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This page seems to have decayed badly, with many obsolete points and some that are simply wrong. Besides including a lot of spoilers, it discusses some things in more detail than needed for trope appreciation. (They do have their own wiki!) Something where I'm not sure of local usage is that it includes folders for alphabet ranges (e.g. A to F) which then include folders for the individual letters. Is this the proper way to handle Very Long trope lists?
What happened to the Main/ namespace for this article? I swear; there WAS one before! Ruined Forever!
Cut. We don't do these for works anymore.
Because they're pointless and clog up the system.
And they encourage bad wicking.
It needed the main!
No it didn't. You still can link to the page.
I dissagree. It needed it to be in trend with Terraria!
Not anymore… And there's still the dreaded [[Analysis/Terraria]].
Also, is it just me or does the whole description need to be massively rewritten? There seems to be way too much specific or esoteric information listed and I'm sure a lot of stuff can be cut-out completely or heavily summarized. There's also lots of out-of-date or obsolete info. For example, is all the stuff in the description about "Classic" mode and all that still relevant? It's been a few years.
I dunno, consider this page from the viewpoint of someone not super familiar with Minecraft. I can understand having a lot of detailed and esoteric info in the trope example list, but not right up front in the description.
I'd go ahead and start editing it myself but I didn't want to step on any toes.
Yeah, that seems to me a bit too detailed.
Welp, pulled the trigger. Rewrote the whole intro. Hopefully no feathers are ruffled.
Should we add Drinking Game as one of the sub pages? Minecraft has a lot of Drinking Game potential.
I think we should add a recap page. I already had this idea last week or earlier to describe important landmarks in history and hopefully enlighten the outdated examples, but I think now more than ever we need information describing what's happening to Minecraft. Top priority with it should be to mark the day Microsoft bought the game.
Recap/ is for plot recaps. Minecraft does not have a plot. So no, we don't need a Recap/ page.
If you want to write a history of Minecraft, please go elsewhere. The wiki is only tangentially interested in behind-the-scenes stuff and it is not at all interested in soapboxing.
Difficult, but Awesome: I removed the bow because, by this point, it's just a bow. It's not particularly awesome or, indeed, difficult, by the standards of any modern game.
To whoever changed the picture, thank you.
does anyone else think it would be a good idea to add adventure maps? I'm thinking they could be included under fanfic recs or something. Any ideas on this?
That's definitely a good idea! I suggest a sub page of user created maps and possibly support for Darthwiki/sugarwiki tropes. Because some Minecraft maps are absolutely awful.
I currently plan on making a Game Mods subpage, and I know that works pages are a free launch, but I actually do not know how to physically create it. Do you know any guides?
If "adventure maps" here means some fan-created accessory to the game, FanficRecs.Minecraft would be the place for recommending them. Make sure you use the formatting for these articles in the process.
Awesome, but Impractical, Awesome Yet Practical, Boring, but Practical... at some point are going to have every block and item in the game listed in one of these tropes? We need to either trim it down to archetypal examples or cut the whole mess before it takes over the article.
Not the trope.
(Too Awesome to Use)
Not really applicable with the repair update.
Things what used to be in the game but what got removed are things what isn't a trope anymore, as I understand it.
... Probably some other things that I forgot to mention?
Should the Ender Dragon on the character page still be under spoilers at this point? Most of the tropes listed for it, even its own name, is all marked with a spoiler tag. The dragon doesn't even have anything spoiler worthy in the game.
Alright, that picture is just way too old. Alpha? Seriously? Full Minecraft has been out by now.
Well, we do have the cover art of the Xbox 360 edition. If we need to, we could always use a cropped version of that.
It's old, but the visuals of the game, which that shows, haven't really changed. And the chat is amusing.
But the picture uses a texture pack, so it doesn't show what Minecraft actually looks like. Its inaccurate.
I think a picture change would be acceptable, for the reasons given
Has anyone else had DREAMS about Minecraft? One I had was of a 'new addition' to Minecraft, the Enderspider. They were like wolves, except they looked like a cross between the Endermen and Cave Spiders. Then suddenly at the end of the dream, I saw a flaming Creeper head (the fire was blue) against a carpet on the wall. I'm pretty sure that was inspired by a Machinima video showing a Creeper drink.
I had a dream there was a pre-release of 1.8 (Before the actual pre-release came out) and the spiders now drop blocks that spawn a mob that is actually the sheep with the spider's model on it. It looked creepier than it sounds.
I've dreamt in it before; can't remember exactly what it was about though
Why was the Take That entry removed? Where else could it be if there isnt even a Notch page to place it?
Can we please take some stuff off the High Octane Nightmare Fuel page and put it into a Accidental Nightmare Fuel page, or remove some of it all together. I mean, seriously, most of the content is Accidental Nightmare Fuel, and some of it is found to be scary by the poster of the example and no-one else.
Like this entry. Totally High Octane:
Dungeons. first of all, they are made of Cobblestone and Moss Stone, Secondly they have a Mob Spawner inside which "Has a 50% chance to be Zombies, a 25% chance to be Skeletons and a 25% chance to be Spiders." and lastly, they are the only way to get Moss Stone, Saddles and Cocoa Beans without modding.
I'm really dubious about the current quote at top. It doesn't say a thing about the game except that "it's addictive and leaves you to your own devices", and only the latter point is really germane.
We could use one of the menu texts instead.
"Less addictive than TV Tropes!" would be appropriate.
Can we add a seperate page for individual mods?
I strongly agree to this. Can we PLEASE not let the "Game Mod" entry get too large? As it stands there's no reason why that one entry couldn't entirely dwarf the rest of the main article. Not to mention that there's the possibility (and it's already been seen) that people will just use this to advertise their mods, and given the existence of things like adfly... We aren't a place to sell things, we just discuss and have fun talking about our favorite pieces of fiction.
Mind discussing about the End Poem?? its a take that against the people who insisted in having Minecraft with storyline or meaning?? did they just told the people that the meaning of the game is just up our imagination in the most bizzarre way?
Should we change the picture? It's... kind of lame.
Sure. We need a iconic image, like the drawing of a person with a Oh Crap face and a Creeper behind him
I'd like to see a epic, grand creation.
With parts missing.
I made a huge town  but that sounds like self-insertion :P
I like it. The only problems are that it only shows the building in Minecraft. Also, it was made in Alpha.
I Don't think that Minecraft is anywhere near Nintendo Hard. 3 of the 5 enemies die in sunlight, Creepers can be prevented by making walls out of cobblestone and heading for high ground when leaving the home. I'm removing that part.
I concur. The player is not forced to engage these hostile mobs if they play carefully, and still can build quite effectively while avoiding combat.
Would Silverfish count more as Wall Master or Chest Monster? They DO hide as scenery like Wall Master, but they still share characteristics with Chest Monster.
I would say Wall Master because they hide in blocks and appear when said blocks are broken or if a Silverfish is killed and its death summon other Silverfish. Chest Monster is a monster disguised as something helpful that attacks the player when triggered.
What should be done about the Aether mod's tropes? Should we make a page for them or not do anything about it?
Since it's not part of the official game it probably shouldn't be part of the Minecraft page.
I thought so too, but you just get the urge to add tropes for random things like that.
I think it should have its own small page. Other mods have their own pages, and this one is especially prominent.
I'm going to stick with the "Mod-specific tropes don't apply on this page" and edit out that last edit about the Werewolf in the Mo Creatures mod.
I feel the category "Game Breaking Bug" doesn't really apply to a game in Beta let alone references to when the game was in Alpha or pre-Alpha. Should the category be deleted or delete out of date bugs?
I felt so as well, so changed it. The "He IS. You're doing it!" Is from my favorite .sig file from the Minecraft forums. Maybe it'll help.
I think the Minecraft page needs a fanfic rec since their happens to be some fanfics out there.
What's this thing about the ghast coming from a creepypasta? The wiki doesn't say anything about it.
The Creepypasta did not create the ghasts, it is just a fan theory. Maybe that part could be taken out.
Wow, late response.
Are Spiders really Demonic Spiders? They're barely above Zombies in terms of actual combat capabilities. The main issue they seem to create is that you have to build open-roof structures somewhat differently to keep them from bothering you. I'm suspicious that their inclusion is at least partially based on a literal interpretation of the trope title.
They are worse then zombies because they lunge and can attack under blocks. In addition the damn skeletons can ride on their backs. Plus they can climb. And like the creepers are not vulnerable to sunlight.
I have made the character page, but it needs pictures, more tropes and some dead links need fixing. It has all the good and bad mobs, plus the player character.
I hope I've helped significantly with this.
Somebody edited in "The Invisible" under the Urban Legend of Zelda article here. I've never heard of it. Can anyone provide a link to the source?
This is about all there is related to it: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=175534&sid=1c7630a2680a4720c480ca275c78cca2
Honestly, it sounds more like someone trying and failing to recreate the whole Herobrine meme.
Someone needs to add "Guide Dang It" to this topic. I'm doing a usability test of Minecraft for a graduate class, and I've had had literally zero test subjects get past building a workbench/Crafting Table without looking at the walkthrough (which isn't allowed during the test) or asking for help from one of the test moderators. Until we changed the level of difficulty to Peaceful, every test subject got killed by monsters because they didn't know how to make torches.
I wonder how many things in this game have Violation of Common Sense.
Do you think that there should be a character page, for the mobs. For example, Creepers would have: Ensemble Darkhorse, Made of Explodium and Demonic Spider.
Does anyone agree?
Go ahead, I like the idea.
I don't know how to make a character page.
In the link, where it says "Main/Minecraft", change that to "Characters/Minecraft" and you can start a new entry.
Is it worth adding entries about Mods? I mean we have a Game Mod entry now, but with all the mods out there, there's a real risk of a flood of entries that have nothing to do with the vanilla game.
Bump. I edited the Game Mod entry to prevent the possibility of a flood of mod-related tropes. If not prevent a flood, then just give reason for cleaning any up.
a troper by the name of "dancnbna" just deleted a huge chunk of entries. The only reasoning provided was "I thank that thing at the top".
Can anyone explain exactly what this is referring to and exactly why it justifies such a huge deletion?
It's part of a wiki-wide movement to shift all official YMMV tropes and examples to a work's YMMV sub-page. The examples were just moved to behind the scales button at the top of the entry.
Wasn't there some sort of official Troper Server?
Yeah. Check the discussion thread on the forums.
It's mentioned that you get the later versions of the game free when you buy Beta, but as far as I know, that was only true with the Alpha version. Has new information come out, or was that just an error left over from when it was describing Alpha?
If you go to minecraft.com and click Buy Now on the top right it says:
"When minecraft is finished, it will sell for 20EUR. If you pre-puurchase now during beta, you pay just 14.95EUR! You will also get the full version when it comes out."
IIRC, people who bought the game while it was in Alpha will get DLC for free where as everyone else will have to pay for it.
on "Dummied Out": I swear that articles are supposed to represent what's true at the latest version of the subject. Now that Fishing Rods do have a purpose, shouldn't the article be edited to reflect that?
Or how about just a sub-entry along the lines of "this used to apply"?
Clay's listed in the 'impractical but awesome' part for being rare, but it's a lot more common since the haloween update.
Then change it. You've got a keyboard, a pointer, and a grasp of the English language. In the time it took you to write this entry, you could have made a handle and corrected the page.
It seems I inadvertently blanked the page by editing it. I have no idea what I did, but it wasn't intentional.
edit: All good now it seems. To clarify, I didn't blank the source, I just edited something and the article wouldn't show up anymore... weird.
Any more experienced tropers know how to get this restored? I'm dismayed enough to want to act and restore it, but I don't know how.
I'd really like to nuke fully three fourths of the "crowning moment of awesome" section, and not just because it inherently offends me that none of them are actually 'moments' (to say nothing about suggesting there's anything remotely good about skeletons riding spiders...*shudder*) but that'd kind of be a dick move, not to mention I suck at repurposing information, so I figured I should try the democratic process.
Sure, go nuts. Sounds reasonable to me.
I'd say to remove the Spider thing and the "you're a guy with blah blah blah" part. The others would count as C Mo As.
Nuclear launch detected.
Does minecraft really have a "lovely" community?
It didn't the last time I checked. It has been saturated by people under the age of 14 recently, and the general atmosphere is one of mixed hostility, ignorance, and ambivalence.
My guess is that it's lovely in the sense that they usually tend to make pretty neat creations.
Just don't visit the forums.
I just figured it was sarcasm.
I didn't realise it was sarcasm, initially. That sentence went a long way towards making up my mind to buy Minecraft. I thought I was going to ride unicorns over a magic rainbow bridge with my new internet friends and we'd all go to the gumdrop valley where there would be creepers who really did just want to be held and at night we'd eat grilled pork. Instead, the first open multiplayer server I joined had a phallus building competition.
I'm considering adding a That One Cave entry to this page. Who hasn't suddenly faced three levels of unlit cave, one of which is a pit of doom being filled with water as zombies drop upon you from the top level?
But, maybe that's just me.
This has happened to enough people in some variation that it could work.
I think creepers ought to be added to the Demonic Spiders entry, does anyone agree?
Sure, Why Not?. Make sure you maintain the proper formatting that I just tweaked the page with.
We need a WMG page for Minecraft.
Here, edit it to start it.
My fellow tropers, a gentle moderatorly reminder. We are here to discuss our favorite TV shows, films, books, games, etc. We are not here to rant about (or compliment) ourselves for being awesome/lousy/schizophrenic fans. I cut out a lot of tropes on this article that had nothing whatsoever to do with the game. Please carry on in that spirit. Thanks.
It's not the internet if we can't masturbate to our own accomplishments! :p
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