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So, it's been a trend for soft-split tropes to be split into multiple sections even when it's not needed and makes the page a hassle to navigate. In some cases, the trope in question is so large that hard-splitting some (or all) of the internal subtropes into their pages is more beneficial than letting them take over the page.

EDIT: Here’s the sandbox for this effort—Sandbox.Soft Split Cleanup

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 4th 2022 at 10:16:08 AM

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#451: May 5th 2023 at 6:48:00 PM

[up] I would prefer to un-soft split them.

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#452: May 15th 2023 at 9:55:38 AM

Never Gets Drunk has three subtypes: too stoic, too silly and "just never gets drunk". Remove?

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#453: May 16th 2023 at 9:06:46 PM

Yeah, those divisions aren't necessary.

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#454: May 16th 2023 at 9:07:05 PM

Home and Garden's current examples categories include some subgenres, an "others" section, parodies & homages, non-TV, and "off the wall" (whatever that means). In short, it's an incoherent mess that doesn't follow the wiki's policies. I think it should be sorted by media just like every other trope.

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#455: May 17th 2023 at 7:50:20 AM

[up][up] Agreed.

Yeah, looks like the soft split should be removed.

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#456: May 17th 2023 at 8:02:47 AM

On a related note, Immune to Drugs is similarly soft-split to "inexplicable immunity" and "justified immunity". Also remove?

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#457: May 17th 2023 at 2:14:01 PM

^ I think we can stand to remove that soft split

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#458: May 18th 2023 at 6:38:50 PM

Agreed to removing the soft split of Immune to Drugs.

[up][up][up]Great, I'll proceed to do that.

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#459: May 18th 2023 at 6:44:21 PM

Bringing this up again:

Should some of the sections under Blow That Horn be hardsplit or should the soft split just be undone?

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#460: May 18th 2023 at 7:02:10 PM

It should be undone and each type's description should be added to the trope's description. I don't see any good reason for them to be categorized, since there's overlap sometimes.

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EthanLac Since: Oct, 2015
#461: May 20th 2023 at 4:20:33 AM

Breather Boss has folders for some specific game series, and then lumps everything else into an unfoldered list at the bottom. Should folders be added? If so, should the top folders be moved to subpages?

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#462: May 20th 2023 at 4:31:55 AM

[up] I'd rather remove the folders, by making the subpages preferably. Tales one is kind of short, so it can be inserted to the main list.

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EthanLac Since: Oct, 2015
#463: May 20th 2023 at 5:24:07 AM

[up] Okay. I'll go merge the Tales section and move the rest to subpages.

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#464: May 23rd 2023 at 12:39:23 PM

Phoney Call is split into "the four varieties"... and a fifth folder for "other", because every time someone decides there are exactly N subtypes of a thing someone comes up with a counterexample.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
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#465: May 23rd 2023 at 12:43:15 PM

Yeah, I'd de-soft split that page.

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#466: Jun 9th 2023 at 6:11:40 PM

I removed three of the Pop-Cultural Osmosis Failure subpages, but does the page need to be split in the first place?

Edited by randomtroper89 on Jun 9th 2023 at 8:11:47 AM

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#467: Jun 19th 2023 at 3:50:06 PM

^Probably not.

Does Black Comedy Rape need 8 sections? Does it matter who the rapist and victim is? I feel like this was brought up before

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 19th 2023 at 6:54:41 AM

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#468: Jun 24th 2023 at 5:13:46 AM

Since we already have Ass Shove, Bestiality Is Depraved, and rape double-standard tropes, I don't think the split is necessary.

Edited by Asterlix on Jun 24th 2023 at 7:15:00 AM

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#469: Jun 25th 2023 at 3:04:25 AM

[up][up]I asked that in a previous page, but didn't get a response so nothing was done.

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#470: Jun 25th 2023 at 4:15:05 AM

Ohh,looks like I missed your post somehow then.

EDIT: I created Sandbox.Black Comedy Rape for the un-split because there's a lot of examples and categories to go through.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 25th 2023 at 7:18:08 AM

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#471: Jun 25th 2023 at 1:20:45 PM

Okay, it's taken me a while to get around to doing this. However, as per this post, I've removed the soft-split for Horse of a Different Colour.

There were so many duplicate entries, it was unreal. Anyway, I think I've got everything. I haven't alphabetised every folder, but I did manage to get several of them (including some of the really long folders). The question is now whether some of the folders should be turned into sub-pages. In particular, Literature, Tabletop Games and Video Games might be worth splitting out.

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#472: Jun 28th 2023 at 5:07:50 PM

YMMV.Shadow Of The Colossus has a really weird soft-split related to specific characters/elements. Is this allowed, or not?

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#473: Jul 12th 2023 at 7:08:15 PM

Robot Names is soft-split into eight sections based on different naming patterns. Macron suggested merging the sections here and I agree.

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#474: Jul 15th 2023 at 10:14:42 AM

Always Identical Twins is split into straight examples and aversions.

Since this isn't an omnipresent trope, the aversion section should be removed right? Otherwise we just have a list of every twin that shows up in media, no?

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#475: Jul 15th 2023 at 10:16:01 AM

It's not omnipresent, but it is a trope in aggregate, so.

But yeah aversions seem unnecessary.

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