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Jun 27th 2019 at 5:54:20 AM •••

This page seems to have decayed badly, with many obsolete points and some that are simply wrong. Besides including a lot of spoilers, it discusses some things in more detail than needed for trope appreciation. (They do have their own wiki!) Something where I'm not sure of local usage is that it includes folders for alphabet ranges (e.g. A to F) which then include folders for the individual letters. Is this the proper way to handle Very Long trope lists?

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Aug 24th 2015 at 11:26:16 AM •••

What happened to the Main/ namespace for this article? I swear; there WAS one before! Ruined Forever!

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Aug 25th 2015 at 2:03:23 AM •••

Cut. We don't do these for works anymore.

Aug 27th 2015 at 8:44:36 AM •••

Because they're pointless and clog up the system.

Aug 31st 2015 at 12:00:33 AM •••

No it didn't. You still can link to the page.

Sep 5th 2015 at 3:54:46 PM •••

I dissagree. It needed it to be in trend with Terraria!

Sep 24th 2015 at 10:23:21 AM •••

Not anymore… And there's still the dreaded [[Analysis/Terraria]].

Mar 26th 2015 at 11:08:00 AM •••

Also, is it just me or does the whole description need to be massively rewritten? There seems to be way too much specific or esoteric information listed and I'm sure a lot of stuff can be cut-out completely or heavily summarized. There's also lots of out-of-date or obsolete info. For example, is all the stuff in the description about "Classic" mode and all that still relevant? It's been a few years.

I dunno, consider this page from the viewpoint of someone not super familiar with Minecraft. I can understand having a lot of detailed and esoteric info in the trope example list, but not right up front in the description.

I'd go ahead and start editing it myself but I didn't want to step on any toes.

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Mar 26th 2015 at 11:22:11 AM •••

Yeah, that seems to me a bit too detailed.

Mar 31st 2015 at 8:06:26 AM •••

Welp, pulled the trigger. Rewrote the whole intro. Hopefully no feathers are ruffled.

Mar 12th 2015 at 8:30:47 AM •••

Should we add Drinking Game as one of the sub pages? Minecraft has a lot of Drinking Game potential.

Sep 15th 2014 at 6:38:39 PM •••

I think we should add a recap page. I already had this idea last week or earlier to describe important landmarks in history and hopefully enlighten the outdated examples, but I think now more than ever we need information describing what's happening to Minecraft. Top priority with it should be to mark the day Microsoft bought the game.

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Sep 16th 2014 at 8:23:45 AM •••

Recap/ is for plot recaps. Minecraft does not have a plot. So no, we don't need a Recap/ page.

If you want to write a history of Minecraft, please go elsewhere. The wiki is only tangentially interested in behind-the-scenes stuff and it is not at all interested in soapboxing.

Fighteer MOD
Feb 11th 2014 at 8:35:49 AM •••

Difficult, but Awesome: I removed the bow because, by this point, it's just a bow. It's not particularly awesome or, indeed, difficult, by the standards of any modern game.

May 21st 2013 at 7:49:24 PM •••

To whoever changed the picture, thank you.

May 5th 2013 at 4:59:50 PM •••

does anyone else think it would be a good idea to add adventure maps? I'm thinking they could be included under fanfic recs or something. Any ideas on this?

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Aug 30th 2014 at 12:06:33 AM •••

That's definitely a good idea! I suggest a sub page of user created maps and possibly support for Darthwiki/sugarwiki tropes. Because some Minecraft maps are absolutely awful. I currently plan on making a Game Mods subpage, and I know that works pages are a free launch, but I actually do not know how to physically create it. Do you know any guides?

Aug 30th 2014 at 12:33:45 AM •••

If "adventure maps" here means some fan-created accessory to the game, FanficRecs.Minecraft would be the place for recommending them. Make sure you use the formatting for these articles in the process.

Fighteer MOD
Jan 8th 2013 at 7:24:52 AM •••

Awesome, but Impractical, Awesome Yet Practical, Boring, but Practical... at some point are going to have every block and item in the game listed in one of these tropes? We need to either trim it down to archetypal examples or cut the whole mess before it takes over the article.

Oct 11th 2012 at 11:21:33 PM •••

Pulled:

  • Recursive Reality:
    • This mod shows a game of Minecraft being displayed on a giant screen... inside a game of Minecraft. You can also use redstone circuits to create a computer inside your computer, though the clock speed leaves something to be desired.
    • Also, on a smaller scale, if you totally fill it up, you can fit 432 wooden chests inside one. Empty ones, mind.

Not the trope.

(Too Awesome to Use)

  • Diamond equipment is difficult to craft thanks to the rarity of the materials. Diamond tools are fairly practical due to their high durability, but diamond armor is something you will rarely craft, due to scarcity of materials and the fact that it's not that much more durable than iron.

Not really applicable with the repair update.

  • Who Forgot the Lights?: Intentional example. The creator wants to make sure that you don't wander off too much in the night or in caves so there is no Hollywood Darkness for you. You'll need to make torches to light up an area so you can see, and to keep monsters from spawning.
    • As of Beta 1.8 nighttime light levels more closely resemble an actual moonlit night...caves and such are still dark, however. There's also a brightness slider that takes it from "Moonlit night" to "Night vision with less green" and makes caves bright enough to determine whether that bouncing shape is a creeper or a zombie without squinting at the screen.

Things what used to be in the game but what got removed are things what isn't a trope anymore, as I understand it.

... Probably some other things that I forgot to mention?

Aug 23rd 2012 at 8:53:10 PM •••

Should the Ender Dragon on the character page still be under spoilers at this point? Most of the tropes listed for it, even its own name, is all marked with a spoiler tag. The dragon doesn't even have anything spoiler worthy in the game.

May 4th 2012 at 5:21:24 PM •••

Alright, that picture is just way too old. Alpha? Seriously? Full Minecraft has been out by now.

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Jun 5th 2012 at 7:53:24 PM •••

Well, we do have the cover art of the Xbox 360 edition. If we need to, we could always use a cropped version of that.

Edited by 13thDeicide
Jun 14th 2012 at 1:26:49 AM •••

It's old, but the visuals of the game, which that shows, haven't really changed. And the chat is amusing.

Dec 28th 2012 at 9:39:42 AM •••

But the picture uses a texture pack, so it doesn't show what Minecraft actually looks like. Its inaccurate.

May 1st 2013 at 7:28:19 PM •••

I think a picture change would be acceptable, for the reasons given

Apr 18th 2012 at 4:18:38 PM •••

Has anyone else had DREAMS about Minecraft? One I had was of a 'new addition' to Minecraft, the Enderspider. They were like wolves, except they looked like a cross between the Endermen and Cave Spiders. Then suddenly at the end of the dream, I saw a flaming Creeper head (the fire was blue) against a carpet on the wall. I'm pretty sure that was inspired by a Machinima video showing a Creeper drink.

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Nov 29th 2012 at 2:12:48 PM •••

I had a dream there was a pre-release of 1.8 (Before the actual pre-release came out) and the spiders now drop blocks that spawn a mob that is actually the sheep with the spider's model on it. It looked creepier than it sounds.

May 1st 2013 at 7:29:17 PM •••

I've dreamt in it before; can't remember exactly what it was about though

Apr 6th 2012 at 12:19:51 PM •••

Why was the Take That entry removed? Where else could it be if there isnt even a Notch page to place it?

Feb 17th 2012 at 1:52:58 AM •••

Can we please take some stuff off the High Octane Nightmare Fuel page and put it into a Accidental Nightmare Fuel page, or remove some of it all together. I mean, seriously, most of the content is Accidental Nightmare Fuel, and some of it is found to be scary by the poster of the example and no-one else.

Like this entry. Totally High Octane: Dungeons. first of all, they are made of Cobblestone and Moss Stone, Secondly they have a Mob Spawner inside which "Has a 50% chance to be Zombies, a 25% chance to be Skeletons and a 25% chance to be Spiders." and lastly, they are the only way to get Moss Stone, Saddles and Cocoa Beans without modding.

Jan 12th 2012 at 11:16:40 AM •••

I'm really dubious about the current quote at top. It doesn't say a thing about the game except that "it's addictive and leaves you to your own devices", and only the latter point is really germane.

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May 1st 2013 at 7:30:56 PM •••

We could use one of the menu texts instead.

"Less addictive than TV Tropes!" would be appropriate.

Mar 5th 2012 at 4:41:29 AM •••

I strongly agree to this. Can we PLEASE not let the "Game Mod" entry get too large? As it stands there's no reason why that one entry couldn't entirely dwarf the rest of the main article. Not to mention that there's the possibility (and it's already been seen) that people will just use this to advertise their mods, and given the existence of things like adfly... We aren't a place to sell things, we just discuss and have fun talking about our favorite pieces of fiction.

Nov 14th 2011 at 4:50:41 AM •••

Mind discussing about the End Poem?? its a take that against the people who insisted in having Minecraft with storyline or meaning?? did they just told the people that the meaning of the game is just up our imagination in the most bizzarre way?

Nov 14th 2011 at 4:51:36 AM •••

Sure. We need a iconic image, like the drawing of a person with a Oh Crap face and a Creeper behind him

Dec 9th 2011 at 12:59:00 PM •••

I'd like to see a epic, grand creation.

With parts missing.

Mar 24th 2012 at 8:43:17 PM •••

I made a huge town [1] but that sounds like self-insertion :P

Apr 28th 2012 at 1:11:28 PM •••

I like it. The only problems are that it only shows the building in Minecraft. Also, it was made in Alpha.

Oct 15th 2011 at 11:18:14 AM •••

I Don't think that Minecraft is anywhere near Nintendo Hard. 3 of the 5 enemies die in sunlight, Creepers can be prevented by making walls out of cobblestone and heading for high ground when leaving the home. I'm removing that part.

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Oct 16th 2011 at 1:13:48 AM •••

I concur. The player is not forced to engage these hostile mobs if they play carefully, and still can build quite effectively while avoiding combat.

Oct 10th 2011 at 7:23:48 PM •••

Would Silverfish count more as Wall Master or Chest Monster? They DO hide as scenery like Wall Master, but they still share characteristics with Chest Monster.

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Nov 18th 2011 at 6:06:22 PM •••

I would say Wall Master because they hide in blocks and appear when said blocks are broken or if a Silverfish is killed and its death summon other Silverfish. Chest Monster is a monster disguised as something helpful that attacks the player when triggered.

Aug 15th 2011 at 4:12:53 PM •••

What should be done about the Aether mod's tropes? Should we make a page for them or not do anything about it?

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Aug 29th 2011 at 1:57:26 AM •••

Since it's not part of the official game it probably shouldn't be part of the Minecraft page.

Sep 9th 2011 at 2:06:52 PM •••

I thought so too, but you just get the urge to add tropes for random things like that.

Sep 19th 2011 at 9:27:12 AM •••

I think it should have its own small page. Other mods have their own pages, and this one is especially prominent.

Sep 19th 2011 at 4:03:05 PM •••

I'm going to stick with the "Mod-specific tropes don't apply on this page" and edit out that last edit about the Werewolf in the Mo Creatures mod.

May 19th 2011 at 1:46:06 PM •••

I feel the category "Game Breaking Bug" doesn't really apply to a game in Beta let alone references to when the game was in Alpha or pre-Alpha. Should the category be deleted or delete out of date bugs?

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Aug 30th 2011 at 2:20:02 AM •••

I felt so as well, so changed it. The "He IS. You're doing it!" Is from my favorite .sig file from the Minecraft forums. Maybe it'll help.

May 4th 2011 at 5:54:47 AM •••

I think the Minecraft page needs a fanfic rec since their happens to be some fanfics out there.

Apr 12th 2011 at 3:10:25 PM •••

What's this thing about the ghast coming from a creepypasta? The wiki doesn't say anything about it.

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Aug 15th 2011 at 4:11:57 PM •••

The Creepypasta did not create the ghasts, it is just a fan theory. Maybe that part could be taken out.

Wow, late response.

Mar 26th 2011 at 3:20:45 PM •••

Are Spiders really Demonic Spiders? They're barely above Zombies in terms of actual combat capabilities. The main issue they seem to create is that you have to build open-roof structures somewhat differently to keep them from bothering you. I'm suspicious that their inclusion is at least partially based on a literal interpretation of the trope title.

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Mar 26th 2011 at 8:39:32 PM •••

They are worse then zombies because they lunge and can attack under blocks. In addition the damn skeletons can ride on their backs. Plus they can climb. And like the creepers are not vulnerable to sunlight.

Mar 18th 2011 at 12:21:52 AM •••

I have made the character page, but it needs pictures, more tropes and some dead links need fixing. It has all the good and bad mobs, plus the player character.

I hope I've helped significantly with this.

Mar 8th 2011 at 6:16:57 AM •••

Somebody edited in "The Invisible" under the Urban Legend of Zelda article here. I've never heard of it. Can anyone provide a link to the source?

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Mar 23rd 2011 at 6:50:31 AM •••

This is about all there is related to it: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=175534&sid=1c7630a2680a4720c480ca275c78cca2

Honestly, it sounds more like someone trying and failing to recreate the whole Herobrine meme.

Mar 2nd 2011 at 2:14:41 PM •••

Someone needs to add "Guide Dang It" to this topic. I'm doing a usability test of Minecraft for a graduate class, and I've had had literally zero test subjects get past building a workbench/Crafting Table without looking at the walkthrough (which isn't allowed during the test) or asking for help from one of the test moderators. Until we changed the level of difficulty to Peaceful, every test subject got killed by monsters because they didn't know how to make torches.

Feb 27th 2011 at 6:23:44 AM •••

I wonder how many things in this game have Violation of Common Sense.

Edited by artman40
Feb 8th 2011 at 12:02:28 AM •••

Magcargo Man Do you think that there should be a character page, for the mobs. For example, Creepers would have: Ensemble Darkhorse, Made of Explodium and Demonic Spider.

Does anyone agree?

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Mar 7th 2011 at 7:49:31 PM •••

I don't know how to make a character page.

Mar 13th 2011 at 12:00:44 AM •••

In the link, where it says "Main/Minecraft", change that to "Characters/Minecraft" and you can start a new entry.

Edited by SonikFan112
Feb 7th 2011 at 5:55:27 AM •••

Is it worth adding entries about Mods? I mean we have a Game Mod entry now, but with all the mods out there, there's a real risk of a flood of entries that have nothing to do with the vanilla game.

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Feb 8th 2011 at 11:31:49 AM •••

Bump. I edited the Game Mod entry to prevent the possibility of a flood of mod-related tropes. If not prevent a flood, then just give reason for cleaning any up.

Feb 2nd 2011 at 12:38:50 PM •••

a troper by the name of "dancnbna" just deleted a huge chunk of entries. The only reasoning provided was "I thank that thing at the top". Can anyone explain exactly what this is referring to and exactly why it justifies such a huge deletion?

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Feb 2nd 2011 at 9:55:35 PM •••

It's part of a wiki-wide movement to shift all official YMMV tropes and examples to a work's YMMV sub-page. The examples were just moved to behind the scales button at the top of the entry.

Feb 25th 2011 at 6:44:40 PM •••

Yeah. Check the discussion thread on the forums.

Jan 1st 2011 at 2:00:07 PM •••

It's mentioned that you get the later versions of the game free when you buy Beta, but as far as I know, that was only true with the Alpha version. Has new information come out, or was that just an error left over from when it was describing Alpha?

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Jan 31st 2011 at 5:35:36 PM •••

If you go to minecraft.com and click Buy Now on the top right it says:

"When minecraft is finished, it will sell for 20EUR. If you pre-puurchase now during beta, you pay just 14.95EUR! You will also get the full version when it comes out."

Jul 9th 2011 at 2:13:56 PM •••

IIRC, people who bought the game while it was in Alpha will get DLC for free where as everyone else will have to pay for it.

Dec 15th 2010 at 6:38:32 AM •••

on "Dummied Out": I swear that articles are supposed to represent what's true at the latest version of the subject. Now that Fishing Rods do have a purpose, shouldn't the article be edited to reflect that?

Or how about just a sub-entry along the lines of "this used to apply"?

Dec 13th 2010 at 4:26:25 PM •••

Clay's listed in the 'impractical but awesome' part for being rare, but it's a lot more common since the haloween update.

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Jan 22nd 2011 at 11:02:54 AM •••

Then change it. You've got a keyboard, a pointer, and a grasp of the English language. In the time it took you to write this entry, you could have made a handle and corrected the page.

Oct 30th 2010 at 7:20:14 PM •••

It seems I inadvertently blanked the page by editing it. I have no idea what I did, but it wasn't intentional.

edit: All good now it seems. To clarify, I didn't blank the source, I just edited something and the article wouldn't show up anymore... weird.

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Oct 30th 2010 at 7:38:37 PM •••

Serious? Any more experienced tropers know how to get this restored? I'm dismayed enough to want to act and restore it, but I don't know how.

Sep 27th 2010 at 8:09:24 PM •••

I'd really like to nuke fully three fourths of the "crowning moment of awesome" section, and not just because it inherently offends me that none of them are actually 'moments' (to say nothing about suggesting there's anything remotely good about skeletons riding spiders...*shudder*) but that'd kind of be a dick move, not to mention I suck at repurposing information, so I figured I should try the democratic process.

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Oct 5th 2010 at 5:05:08 AM •••

Sure, go nuts. Sounds reasonable to me.

Oct 20th 2010 at 11:41:23 AM •••

I'd say to remove the Spider thing and the "you're a guy with blah blah blah" part. The others would count as C Mo As.

Sep 24th 2010 at 7:17:45 PM •••

Does minecraft really have a "lovely" community? It didn't the last time I checked. It has been saturated by people under the age of 14 recently, and the general atmosphere is one of mixed hostility, ignorance, and ambivalence.

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Sep 25th 2010 at 3:11:59 PM •••

My guess is that it's lovely in the sense that they usually tend to make pretty neat creations.

Just don't visit the forums.

Nov 10th 2010 at 4:20:12 PM •••

I didn't realise it was sarcasm, initially. That sentence went a long way towards making up my mind to buy Minecraft. I thought I was going to ride unicorns over a magic rainbow bridge with my new internet friends and we'd all go to the gumdrop valley where there would be creepers who really did just want to be held and at night we'd eat grilled pork. Instead, the first open multiplayer server I joined had a phallus building competition.

(I won)

Sep 12th 2010 at 2:09:34 AM •••

I'm considering adding a That One Cave entry to this page. Who hasn't suddenly faced three levels of unlit cave, one of which is a pit of doom being filled with water as zombies drop upon you from the top level?

But, maybe that's just me.

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Apr 14th 2011 at 6:07:11 PM •••

This has happened to enough people in some variation that it could work.

Sep 8th 2010 at 1:07:09 PM •••

I think creepers ought to be added to the Demonic Spiders entry, does anyone agree?

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Sep 8th 2010 at 2:20:11 PM •••

Sure, Why Not?. Make sure you maintain the proper formatting that I just tweaked the page with.

Fighteer MOD
Aug 7th 2010 at 8:54:22 PM •••

My fellow tropers, a gentle moderatorly reminder. We are here to discuss our favorite TV shows, films, books, games, etc. We are not here to rant about (or compliment) ourselves for being awesome/lousy/schizophrenic fans. I cut out a lot of tropes on this article that had nothing whatsoever to do with the game. Please carry on in that spirit. Thanks.

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Jan 22nd 2011 at 11:01:09 AM •••

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