Misused: Free The Frogs

FYI, the entry on Tropes Needing TRS said "Is now misused for freeing of any captive animal (even the video example is misused, and also isn't in a school setting at all) instead of freeing frogs or any other animal intended for dissection.", so that was their idea, not mine. Besides, the unclear/ZCE folder being this large seems like a problem that wouldn't be solved by checking again anyway.

Edited by Piterpicher on Feb 13th 2021 at 11:55:15 AM

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Aw, just as I was starting to think the name might not be the issue at hand here. Well...shucks. Eh, a rename won't hurt as long as we can find something good.

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In case this gets morgued, summary of thread:

Discussed these as potential names

• Save The Specimen
• Save The Specimen From Science
• Disrupt The Dissection

Before coming to a realization that the wick check seems too narrowly focused?

How about Save Our Specimens?

Kirby is awesome.

Is there actually a problem with the trope?

We just want to expand it. I'm honestly no longer convinced that a name change will do anything of value.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

I guess the description could be rewritten to place less emphasis on frogs/science class?

Yeah, let's focus on the description for now. We can worry about renaming later.

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Like... replace "frog" with "animal" and pare the description?

In many shows set in a High School, there is an episode where everyone must dissect an animal (usually frogs) in science class.

A character (usually an Animal Lover) will question whether it is morally acceptable to kill the creatures For Science!. The teacher will usually inform the objecting character that not doing the dissection will result in a failing grade. There are two standard directions the show can go at this point:

1. If the show follows the Science Is Bad trope, the character will conclude that it is wrong to kill the specimens, and they will find or create an opportunity to free them, accept the failing grade or, in the more extreme examples, actually convert the teacher and the rest of the class to their stand.
2. If the show is using Honor Before Reason, the main character will refuse to kill their own critter and accept the failing grade, but will not attempt to free any others, concluding that it is wrong to impose one's own values on others.

A variation of the trope is the student trying to save the class pet are still possible, in which the animal was never in danger of dissection and the objecting student feels it's wrong to keep it in captivity at all.

For various reasons, the dissection variation is mostly a Discredited Trope.

The character may go on to join an Animal Wrongs Group. See also Escaped Animal Rampage.

That looks good.

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Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

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OK, swapped the above.

Okay, now that that is done, are we going ahead with the rename or are we good to close?

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report

The expanded description is clearer now, and I'm sure a rename won't fix the ZCE/unclear examples. I think we're good to close.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 16th 2021 at 4:36:35 AM

Yeah I also think we are good to close.

Macron's notes

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

Meh, OK, I'll close.

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