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nrjxll Relationship Status: Not war
Oct 15th 2015 at 6:30:37 PM

It's been a while since I've paid any attention to this, so I need a reminder: how does someone bring something to the attention of the P5, if we're talking about a proposal rather than an existing page?

SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Oct 16th 2015 at 12:06:46 AM

Through the 5P policy thread.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
Jan 3rd 2016 at 5:16:16 PM

Parent Service is coming across as pretty greasy at the moment, and may need a walk through the Trope Repair Shop if we want to turn it into something other than who/what tropers find sexy in kids' shows.

What's precedent ever done for us?
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Jan 3rd 2016 at 8:40:01 PM

Yes, we should remove Evil Is Sexy from Orphan. We are not calling small children sexy.

edited 3rd Jan '16 8:40:24 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Jan 3rd 2016 at 8:50:45 PM

Parent Service has enough invocations, discussions, lampshadings, and Word of God examples to support a page, but it does need a good scrubbing.

Feb 16th 2016 at 5:39:47 AM

So does this mean Lolita now violates the Content Policy?

Karxrida Happy Holidays! Art by @anoderp from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Happy Holidays! Art by @anoderp
Feb 16th 2016 at 6:47:50 AM

Lolita is exempt due to being academically significant and demonizing pedophilia.

edited 16th Feb '16 6:48:43 AM by Karxrida

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TheOneWhoTropes FUROR APOCALYPTUS! MAGUS CALAMITOSIS! from Newton-Le-Willows, England (Quaint Town) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Feb 17th 2016 at 3:19:05 AM

[up][up]No. That was decided years ago, when Fast Eddie was in charge.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
Feb 17th 2016 at 6:40:37 AM

Fast Eddie had to be hit over the head with a sledgehammer regarding Lolita tongue , but after that it was voted to stay. Paraphrasing one person arguing for it to be kept, the main character's attempts to justify his behavior just make him look more and more terrible. That's why it's not going anywhere.

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hamza678 Red Like Santa from Christmas Beacon.
Red Like Santa
Feb 17th 2016 at 9:13:03 AM

What about Kodomo no Jikan?

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Irene Drathe Perrywinkle from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 and 4571-1389-1915 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Drathe Perrywinkle
Feb 17th 2016 at 9:17:40 AM

It's not a matter of Admin Fiat so much that anybody who read it can tell it violates the Content Policy to a horrid degree. The story makes an attempt to condemn pedophilia, but clearly supports it by the story's design as well.

Admin Fiat just happened to happen, but there's no need to reevaluate it when it blatantly would never make it.

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Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Feb 17th 2016 at 10:27:29 AM

[up] Bingo. There's so much loli fanservice that it completely undermines the overall intent of the story. It didn't help that the page at one point was loaded with scanlation links pointing to said fanservice and other not-so-savory stuff. Attempts were made to clean the page up and get rid of any inherent creepiness to its tone but it was deemed unsalvageable.

The only way I could see it and some other cut works brought back would be as example-less stub pages, much like what was agreed upon with FATAL.

edited 17th Feb '16 10:31:26 AM by Willbyr

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Feb 28th 2016 at 8:17:39 AM

edited 2nd Sep '17 1:09:36 PM by YasminPerry

Jun 13th 2016 at 8:30:50 PM

Best Known for the Fanservice is very pervy. I'd clean it up, but most of the examples make me go ewww.

HamburgerTime Splendid Ap is in your garage rebooting your can from Bedlam Pulsar Relationship Status: I know
Splendid Ap is in your garage rebooting your can
Jun 13th 2016 at 8:33:17 PM

This is probably old news, but has Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid been looked at? It's apparently about lesbians who gain superpowers by having sex with each other, and the sex is at least explicit enough to frequently show bare breasts (unsure about genitals though).

edited 13th Jun '16 8:33:31 PM by HamburgerTime

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Jun 13th 2016 at 8:42:17 PM

No genitals in that show.

Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Jun 16th 2016 at 2:18:59 PM

Valkyrie Drive does go a bit further than your typical ecchi (direct fetish-pandering, on-screen sex, etc) but as previously mentioned:

1. Never shows genitals

2. Aired on public Japanese television (albeit censored)

3. Everyone involved in sexual activity is 16 or older.

However, I'd be for a P5 investigation if it makes others feel more comfortable...except for the fact that we don't have much of a P5 right now. There was a selection process thing announced a few weeks ago, I dunno how that's going...

edited 16th Jun '16 2:19:37 PM by Assassin-sensei

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JHM Thunder, Perfect Mind from Neither Here Nor There Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Thunder, Perfect Mind
Jul 12th 2016 at 6:28:29 PM

Lover and Beloved seriously needs a good hard look, example-wise, but I'm not sure what's best cut and where. I obviously don't think that we should torch the examples section, or even necessarily cut most of the examples assuming that they fit, but some of those descriptions are way out of line,

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TPPR10 Maid of Salem from Suomus Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Maid of Salem
Jul 21st 2016 at 7:00:53 AM

On Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid, one of characters is actually 15 years old (the dark-skinned one from the page image), but everyone else in the series is over 16 (I believe). There is a supplementary material what gives a Fridge Horror of sexual activities being done to a 9+ year old, but nothing of that kind is actually told in the side story, and even after a five year time skip, nothing explicit is told in it.

edited 21st Jul '16 7:04:58 AM by TPPR10

Adannor from effin' belarus Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Sep 9th 2016 at 11:42:16 PM

The Rock Cocks has floated up in the queue. While the comic doesn't seem to be porn enough to just nuke it without P5, some of the stuff on the pages is over the line

  • First off, tumblr link. It only has cropped links to the actual pages, but also has posts of outright sexually explicit fanart.
  • Second, page illustrations. A bunch on the character page have nudity, ranging from bare asses to outright a cock peeking out.

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Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Sep 10th 2016 at 8:32:20 AM

[up] The NSFW character pics and Tumblr link need to be snipped. As for the comic itself, what little I've seen of it gives me a Plot With Porn impression...Oglaf levels of explicitness, for sure.

edited 10th Sep '16 8:35:49 AM by Willbyr

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Adannor from effin' belarus Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Sep 10th 2016 at 8:56:55 AM

Ok, snipped the direct site links. I left the link to patreon as that frontpage is SFW and links to the actual comic, so it kinda works as a gate check.

Pics cut: a lot of nudity here, naked bum there and there

edited 10th Sep '16 9:01:01 AM by Adannor

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Adannor from effin' belarus Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 7th 2016 at 11:53:38 PM

Ok a bit of a question - does wicks cleanup for P5 cuts go here or in some of the wick cleaning threads.

Anyway, I'll drop off the Related pages for Squad Broken and ryona genre (damn that's a lot of inbounds) as a memo to look through.

edited 7th Dec '16 11:54:08 PM by Adannor

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SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Dec 8th 2016 at 12:54:04 AM

Wick cleanup is not usually within the scope of 5P work at all, seeing as we still allow examples for 5P-cut works.

Adannor from effin' belarus Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 8th 2016 at 1:40:41 AM

Yes, but there's still the rule that the examples themselves must be not about the sex parts.

And ryona is a genre. That's a bit of it's own deal - do we need that pointing out from works in which a female gets some battle damage?

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