Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
The Moron
You want the general Characters cleanup for that one bro
Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Sep 16th 2021 at 5:38:43 AM
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Unsure what to do with the Sherlock Holmes one. But I mean if we do it with Michael why not Freddy. Give me a bit.
And done. A Nightmare On Elm Street Freddy Krueger all together came out to long enough. Also made Star Trek: The Original Series - Khan Noonien Singh, as it was big enough at 48,048 bytes while leaving both pages lough enough without them.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 17th 2021 at 2:17:29 PM
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Onto Korra/Avatar and here are some that could get their own page.
Zaheer (41,343 bytes), Bolin (53,855 bytes), Uncle Iroh (49,942 bytes), Sokka (43,593 bytes), and Toph (60,110 bytes). I can see maybe giving Zaheer, Iroh, and Toph one. Bolin and Sokka can probably wait as that will probably leave the OG pages to small.
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小柏 カイ
Hey there, this is in regards to Neon Genesis Evangelion's character page.
Three of the five characters in The Children page approximately have around 50,000-70,000 bytes range (Shinji is approximately 59,375 bytes, Asuka is approximately 76,345 bytes and Kaworu approximately 52,534 bytes).
Is it okay if they can get separate pages?
And side note Gendo's folder in NERV page is approximately 40,477 bytes although I'm not sure if It's alright to separate his page at the moment.
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I suppose they're long enough to make their own page, but is there a need to do so? If none of the Avatar pages are too long on their own, why make another character page?
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That is why I asked here. Yeah there is no need.
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@RinneSharinganCatalyst go for it for the three Children
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Della Duck from DuckTales (2017) is 42,604 bytes. Webby Vanderquack is 41,671 bytes.
I'll probably make the pages myself later on (it's after 2 AM in my timezone, no way am I doing it now), but I'm posting her just in case I forget or can't do it.
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Sep 20th 2021 at 2:26:32 PM
小柏 カイ
Y'know I'm surprised Final Fantasy doesn't have individual character pages yet, for example Sephiroth is near 60,000 bytes when I checked and Noctis and Ardyn from Final Fantasy 15 are about 54,000 and 63,000 bytes respectively.
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Duck Tales 2017 Flintheart Glomgold and Duck Tales 2017 Bradord Buzzard also meet the size requirement
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@RinneSharinganCatalyst feel free to make Character Specific Pages for Sephiroth, Noctis Lucis Caelum, and Ardyn Izunia if you feel so — they surpass the byte req by a sizable amount
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Aren't the FF 7 pages locked?
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Final Fantasy VII: Playable Characters is, but most aren't.
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Oh okay. Sure make a Sephiroth page. Kind of surprise there isn't one already.
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Also just a reminder whenever making Character Specific Pages to add them to the index, format it with the tropes split under different folders and with "open/close all folders" before them, and adding them to the Character Specific Pages Byte Check, using a byte counter like this
Webby and Della are done.
For some reason, it's not letting me do one for Glomgold or Bradford. Every time I click "Edit Page", I get redirected to the Trope Launch Pad. Guess there's a limit for how many pages I can make at a time.
EDIT: I figured out the problem. I forgot to add the "/" after Characters. Fixed and the pages are up.![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Sep 23rd 2021 at 4:13:30 AM
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Someone made MCU: Ghost Rider at 38,501 bytes.
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Cut it then.
Done. I would have been more fine with it if a Mack was listed on it or Coulson didn't already have his own page.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 23rd 2021 at 10:51:23 AM
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Vilgax from Ben 10 is 51,946 bytes. I am thinking of giving him a page.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 23rd 2021 at 1:14:09 PM
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Goku Black
Sounds a good idea.
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I'm confused: Apparently Deadshot was merged, but he still has his own page (which is rather small).
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The Formatter
Im not really sure whats that's about. I had moved it into the batman rogues section but someone moved it to the Deadshot characters page. I might have forgot to update the merges page.
Edited by GateStarX on Sep 24th 2021 at 10:30:12 AM
It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Tangentially related, but are Mortal Kombat 1 Part 1 & Mortal Kombat 1 Part 2 small enough to be merged?
Ditto for Mortal Kombat 2 Part 1 & Mortal Kombat II Part 2.
Edited by ACW on Sep 16th 2021 at 7:04:15 AM
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