The "The Trope" cleanup

Put ~SpaceKABOOM's intro on ComicBook.TheFlash.

Looks good, I fixed a couple wicks.

(#124) Do these characters have large media presence? I'm not too familiar with Marvel Comics but what I pick up is that they stay in the background and rarely appear on-panel. The description in The One Above All even says the same thing.

However, they're not frontended on character description and don't have Trope Codifier sinkholes so I don't have strong enough an opinion to remove them outright. I'd leave it to someone who are more familiar with the topic.

Found this on ComicBook.FantasticFour:

The World's Greatest Heroes. The Fabulous Foursome. The Greatest Team Ever.

Marvel Comics' First Family.

The Superhero Family.

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How much do we keep?

Edited by Univot3 on Feb 29th 2024 at 1:17:32 PM

I'd say the World's Greatest Heroes and First family are keepers as if I recall correctly, they've been referred to those in-universe.

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alright, changed it

Bringing this back from earlier in the thread because it got abandoned:

Here's Spider-Man: The Wallcrawler, the Webhead and the Webslinger. The King of Taunts and Snark. The Everyman Hero. The (non-sidekick) Teen Superhero, The Heart of the Marvel Universe and Company.

He's Amazing! He's Sensational! He's Spectacular!

He's just your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man!

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I'd say at least keep everything below "He's Amazing" but what do you think?

Yeah, delete everything besides He's amazing, etc.

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alright I went and deleted everything you said I should.

Found this on Thor's page:

The Son of Odin. The God of Thunder. The God with the Hammer.

The Superhero God.

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Personally I think it's fine but I wanted to pass it through here as well.

I would rewrite it like Superman and the Flash to expand on why he's those tropes.

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Most people already know why he's those tropes, I don't think we need to explain it.

Considering how "The Trope" intros are not allowed anymore, I was thinking of putting this for Batman's page as an alternative (or something similiar):

He's vengeance. He's the night. He's BATMAN!

Can I do that?

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

It sounds good, though the quote is already used in the page WesternAnimation.Batman The Animated Series itself.

I will go for it then

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

Film.The Good The Bad And The Ugly: The Spaghetti Western film.

This is a good movie, but Sergio Leone's best movie is usually a toss-up between this or Once Upon a Time in the West. Not to mention there are other "greatest hit" Spaghetti Western like Django and They Call Me Trinity. The preface does its job well already, so how about integrating this into it.

Yeah. Definite integration.

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The page itself was somewhat messy, so I split the paragraph into half, cleaned up some, and rewrote it as the following:

"It's had an incredible impact on the entirety of filmmaking since then and often ended up on many "greatest films of all time" lists (though Leone's late film, Once Upon a Time in the West, is cited as its serious competition)."

I found this for X-Men: The Uncanny Misfits. The Children of the Atom. The Strangest Superheroes Of Them All.

The Heroic Outcasts.

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Not to discredit X-Men, but saying it codified Ragtag Bunch of Misfits (which this one is linked to) is a very weird angle, considering it's an old and common trope dating back to folktales. Personally I'd associate X-Men with an allegory of civil rights movement.

I'd recommend a cleanup like the previous comic book pages; switching things around to make the sentences flow better, leave out nicknames by fans (I don't think "The Uncanny Misfits" is official...), etc.

I was wondering that since we're removing the The's from headers, we should probably remove ones from entries too. For instance, on Anime/Potemayo, we have this from Jerkass: Jerkass: Nene isn't just a turquoise-haired, squeaky-voiced jerkass, she's THE turquoise-haired, squeaky-voiced jerkass. Which to me, is a case of Overly Narrow Superlative.

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Anime.Potemayo

I think the issue here doesn't concern this thread. This is more like Administrivia.Zero Context Example, as it doesn't really explain how Nene is Jerkass.

I'll just comment it out then.

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Cleaned up the X-Men page.

Edited by Univot3 on Mar 31st 2024 at 2:59:47 PM

WebVideo.The Angry Video Game Nerd: The Video Review Show.

This format already existed before the internet age like Siskel & Ebert and XPlay even though AVGN is was certainly its gateway of the internet age. AVGN is more known for spreading Mid-Review Sketch Show format, which even the page says so. I'd just cut it and clean up the description a bit.

Yeah, go ahead and cut it due to other video reviewers being around and more well-known long before Rolfe.

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