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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
16th Nov, 2020 08:19:56 PM

Those quote pages scream Johnnyfog to me; Burgerants was more interested in complaining on Sequelitis pages and then defending themselves very stubbornly. note  That said, they do edit a lot of YMMV and Video Game pages too, so I can see it going either way, but I think Johnnyfog is the more likely candidate here for the sheer amount of quote changes.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
16th Nov, 2020 08:43:07 PM

Wasn't Johnnyfog's M.O. mostly wrestling pages, though?

Edit: Ah, it was quotes and wrestling pages.

Edited by sgamer82
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
18th Nov, 2020 12:39:29 AM

Moderator discussion on the matter concluded that we don't have enough evidence.

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Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
18th Nov, 2020 05:40:50 AM

While no confirmation they are ban evaders, if they have edited incorrectly then is a revert not permitted ?

Piterpicher (Series 2)
18th Nov, 2020 05:49:23 AM

If those edits are bad, then sure, revert. But I think we should assume "innocent until proven guilty" here if there's no conclusive evidence. Besides, I think their main thing used to be edits to character pages related to Final Fantasy which I don't really see being copied (but now it's more quote pages than that for some reason).

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
18th Nov, 2020 06:11:23 AM

The fact that they're adding a lot of quotes by overall-Caustic Critics to quote pages for non-YMMV tropes SCREAMS johnnyfog to me. As in, I'd bet actual cash money on it.

Spidey Since: Sep, 2020
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
18th Nov, 2020 08:26:17 AM

^ x 5 @Spidey: "^So your just going to let them get away scot-free?"

Your post above was very rude.

You might want to apologize for it.

Edited by Arivne
Berrenta MOD Since: Apr, 2015
18th Nov, 2020 08:31:54 AM

Placed them on watch. Need to make sure we have a clear match. If they make any further johnnyfog-y edits, let us know.

As for geolocation, the IP's are close, but also from an area where we may risk a high chance of a false positive.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
18th Nov, 2020 08:32:24 AM

Yeah, if the mods, who have access to things like IP checks, can't conclusively say somebody is a ban evader, who are we to insist they're wrong and that the person must be a ban evader?

Ban evading is a serious offense resulting in a permanent ban with no ability to appeal. Pushing for somebody to be suspended is frowned upon to begin with (it's basically mini-modding), but we have to tread especially lightly here.

Edited by mightymewtron I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Ngamer01 Since: Oct, 2010
18th Nov, 2020 09:26:03 AM

^ Yeah patience is needed by everyone. Ban evaders eventually will give themselves away, so no need to rush things. Just keep an eye on the edits and if a match happens in the future, the mods will handle it or somebody will alert them to it.

This query could probably be locked to deter popcorn commentary as a new query can be made in case a future report is needed on the matter.

eowynjedi Since: Jun, 2009
18th Nov, 2020 10:59:28 AM

Independent of the above, their edits on the FFV character page get very Walkthrough Mode. I tried to edit down some of it, but they went tut-tut and put it back, and I didn't feel like making it a thing at the time. But that's also an issue.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
21st Dec, 2020 07:09:07 PM

They also edited the quotes page for replacement scrappy, just as one of johnnyfog's socks did, along with johnny himself.

Edit: They also edited a bunch of quotes pages and the WCW page.

Addendum: Should they be adding real life quotes to Quotes.Sleazy Politician? That seems treyf to me. I sent them a message reminding them of ROCEJ.

Edited by SkyCat32 Rawr.
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
21st Dec, 2020 07:32:24 PM

^Since the mods often miss longer queries, you probably should have made a new query instead of bumping this one, with a link to this one in the new one.

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SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
21st Dec, 2020 07:45:13 PM

The ROCEJ thread told me to delete the RL quotes, so taylor's actions on that page are a moot point now, aside from the possibility that they are not who they say they are.

I made a private ATT.

Edited by SkyCat32 Rawr.
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
23rd Dec, 2020 05:58:27 AM

Should I unprivatize my ATT? They still seem to be adding RL examples to NRLEP tropes.

Edited by SkyCat32 Rawr.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Dec, 2020 06:46:01 AM

I mean... Do whatever you want. Did anyone respond to it?

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jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
23rd Dec, 2020 06:59:23 AM

My two sense are yes you should unprivate it. The person is a probably a ban-evader so it's notable for the site.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Dec, 2020 08:20:24 AM

Uh.. That link just leads to ATT.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
23rd Dec, 2020 10:05:56 AM

Just a quick heads up that the cat in question is suspended now.

alnair20aug93 (Long Runner)
26th Dec, 2020 12:48:02 PM

And confirmed it was Johnny.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
26th Dec, 2020 02:51:54 PM

Curious, but how were they able to determine that beyond a doubt?

Ngamer01 Since: Oct, 2010
26th Dec, 2020 03:07:21 PM

^ Let's not give Johnny any more ammo. Could this query be locked as resolved?

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
26th Dec, 2020 03:30:53 PM

^^The moderation team have ways of finding that kind of stuff out, and let's just leave it at that.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
27th Dec, 2020 02:02:31 AM

Aye, this ain't the kind of information we'll share. I see there is another ATT about cleaning up taylorswiftcat's edits so I'll close this one.

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