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SingingRain Since: Nov, 2011
#1: Nov 22nd 2018 at 10:29:08 AM

The name of this trope makes it sound like it's only for anime, but it covers other genres like Western Animation, Live-Action TV, etc. This is causing problems with how it's used on This Very Wiki; with related links in 50 Anime pages, 26 Visual Novel pages, compared to 5 links to Western Animation pages, and 1 link to a Series page.

I think the trope should be renamed to Video Game Adaptations, though on the discussion page it's also suggested The Show of the Game or The Series Of The Game.

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#2: Nov 23rd 2018 at 9:06:34 AM

I could get behind turning The Show of the Game from a redirect to the page's real title.

Video Game Adaptations sounds like it's about adapting other works into video games.

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#4: Nov 23rd 2018 at 10:53:49 AM

[up][up] I agree, too. [tup]

Edited by Primis on Nov 23rd 2018 at 11:54:29 AM

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#5: Nov 23rd 2018 at 12:41:47 PM

I don't really think the current title is a problem. It's called "The Anime of the Game" since it's most common in Japan (through Western cartoons based on video games were rather common in the 80s and 90s), which explains why most of the wicks are anime and visual novels, but Tropes Are Flexible.

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SingingRain Since: Nov, 2011
#6: Nov 23rd 2018 at 9:46:06 PM

[up] That sounds great in theory, but in practice nobody wants to call a non-anime show "The Anime of the Game".

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#7: Nov 28th 2018 at 5:02:39 PM

Animated Adaptation also already exists. This feels like another one of those cases were Japanophiles just want an unnecessarily Japan-specific trope.

Rename it to something region agnostic.

Edited by Karxrida on Nov 28th 2018 at 5:07:23 AM

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#8: Nov 28th 2018 at 6:33:29 PM

[up] It's mostly a sub-trope of Animated Adaptation, but also includes live-action TV shows based on video games (there are so few of those we don't need a separate trope).

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#10: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:19:56 PM

[up]If we were to rename it to Video Game Adaptations, should it be merged with Video Game Movies?

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#11: Nov 30th 2018 at 6:35:42 PM

^ Sure, one index page for this kind of adaptation suffices.

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#12: Nov 30th 2018 at 9:32:46 PM

I think the main problem is that this is a trope put on derivative works about the previous work.

I don't think we need to trope "the original work was from the [medium]", and would prefer to merge/cut all such pages into "this work is an adaptation in [medium]".

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#13: Nov 30th 2018 at 10:39:01 PM

[up] I think indexing adaptations of video games could have a purpose, but many examples on The Anime of the Game have context, while Video Game Movies is purely an index.

Even now, the lines between the two are blurred. Do OVAs count as movies, particularly if they're a single episode? Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is on both pages.

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SingingRain Since: Nov, 2011
#14: Dec 1st 2018 at 1:44:27 AM

[up] Yeah, while I was doing the TLP for Video Game Stories, I was actually considering making an index titled Video Game Adaptations (with Video Game Movies being a sub-index). But then I found The Anime of the Game and brought it here, bringing us full circle. However, my main concern right now is still how the trope's title doesn't match the content.

Edited by SingingRain on Dec 1st 2018 at 2:46:11 AM

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#15: Dec 1st 2018 at 7:15:43 AM

Do OV As count as movies, particularly if they're a single episode? Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is on both pages.
Yes. Because Anime means "cartoon", and people will add additional restrictions on that word. For our namespaces, it means "Japanese cartoon", and for our media categories, it means "Japanese cartoon television series". Advent Children is a CGI cartoon movie from Japan, so people would naturally put it in "this adaptation is a Japanese cartoon" and "this adaptation is a movie" lists.

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#16: Dec 1st 2018 at 10:37:15 AM

[up]Yet I don't see Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, also a Japanese CGI-animated movie, on The Anime of the Game (nor do I think it should be there), but it is on Video Game Movies. Is that because it has a more realistic style than Advent Children?

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#17: Dec 1st 2018 at 12:27:09 PM

[up] The Spirits Within isn't an adaptation.

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#18: Dec 1st 2018 at 12:29:53 PM

Nor is Advent Children; it's a Sequel in Another Medium.

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#19: Dec 6th 2018 at 3:19:05 AM

By that logic, Overtook the Manga should be renamed too since it has examples where the source material isn't manga, even though the majority of examples are.

[down]I was talking to people who wanted to rename the page, not about your last post.

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#20: Dec 6th 2018 at 5:36:55 AM

Overtook the Manga should be renamed too since it has examples where the source material isn't manga
Yes. If a problem isn't demonstrated, it won't be changed.

By that logic,
Huh? What logic? I'm not seeing the connection between what I've said and renaming tropes.

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#21: Dec 26th 2018 at 1:13:06 AM

[up][up] If the name Overtook the Manga is creating problems for cross-wicking non-manga examples, then maybe that trope should be renamed too.

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#22: Dec 26th 2018 at 5:01:37 AM

^ I would support the rename and perhaps a policy to avoid such things in future.

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#23: Dec 26th 2018 at 11:39:09 AM

I think the reason this page exists is that Visual Novel-> Anime adaptations are very common, almost as common as Manga -> Anime, and due to the Animesque style and tendency to use some similar tropes in visual novels, they can be adapted with relatively little change. Whereas video game movies (or adaptations from other game genres) are more likely to fall into Video Game Movies Suck.

I'm not sure if this was the case when this was opened, but The Show of the Game now exits as a redirect.

Edited by naturalironist on Dec 26th 2018 at 2:39:21 PM

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#24: Dec 26th 2018 at 12:28:26 PM

VN to Anime and JRPG to Anime conversions are made in the same abridging the full game episode to episode style that always ends up lacking in the same departments.

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#25: Jan 26th 2019 at 1:00:03 AM

Clock is set.

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