DISCUSS pages that MIGHT have to be dealt with

I like "fence". Fences are easy to see through/see over/jump over.

Fence works, too.

As a reminder, the advantage to keeping things on the SFG side is that we get Google ad revenue from those pages, which is our largest source. The more stuff we can keep there, the better. We can't afford to just dump everything over the fence that's too much bother to clean up. (Wow, nice metaphor there!)

Should we rename Mind Rape then? The page itself is probably fine, but I'm not quite sure if the name is.

Shouldn't be any problem with "rape". Concentrate on finding the pages that have either heavy or unavoidable use of the big 7 (or 8 — I think including "asshole" is probably a good idea.)

Here's the Big 7:

• Shit
• Piss
• Fuck
• Cunt
• Cocksucker
• Motherfucker
• Tits

"Asshole" is in a grey area. In some cases, either "piss" or "tits" is ok but "asshole" isn't.

edited 29th Oct '10 3:24:09 PM by Madrugada

Could I ask for a priority on identifying indexes whose items are to be on the other side of the wall? If we could accumulate that list of indexes in one place, it would be very handy.

Testing of the tool to isolate pages will begin sometime Friday evening after 10PM CST (8PM board time).

A quick wikiwalk indicates these indexes might be objectionable depending on the level of censorship:

• Porn Tropes
• Rule of Sexy
• Sex Tropes
• The Oldest Profession
• Rape Tropes
• This Index Is Kinky
• This Index Is Full of Perverts
• Explicit Content
• Gender and Sexuality Tropes
• Fanservice
• Partial Nudity Tropes
• Nudity Tropes
• Keep Abreast Of This Index
• Nothing Butt An Index
• Getting Crap Past the Radar
• These Tropes Should Watch Their Language
• H-Game
• Hentai
• Unmentionables
• Bathing Tropes
• Stripperific

edited 29th Oct '10 3:31:14 PM by Yamikuronue

If an index needs to go on the NSFG side of the wall, does that mean every trope page on it will also be on the NSFG side?

I gotta tell you, coming up with that list makes you seem kind of awesome to me.

I think it should not necessarily be the case with every one of those lists - I mean, nudity's cool in Renaissance art and all that. (So renaissance tropes are also cool or something, I hope you get what I mean even if my expression here sucks.)

EDIT: What, it was ridiculously easy? And here I was imagining you doing hours of work for the sake of keeping out site online.

Maybe you shouldnt've told me. (I made a typo in a word that wasn't supposed to be right in the first place. TWICE.)

edited 29th Oct '10 5:30:45 PM by BestOf

Here are indexes that I cannot see being on the safe side, although a bunch of them contain tropes that are perfectly safe.:

• Bara
• Boys' Love
• Boys Love Tropes
• Brother–Sister Incest
• Cluster F-Bomb
• Darth Wiki
• These Tropes Should Watch Their Language
• Erotic Literature
• Explicit Content

edited 29th Oct '10 3:59:02 PM by Madrugada

@59: Lol, I just remembered we had "Porn Tropes" and started there. Though I will note that searching for "Porn Tropes" is utterly useless as safesearch is on by default.

There's a good idea - any trope Safe Search filters out should probably not be on this side of the fence.

Yami: If you append "&safe=off" (without the quotes) to the end of the URL after making a search, it will return results for you with safe search disabled.

You may have already known this, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

^^^ By the presence of Boys' Love, I take it this means Girls' Love is going to the other side too?

edited 29th Oct '10 9:13:16 PM by Servbot

Probably. I just hadn't gotten that far. There is a metric boatload of indexes on the Index-Index.

@Meeble: Good to know. I usually just go to google proper (where I have safesearch off) and site:tvtropes.org

Ninja'd, nevermind.

edited 29th Oct '10 9:35:22 PM by Willbyr

Um, should Boys' Love and Girls' Love be indexes? Since that could affect the tropes listed, I think the question is valid here.

Boys' Love and Girls' Love are work genres. I may be wrong, but I think we classify those as indexes (indices?).

edited 29th Oct '10 9:53:14 PM by Servbot

Not necessarily. Plus some genres are indexes of works, which can be confusing to also list tropes (why Abridged Series Tropes is a separate page from The Abridged Series).

Every page on a nominated index will initially be put behind the wall. Mods will be able to lift that status from specific pages afterwards.

Too much post-update effort needed by mods on a given index is a good sign the index shouldn't be nominated. It will be easier to wall up specific pages on it after the update.

I would say Turn On Tropes fits that (although the page itself might go behind the curtain), since more pages listed are safe than not safe (although I could double check if asked).

edited 30th Oct '10 8:18:07 AM by DragonQuestZ

Pre-installation help would be handy, here. The indexes in Tropers/Yamikuronue's #57 have been flagged for quarantine.

An exclamation mark will show up next to the article title on the 950 or so pages indicated on those indexes. Can we get some eyeballs checking on them?

Muy thanks!

On the subject of that particular index, it might be advisable to seek some consensus on whether or not we should revert the name back to Fetish Fuel Tropes if it does get behind the Great NSFG Veil.

Oh, and I removed Battle Strip from the Fanservice index to pervent it being put over the wall/fence/border (I like The Border) since it isn't nessary sexual in context. Is this okay?

Merely having something on an index doesn't affect whether it's over the NSFW wall. It's entirely possible to have safe and unsafe tropes on the same index. Pages will be assigned on an individual basis; the initial pass is just to save us the work of manually doing all of them.