Worth noting that Overdosed Tropes is not considered JFF.
If I had to guess, Trope Overdosed may have been made JFF at least partly because people are more likely to get into dick-measuring contests with works they're fans of and shoehorn works into tropes they don't fit to inflate their counts. You could argue that's an argument in favor of de-indexing it, since it adds a badge of honor to the page itself, although that's more an issue with works on the verge of making the page since it's not obvious where on the list it is just looking at the index bar.
Yeah, I agree these are unnecessary. Probably have less benefit than awards since all they do is tell you "and here are some other works that have a lot of wicks".
Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 9th 2023 at 9:52:42 AM
It's been about three weeks, so I'm guessing it's okay to go ahead with this?
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)I think we need more consensus.
For the record, to de-indexing.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jun 30th 2023 at 9:28:25 AM
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI am good with de-indexing.
Macron's notesIn addition to deindexing, should they be sent to TRS so that they can be moved to JFF?
Scientia et Libertas | Per Aspera ad Astra NovaTrope Overdosed is already JFF, Overdosed Tropes is not.
I agree that Trope Overdosed shouldn’t be an index, especially since it’s JFF. There’s really no point in being directed to other overdosed works when I’m reading a work page.
I hope this doesn’t count as misplaced necroing of a dormant thread, but I just came here from the thread about indexing award shows.
Edited by GnomeTitan on Dec 26th 2023 at 11:13:56 AM
De-index; it’s already JFF and adds little informational content while bloating index lists.
back lolto de-indexing these "overdosed" JFF things
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectCrowner/Announcement?
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupSure, just so we can get the whole site's opinion
Crowner description:
- Vote UP to stop using "Overdosed" pages as indexes on work pages.
- Vote DOWN to keep using "Overdosed" pages as indexes on work pages.
Options:
- Stop using "Overdosed" pages (Trope Overdosed, Overdosed Tropes, Namespace Overdosed, etc) as indexes for work pages?
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 29th 2023 at 4:40:49 AM
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectNot sure if we'd need a new thread and a new crowner afterward, but we should also do something about Useful Notes as indexes (outside of pages that are being phased into Platform/ that is). Some (like The Renaissance Age of Animation for example) we can definitely do without, while there may be at least a few that can safely be moved (for example, Looney Tunes And Merrie Melodies Filmography can be moved to Looney Tunes, and the associated subpages can be flipped to Recap/).
Oh, and should we make Overdosed Tropes JustForFun/ without TRS action? For some reason, that slipped notice unlike the work-based counterparts and it's definitely in the Not Tropeworthy category.
Figures. Good thing I've got it in the queue.
Edited by GrafVonTirol on Dec 28th 2023 at 9:41:05 AM
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)I am not at all convinced that a trope/index with 15000+ inbounds can be made JFF without a TRS.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanYeah, I agree we should TRS Overdosed Tropes first.
Anyways, is my proposed crowner description and options clear enough?
Because I can hook it if we're good.
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectOk, we seem to be done with the awards index problem.
We can hook the crowner for this one.
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectHooked.
Edit: Made an ATT bulletin.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 2nd 2024 at 4:31:17 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Alright, it's been 3 days
How long should this crowner run?
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectGoing by when the crowner is formed, we still have a few hours before hitting the 72 hour mark.
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)I think it's past the 72-hour mark now. We can call. Ratio seems pretty good on removing the index tags.
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 5th 2024 at 10:52:45 PM
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation projectCrowner is in favor of removing indexing on Overdosed pages. Time to do so.
brb, revving my chainsaw
... and that oughtta do it. Unless there's something I missed.
EDIT: OK, something's up with Trope Overdosed. It doesn't seem to change page type, at all. And even when i removed the indexing markers it still is indexing. What gives?
Edited by GrafVonTirol on Jan 5th 2024 at 7:50:16 AM
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)
Crown Description:
There have been concerns over whether "Overdosed" pages (Trope Overdosed, Overdosed Tropes, Namespace Overdosed, Port Overdosed, Video Overdosed) should act as indexes as several tropers believe it contributes to index bloat and is unecessary. What should be done with them?- Vote UP to stop using "Overdosed" pages as indexes on work pages.
- Vote DOWN to keep using "Overdosed" pages as indexes on work pages.
Seeing the thread on Award Shows reminds me of something else index-wise. It may not be as easy to bloat as something like the Academy Awards, but it's still something that should be considered. I'm saying this as someone who had once contributed to Trope Overdosed back before it's considered JustForFun/: I don't see the point of keeping those as indexes, doubly so now they're JustForFun.
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)