricks that seem borderline evil at times, but ultimately contain an important lesson . . . unless he's just messing with you. The three big ones: he arranges an encounter between the Enterprise and the Borg, giving the Federation a year's warning and time to prepare before the Borg were due to arrive. Another time, Q gives Picard a chance for a Do-Over with the promise it won't affect others, leading Picard to discover that his untidy past and brash youth was necessary for him to become the person he is today. Finally, Q sets up Picard to create the paradox that would prevent life evolving on Earth; but at the same time gives him the tools to escape. And at the very end, it seems like Q might be about to reveal another big secret to Picard... but decides that Helping Would Be Kill Stealing, and merely tells him, "You'll find out."
- The Continuum itself managed a double-header. In making Q mortal for his constant jerk-ass behavior, they taught him a bit of humility, but also got to see how humanity would treat someone who had put them through so much aggravation while he was helpless.
- Sabrina's Quiz Master on Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
- The Trickster from Supernatural. Half the time he's teaching a lesson, and the other half he's just killing for fun. Oh, and he's an archangel. Arguably, he is always teaching someone a lesson, these just usually go over the recipient's head. Often because said head is rolling away.
- He tries to teach Sam that he can't save Dean from dying and going to hell because of his deal by sticking Sam in a "Groundhog Day" Loop where Dean ends up dying in increasingly ridiculous ways every repetition and Sam can't stop it from happening. Arguably, this just ends up making Sam more desperate.
- In a later episode, he sticks the boys in TV Land and makes them play out the "roles" they are cast in in each show to try to get them to "play their roles" in the coming apocalypse. He ends up having a much more selfish motive in this one: because he's Gabriel, who ran away from heaven because his brothers were fighting each other, and he wants Michael and Lucifer to have their showdown because "I just want it to be over!".
- Claude from Heroes, whose training methods include gleefully whacking his pupil over the head with a stick and throwing him off the roof of a skyscraper.
Claude: "Do! Something! Unexpected!"
- Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island. He'll give you the means to fulfill your biggest dream, but it doesn't mean he'll grant said dream to you in exactly the way you want it to be. You'll have to learn your lesson through it, and sometimes your life and sanity will depend on it...
- In their essay "The Sound of One House Clapping" (appearing in the volume House and Philosophy), Jeffrey C. Russ and Jeremy Barris argue that House is a trickster mentor in the classic Zen tradition. The closing arc of Season 3 has Foreman wrestling with the prospect that he's an Evil Mentor. This comes back in Season 6 after Chase murders a patient (an African dictator) to prevent him from perpetrating genocide on part of his country's population.
- There was also a story arc in Season 4 where Kutner uses House's name for an online-diagnosis site without House's knowledge or consent. When House finds out, he submits a fake medical problem to the site, pretending to be a woman with faulty breast implants. When Kutner continues to try to treat the "patient" on his own, House hires a prostitute to come in posing as the patient from the website. Hilarity Ensues, with the woman faking her death and "reviving" in the morgue, where House berates Kutner for being an idiot.
- R.J. in Power Rangers Jungle Fury fulfills this role. He often will have the Rangers do seemingly stupid things in the name of teaching them valuable lessons.
- Also Dimitria from Power Rangers Turbo, who spends much of her time speaking in riddles for the team to solve.
- Slightly unusual use Chinese Paladin, as The Hero is this to his Lancer Jinyuan, setting him exercises such as standing on one leg and reciting nonsense. The twist comes when Jinyuan is perfectly aware that he's being set up, but goes along with it anyway—for the exact same reasons.
- This is George Bluth's parenting style on Arrested Development. Whenever his kids misbehaved when they were young, George would hire a man who had lost an arm working for the Bluth company to help stage an accident, making the kids think that a random stranger had lost an arm because they were ignoring their father's advice. Sometimes it made sense, such as "accidentally" running the employee over because the kids were yelling too much in the back, other times it was just plain bizarre-George once tried to convince his kids that leaving their doors open with the air conditioning running had led to the guy losing his arm.
- Sam Weiss from Fringe. His teachings involve having Olivia do seemingly inane things like tie shoes. They seem completely useless until Olivia reflexively stands up... without the aid of the crutches she thought she couldn't move without. He's also delightfully snarky and constantly cracks jokes while teaching Fringe team his odd lessons.
- Older Than Print: Some versions of Merlin and Morgan le Fay from the Arthurian mythos.
- Trickster figures in myth and folklore tend to vary by region — particularly with the Native American tricksters. Raven was typically the more wise, trickster mentor. Crow tended to be more mercurial, even malicious. Coyote inhabited pretty much the entire spectrum between trickster creator, noble trickster, mean-spirited prankster, and avatar of chaos; depending on the particular region and people. African and European tricksters varied similarly by people and region. Anansi generally deviated between being brilliant but so lazy that he never got anything done and brilliant but so conceited that he stumbled over his own convoluted tricks.
- Nasrudin (also called Nasruddin, Nasredin, and Nasreddin, or if you're an Arab, Juha, Jawha, Guha, and—deep breath—Goha) was the king of this. A famous Sufi Muslim form of this, he varies from eminently wise to incredibly stupid to a mixture of the two depending on the story. Besides being a general Trickster, he has a strong Trickster Mentor aspect. For example:
- He was brought to hear the Emir (i.e. prince) recite a poem he had written. After all the other people in attendance had given their (very flattering) reviews, Goha (I'm an Arab) said: "With respect, my lord, your poem was terrible." The Emir immediately ordered him to be jailed for thirty days. Shortly after Goha was released, the Emir had another poem recital. When the Emir asked Goha his opinion, Goha immediately stood up and started for the door. "Where are you going?" asked the Emir. "To the jail, my lord," responded Goha.
- Another example, this one taken from an affiliate of The Other Wiki:
Once a renown philosopher and moralist was traveling through the land and stopped in Nasrudin's village. He asked Nasrudin to recommend a place to eat, and, being hungry for intelligent company as well, invited Nasrudin to accompany him. At the restaurant, they asked the waiter what the special of the day was, and were told, "Fish — fresh fish!" They ordered two.
When the waiter brought the fish on a great platter, however, one was noticeably larger than the other. Nasrudin, seeing this, immediately slid the larger fish onto his own plate. The philosopher, shocked, proceeded to berate Nasrudin at length for violating the precepts of every religion and moral system ever thought of.
At the end of this, Nasrudin asked, "What would you have done?"
The philosopher said, "I, as a conscientious human, would have taken the smaller fish."
Nasrudin replied, "Here you go, then", and slid the smaller fish onto the philosopher's plate.
- There are entire schools of Zen Buddhism and Sufi Islam dedicated to this.
- Certain schools of Hinduism regard the Buddha as a Trickster Mentor of Hinduism: they believe that he was the ninth incarnation of Vishnu, sent to teach falsehood so that Hindus would know the danger of being sucked into reasonable-seeming but wrong religious arguments.
- Herschel of Ostropol is Nasreddin's Yiddish-speaking cousin from the Ukraine. In one of his more famous episodes, he stole one drumstick from a rich man's roast goose and ate it. When the owner of the goose confronted him, Herschel insisted the bird had only one leg to begin with. "There's no such thing as a bird with one leg," said the rich man. Herschel then took him to a local pond where waterbirds were standing on one leg, with the other leg drawn up into their feathers. The rich man made noise to scare the birds, and they all lowered their second leg and flew away. Herschel's comment: "See, if you'd shouted and waved at the roast goose, you'd have seen its other leg, too."
- Neatly inverted by Rabbi Hillel, who was challenged to teach an impatient Roman "all of the Torah while standing on one foot!" Hillel's answer: "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole of the Torah, the rest is commentary. Now, go study." The man was so impressed that he actually did.
- The Amarok of inuit mythology is an interesting example, as it is actually considered a villain despite having obvious wisdom, and most of the morals from the stories are intended from the Amarok to the reader rather than another character, as the actual victim of the Amarok's attention is usually quite dead. When an Amarok does play a more traditional Trickster Mentor, it relies more on strange teaching methods than genuine deception, training a boy to be strong by wrestling with him and removing the small bones in his body that weakened him.
- Subverted in Werewolf: The Apocalypse with the Nuwisha werecoyotes. The Nuwisha see themselves as trickster mentors to the Garou and other Fera, but judging from the other tribebooks, their "lessons" produce confusion, embarrassment, or anger more often than enlightenment. The Fantastic Racism does not help.
- El Gallo in The Fantasticks is this, though the protagonists never quite recognize him as such.
- Jade Empire furnishes a few examples. Master Li is characterized this way early on, with several characters remarking on his idiosyncratic behavior. The Forest Shadow is a more complete example: she's a powerful fox spirit (see the citation on Coyote above), a class of beings assigned by the Celestial Bureaucracy to confront humans with Secret Tests of Character—even when she needs your help, this is how she approaches you.
- Ovan picked up this habit in Dot Hack GU, giving him the Fan Nickname of Trollvan.
- In Dragon Age II, Flemeth serves as one to Hawke. Despite the fact that everyone present is clearly aware that dealing with the "Witch of the Wilds" is a bad thing, she actually never does anything overtly malicious towards Hawke at all. Indeed, after Hawke honours their vow to bring her locket to the top of Sundermount, thus leading to her resurrection, she promptly thanks them for their help and even takes a moment to offer Hawke and their companions some cryptic advice before flying away.
- Snarky!Hawke serves as one to Carver. Throughout the First Act, Hawke repeatedly tries to make their little brother get over himself and take himself a lot less seriously. Indeed, it seems that most of Hawke's jabs at Carver aren't those of mockery from an elder sibling, but more as means to try to push Carver to prove them wrong.
- Most of the effective coaches in Inazuma Eleven series are stoic, grim faces who always have hidden lessons and stretegies under their sleeves. Even Endou is significantly colder and trickier as a coach. Curse much?
- In Thog Infinitron, Shaman Magog acts both as Thog's mentor and trickster, often leading Thog into situations that will allow Thog to grow as a human being, but sometimes seemingly just for his own entertainment.
- Netta from DDG veers between trickster or cynical mentor depending on her mood
- In Ascension, Telious gives Aramis a sword and no training, and makes him face "zombie fight surprise" many times after it's very very clear Aramis has no sword talent or training. Then he sends Aramis (after having him fatally backstabbed by an assassin) against another zombie, but with no sword just a little golden whistle. Aramis technically fails the test by not even attempting to use magic for which he has no training, but passes it by attempting to kill Telious before he bleeds to death - and still keeping up the belief that despite Telious being a sick bastard he keeps hope because despair is a form of sloth his church warns against.
- Not to mention Aramis is sent to scout ominous ancient evils that may or may not exist by himself, and not told the person he's supposed to meet is part demon yet a nice person! The total lack of instructions or even hints in dealing with evil makes this church's moral standards very peculiar indeed...
- Coyote in Gunnerkrigg Court has become this to Antimony Carver.
- Dron the Dragon from A Magical Roommate, though not always in a good way- he tries to shake his students out of the 'learn what they tell you and don't think for yourself' mentality by forcing them to question everything and everyone, but fails to see that students need something reliable to trust, or they can't do anything.
- In Sinfest, Buddha, in the best Zen tradition, offers a flower in response to a request for enlightenment.
- In The Dragon Doctors, when Kili summons the Capricious Spirit of Love in Chapter 2, the spirit acts as one for her.
- In Whateley Universe, Chou is 'blessed' with the Monkey King as a mentor. In "Summoning Sweeties", the Monkey King explains his/her actions all but quoting this trope.
- Rafiki the baboon from The Lion King. While prodding Simba's revelation that he cannot keeping moping over his past and should return to his homeland to correct the Circle of Life, he whacks Simba over the head with his staff without warning.
Simba: What was that for?Rafiki: It doesn't matter! It's in the past! ... The past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or learn from it. *swings again, Simba ducks this time*
- He definitely acts like this in the Timon & Pumbaa series.
- King Bumi for the duration of "The King of Omashu" on Avatar: The Last Airbender. Also to his whole city when he surrenders rather than subject them to a doomed siege, and then cackles about it a lot rather than explaining anything.
- The Oracle of Delphius from Sonic Underground fills this trope. He comes complete with koan-slinging and a lampshade.
Manic: Do you ever give a straight answer?Oracle: What do you think?
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic:
- Princess Celestia. She so often sets up the episode's whole source of conflict, runs away when anything dangerous happens, or chooses not to be a Deus ex Machina even when she could easily solve everything on her own that fans have dubbed her "Princess Trollestia".
In the series premiere, she knows full well about the prophecy predicting that her sister whom she imprisoned is about to escape and wreak havoc. Rather than explain things, or even do anything herself, she just tells the protagonist to "stop reading those dusty old books" and make friends, and is absent for the rest of the episode. Incidentally this is exactly what needs to be done, and as she notes later, she never explicitly said that the prophecies were wrong.
She knows that Twilight has six friends, but gives her only two tickets to the Gala, forcing her to agonize over who to give the extra ticket to. Though there is some controversy over whether she might have honestly expected Twilight to just go with Spike. In the end Twilight returns the tickets saying she can't go if she can't bring all her friends. Celestia replies, "Why didn't you say so in the first place?" and gives her more tickets. Apparently the lesson was: You never had to choose.
She sits back and watches as Rarity plummets to her doom, letting Rainbow Dash have a Big Damn Heroes moment. The fact that Rarity was put in this situation due to the heat of the sun, and the fact that Celestia controls the sun, leads some to suspect that she caused the whole incident to begin with.
She invites the main characters to a snooty, boring, rich-people party and hopes that they'll cause a disaster and liven up the event. She outright admits as much after said scheme goes precisely as she planned.
She intentionally tricks overzealous waiters into filling her teacup so that it overflows. This is an undeniably harmless joke, though, and seems to have been made as an attempt to break the tension her presence caused her overly nervous subjects. Though she still clearly enjoys it.
She takes her old, dying pet bird to a party, then runs away and leaves it there with Fluttershy, resident animal lover, failing to tell her the bird is actually a phoenix whose time for rebirth has nearly come. Again, the debate as to whether this was purposefully done or simply a case of absentmindedness continues. Although, Fluttershy did kind of steal the bird on her own instead of just asking the Princess what was wrong with it, and it did seem like Celestia genuinely didn't know where Philomena had gotten to.
She seems remarkably nonchalant when she discovers that Twilight has traveled all the way to Canterlot and broken into the Canterlot Library of Magic's Star Swirl the Bearded Wing at the crack of dawn - all while sporting a torn jumpsuit, a wildly unkempt mane, a scar on her cheek, and an eyepatch. Almost as if she suspected what was going on but didn't want to interfere with Twilight learning a valuable lesson... Of course, Twilight being Twilight, Celestia may have assumed she was simply doing extra studying...in the capital city several miles away, in what is probably the largest and oldest library in Equestria. Twilight isn't just an A+ student, she's the neurotic A+++++++ student.
She sends Twilight a valuable uncompleted spell from one of the mages of all time, in hope that Twilight could fix it, suggesting that she knew very well what was wrong with it...and doesn't bother giving her a heads-up that it completely changes the destiny and lives of all her friends. Her justification was that by saving her friends and completing the spell, she was ascend to become an alicorn princess, too.
- Discord in Season 4's "Princess Twilight Sparkle" 2-parter. He knew all along what was causing the Everfree Forest to run wild, but kept silent because he didn't want to "rob Twilight of an important lesson about being a princess." He is also the one who suggests they speak to Zecora for guidance, and convinces Twilight to return to her friends, albeit by insinuating her new title has gone to her head.
Unlike Princess Celestia, though, Discord's method of "teaching" seems to be more just messing with Twilight and then teaching a lesson about friendship as a justification/excuse to do so. In his other Season 4 episode "Three's A Crowd", the friendship lesson Twilight learned was completely unintended on his part, because he faked being sick in order for Twilight to prove she's friends with him by looking for a cure, and was disappointed when he didn't completely wreck Twilight's day with Cadence.
Discord seems up to this again in Twilights Kingdom Part 1, manipulating Twilight towards trying to open the chest from the Tree of Harmony.
There's some discussion about the Trickster Mentoring in this dual episode (Alternative Character Implementation on the YMMV subpage): Princess Celestia sent Discord instead of Twilight to fight the Big Bad. In the end, this resulted in a valuable lesson for Twilight and Discord both. Discord's treachery also managed to teach Twilight an important lesson.
In Season 5 episode "What About Discord?", when Twilight is already the proud Princess of Friendship, she spends a couple of days at home reorganizing her library. When she finally decides to meet her friends, she discovers that, while she was absent, Discord visited them, they had a good time, and now they apparently have lots of inside jokes which Twilight obviously doesn't get because "she wasn't there". After a while of seeing Discord having fun with her best friends, she starts feeling jealous and left-out, but doesn't want to admit it to herself, since she's the Princess of Friendship. That leads to her trying to re-create their good time, and, when that fails, suspecting that Discord had put her friends after some kind of spell. He hadn't. Twilight has to admit that being the Princess of Friendship doesn't warrant her from being jealous, and even though Discord states that it's just a lucky coincidence and it was never his intent to make Twilight feel this way, his jerky attitude during the episode and the huge reveal suggests that it, in fact, was.
- Princess Celestia. She so often sets up the episode's whole source of conflict, runs away when anything dangerous happens, or chooses not to be a Deus ex Machina even when she could easily solve everything on her own that fans have dubbed her "Princess Trollestia".
- Subverted with Magic Man in Adventure Time. He pretends to be an old homeless man and begs Finn for food, and then does Finn "a favor" in return: transforming him into a giant foot. He claims that he did so to teach Finn a lesson; and only changes him back when Finn expresses regret of having given Magic Man the food. No one can figure out the lesson in the end.
- Mr. Jimmy from Pelswick gives confusing advice but the eponymous character is usually able to piece it together by the end of the episode.