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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Mar 2nd 2022 at 4:04:21 PM

Another suggestion thread spinoff...

Two suggestions:

~Amonimus's

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/maelstronghart.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/maelstronghart_2.png

~DrNoPuma's (possibly needs a crop)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clocksofcontrol1.jpg
It's about time you bowed down to them.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
#2: Mar 2nd 2022 at 4:06:32 PM

1.1 is the better of the suggestions, but neither makes the "fanatics about order and control" clear unless you know the works.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#3: Mar 2nd 2022 at 4:21:49 PM

I've assumed the "big man in a big office with condensending attitude" would look like an authority figure, but it may have needed some leap of logic.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4: Mar 2nd 2022 at 4:23:17 PM

It's been months since I've played the game so I don't know the answer to this without looking it up: does he have a bossier line of dialogue in that location?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#5: Mar 2nd 2022 at 4:26:23 PM

I've really liked the pose (especially with the pocket watch), but I can check through the other scenes later.

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#6: Mar 2nd 2022 at 5:06:47 PM

1.1 looks like an authority figure to me, my issue is more that the clock part isn't as clear.

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#7: Mar 2nd 2022 at 5:43:49 PM

I played the game and I think 1.1 is decent but I would prefer it if the clock/watch elements to be more obvious.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#8: Mar 2nd 2022 at 6:26:47 PM

The image should depict the association between a clock and order/control/strictness/authority in a character. Not seeing that in the examples so far.

Edited by eroock on Mar 2nd 2022 at 6:32:27 AM

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#9: Mar 2nd 2022 at 10:00:29 PM

The clocks are barely visible in all of the suggestions.

harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
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#10: Mar 2nd 2022 at 10:07:02 PM

The Clock King from Batman: The Animated Series, which is already listed on the page, might be a good candidate. Here's two images I found that might work best. Do they convey the "order and control" part of the trope well enough?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clock_king_batman_tas.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clock_king_batman_tas_2.jpg

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#11: Mar 3rd 2022 at 7:36:58 AM

Second is JAFAAC, and the clocks aren’t clear in the first.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12: Mar 3rd 2022 at 8:23:45 AM

We also want to avoid overlap with Clock King.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#13: Mar 5th 2022 at 4:28:13 AM

Lines that sound like imposing authority (not in images since it takes space and the only difference is dialogue box and pose):

  • So, introductions... I am Mael Stronghard, Lord Chief Justice of the British Empire.
  • If others must wait for my attention as a result, so be it.
  • Mr Naruhodo! You've come to me claiming to be a lawyer. If you want me to take you seriously, you need to prove you're willing to do a lawyer's job.
  • If you manager to secure a verdict of not guilty, you'll have passed my test.
  • I am the Lord Chief Justice. And I've decided it's acceptable.
  • You've enjoyed some victories in court against my number one prosecutor, have you not?
  • As of this moment, I reinstate your license to practice law here in Great Britain!

Also have considered.. since the character announces his plans down to seconds, and Clock King shows "clock motif" and not someone's very precise with time, maybe replace that image if this one isn't good enough for Clocks of Control?

  • I have nineteen minutes and forty-one seconds until my next engagement. ...Time enough to talk.
  • Hmph. It seems I'm one hour, twelve minutes and... forty-secen seconds late. My apologies.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 14th 2022 at 6:50:50 PM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14: Mar 7th 2022 at 9:15:25 AM

I was about to make a crowner but ^ made me think... this is the full art on Clock King. Does the positioning make him look like an overbearing clock-themed guy, or just 'clock-themed villain'?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clockking.png

I definitely think Stronghart saying "I have nineteen minutes and forty-one seconds until my next engagement. ...Time enough to talk." is better than this picture for Clock King at any rate.

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 7th 2022 at 11:15:58 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#15: Mar 7th 2022 at 9:43:25 AM

I think the Clock King shows the Trope Namer and not the trope, so I think that one should be moved regardless. I think the uncrop of Clock King looks intimidating enough for Clocks of Control.

I'm fine with Stronghart at either Clock King or Clocks of Control with either of the quotes, would like more opinions on Clock King first though while at it.

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Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:08:00 AM

I like the uncropped for Clocks of Control, it has that nice sinister villain's lair in-control vibe. With that in mind, Clock King (the character) is an example but the current pic could be stronger, so I'd support using the uncork in Clocks of Control.

Maybe switch Clock King's pic with this one from the The Little Prince (2015) movie of the mom and her "life plan" for her daughter.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clock_king_little_prince_0.png

And using a closeup of the daily activities and croupier.
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clock_king_little_prince_1.png

Edited by Earnest on Mar 7th 2022 at 12:08:29 PM

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17: Mar 9th 2022 at 9:06:32 AM

Hooked a crowner for Clocks of Control. Let's resolve this before thinking of something else for Clock King (putting [up] on hold for now), since moving the current image over to here might not even get consensus.

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 9th 2022 at 11:06:41 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18: Mar 11th 2022 at 8:21:25 AM

Votes bump, one in cosnensus range.

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: Mar 12th 2022 at 5:52:47 PM

Superconsensus for 14. It's in and tagged, and the current pic on Clock King is removed:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/clockkinggloat_7907.jpg
"It will take you precisely three minutes and seventeen seconds to read through this article; 2.63 seconds longer than it will take for me to rob you blind."

Caption ideas?

Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#20: Mar 12th 2022 at 7:04:05 PM

[up]"Watch out Titans, our he'll clock you out with time puns!"

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#21: Mar 12th 2022 at 10:22:42 PM

[up] Better than nothing? Could help showing "control" more though.

I'll just push the Clock King suggestion to a new thread after this one closes.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 12th 2022 at 9:24:14 PM

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#22: Mar 12th 2022 at 10:25:06 PM

Aw, I like the old caption on Clock King and it probably doesn’t work here.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#23: Mar 12th 2022 at 10:28:21 PM

e: nvm

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 12th 2022 at 9:28:45 PM

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Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#24: Mar 13th 2022 at 6:40:48 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I liked the original caption too, but it's really more geared for the Clock King trope. =/

Embracing a subtler kind of punnditry, how about: "His Evil Plan makes heroes seem minute, they won't get a second chance to escape his control."

petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#25: Mar 13th 2022 at 11:45:21 AM

[up]I like that one. Although it also fits more to Clock King.

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