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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
29th Mar, 2020 09:57:57 AM

Are the works related?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
29th Mar, 2020 10:37:58 AM

There's been some debate on the specifics, but in cases like this usually one page, the other, or both should have the year or some other identifier tacked on to the end. It prevents issues for sub pages because, without that, both the film and the visual novel would go to the same YMMV.Murder By Numbers page.

Simplest thing would probably be create VisualNovel.Murder By Numbers 2020, custom title it to remove the 2020 (which I believe is allowed), and maybe create VisualNovel.Murder By Numbers as a redirect so anyone who uses the name w/o realizing the numbers are supposed to be there.

Edited by sgamer82
DragonRanger (Troper Knight)
29th Mar, 2020 11:23:21 AM

Quick point of correction: Removing the year with a custom title is not allowed. See Administrivia.How To Make A Custom Title.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
29th Mar, 2020 11:28:55 AM

I remember there being some back and forth on this specific instance. Keeping the year when there's multiple versions of the same work is one thing (like DuckTales (1987) and DuckTales (2017)), but I wasn't sure if it was required in a situation like this, where the two works are unrelated and the year is just a disambiguation/collision avoidance measure (Like how VideoGame.Mega Man 1 is just Mega Man, while VideoGame.Mega Man redirects to the Franchise page, to use an off-the-cuff example)

Edited by sgamer82
Piterpicher (Series 2)
29th Mar, 2020 11:48:17 AM

By the way, you didn't really have to disambiguate them, VisualNovel.Murder By Numbers would have been fine. Subpages can always be split by folders or headers, so collision usually isn't an issue (more urgent disambig reasons are custom title differences/radically different character page in same series/a few others). I mean, this stuff is kinda based on preference and I'm against unneeded disambiguation as it's more economical and takes advantage of the namespace system, just telling you so you could do it in the future.

As for removing the number in the title of the first installment, it's an acceptable practice per Administrivia.How To Make A Custom Title, I guess, but years can't really be removed in any case.

Edited by Piterpicher Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods Of Incremental)
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
29th Mar, 2020 11:51:08 AM

I'm on the side of the fence that considers having one subpage for two unrelated works a bad idea, so to me there's no good reason not to disambiguate when and as the situation arises.

Side note: Found the forum thread this was being discussed on

Said thread includes a Sandbox/draft of a rough policy on when there's collisions like this which has, under "Reasons for why people may disambiguate even if it's just same title but different namespace"

Edited by sgamer82
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