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Sep 21st 2019 at 5:19:13 PM

Not to mention Solo had turbulent behind-the-scenes mismanagementnote , that, besides causing the first official teaser coming three months before the film's official release as a consequence, they were also highly publicized, causing people to lose interest (not to mention it's impossible to match Harrison Ford, which this made people uninterested first in a Han Solo prequel film), and coming too soon after the very divisive The Last Jedi, and being pitted against Avengers: Infinity Warnote  and Deadpool 2note . I feel very sorry for Solo, and I believe this movie suffered a massive case of bad luck. I will watch it soon, in the Star Wars season.note 

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Sep 21st 2019 at 5:54:29 PM

I can't remember if it was James Rolfe, or someone else from Cinemassacre, but I remember a comment that the Solo movie felt like someone's online fanfiction that got picked up by Disney and turned into a movie. That's... a pretty accurate statement on how the movie feels. It just feels like someone's fanfiction brought to life.

One issue I had was Solo having a love interest in the film, and to me is one of the reasons why prequels don't really work.

We know Solo ends up with Leia, so why should we be invested in this romance? Throughout the film i kept thinking, "This woman either ends up killed, or becomes a villain." Turns out I was right about the villain part. So when the "twist" happens, it's really not that surprising.

I loved the nod to the "Han shot first" meme though.

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Sep 21st 2019 at 6:07:04 PM

I actually feel that way about the sequels in general, fan fiction has a tendency to replicate characters, events and even dialogue word-for-word (theoretically because these are budding writers who only know imitation, not original development). It's exemplified by Rey and Finn's personality traits, they act LIKE Star Wars fans getting to quote lines and reference events from their heroes.

Solo, if anything, felt A LOT more focused on being a Space Western, it doesn't get distracted by extra characters or unnecessary sideplots. It's certainly not perfect, but considering the production history it's a lot more coherent than you'd expect.

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Sep 21st 2019 at 6:13:32 PM

Y'all are too tough on fanfic, there are so many writers there who are willing to mine little details and explore outstanding directions that the canon material is too cowardly to cover. tongue

If anything, Solo didn't feel that different to me from an EU book. An entertaining diversion, but stuck in the shadow of its predecessor and too caught up in inserting references but explaining little about character development. Sometimes it raises interesting ideas, but it never has the chance to explore them because it's railroaded into leading up to something else. And seeing how much of the film surprisingly showed up in Star Wars Land, being a tie-in to advertise a bigger producer is exactly what it was meant as, just like an EU book.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 21st 2019 at 6:17:04 AM

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Sep 21st 2019 at 7:48:50 PM

Solo also thematically matched Lucas’ original pulp-throwback stylings more than most of the franchise. It felt a lot like the kind of movie Lucas would have made, for better or for worse.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 21st 2019 at 7:50:58 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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Sep 21st 2019 at 10:12:10 PM

I think its main flaw was trying to put too much gravitas and drama into the proceedings, when something more like Smokey and the Bandit IN SPACE! would have been a better fit.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:10:16 AM

I think it honestly just needed a stronger actor for Han, if this was the direction they wanted to go. This should have been Han's (and Chewie's and Lando's) journey into the characters that they were by Episodes 4 and 5. Han needed to be really optimistic and naieve in the film and the plot needed to beat him into the pessimistic 'I shot first' rogue he eventually becomes. Quira's betrayal of Han needed to be deeper personally and it needed to be earlier so we could see Han's character break and reshape itself to something that's more akin to what we know later.

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Sep 23rd 2019 at 7:59:32 AM

Is Charming still in production?

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Sep 25th 2019 at 6:21:48 PM

Nostalgia Critic review of Aladdin and I'd say Doug gave it a fair shake as to what's improved in live action, what works and what doesn't.

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Sep 26th 2019 at 7:30:58 AM

Copy from another thread.

[up]Just watch the Aladdin review and he make some really good point:

- They don't make much effort cause they assume people have already watched the original and use the original goodwill to help sell the movie. Which kinda defeat the point of selling the movies to a new generation.

- A lot of useless talk about a place we never see in the movie. At least show the place during A Whole New World. It the Phantom Menace problem of pointless political talk that contribute nothing to the movie. And it give Phantom Menace point since i can see it the point of those scene, to frustrate the audience like how the main cast feel.

- Character generally less expression and most of the actors can't capture the emotion showed in the original, even the magic carpet turned into a plot device rather than a character.

- Replace the giant snake with giant perrot. Maybe they don't want the kid to be afraid.

Edited by BattleRaizer on Sep 26th 2019 at 9:31:46 PM

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
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Sep 26th 2019 at 6:10:10 PM

Five bucks that the Little Mermaid remake turns Ursula into a relative of Ariel's. Both A Tale Of... and The Little Mermaid made her Ariel's aunt and the other remakes have taken some influence from What Could Have Been.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Sep 30th 2019 at 8:30:56 AM

Sep 29th 2019 at 2:43:28 PM

The live-action "Snow White" remake begins shooting next Spring.

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Sep 29th 2019 at 2:46:52 PM

> Five bucks that the Little Mermaid remake turns Ursula into a relative of Ariel's

Ever since I learned Ursula was originally King Tritan's sister in early scripts I've had this mental image of the little mermaid but Ariel is less fish more squid/octopus and that means..tentacles

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Sep 30th 2019 at 8:30:31 PM

[up][up] I didn't think it'd come out so quickly. Disney is pushing 3+ remakes a year now.

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Oct 4th 2019 at 3:01:44 PM

Anyone 'member when Disney did a movie on Inspector Gadget back in 1999 (literally 20 years ago)?

They're trying it again.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 4th 2019 at 6:03:01 AM

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Oct 4th 2019 at 3:40:24 PM

[up]They can’t even remake Robocop properly. Why Gadget? At this point someone should just make an adaptation of Robot Detective K.

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 4th 2019 at 6:41:41 AM

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Oct 4th 2019 at 4:09:22 PM

Say what you want about the original movie, but the sequel's a very Guilty Pleasure of mine.

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Oct 4th 2019 at 5:59:28 PM

Likewise.

Either way, this can’t be any worse than the most recent revival Gadget had, plus it gives me an excuse to dust off that old revival pilot I once made.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Oct 4th 2019 at 6:31:19 PM

Someone on Twitter suggested having Paul Rudd in the title role and...

I want to see that now. Like, I can't unsee it.

(Real talk, this came out of nowhere. Next, they'll be wanting to bring back Madeline.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 4th 2019 at 9:31:56 AM

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Oct 5th 2019 at 7:56:17 AM

[up][up] Was that revival pilot the one I saw promoted as being in development back in 2008, or is it fan-made?

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Oct 5th 2019 at 11:46:32 AM

So, what actor you think should play Dr. Claw based on his toy design?

I remember way back when, people suggesting Malcolm McDowall.

Edited by Brandon on Oct 5th 2019 at 11:48:00 AM

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Oct 5th 2019 at 12:48:33 PM

I mean, there’s a reason no Gadget anything has ever since canonized that design.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

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