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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#89576: Sep 26th 2018 at 11:16:54 AM

Iron Man 2. There's some threat of collateral damage toward the end, but for the most part the only person in danger the entire film is Tony himself, whether it be by palladium poisoning or an angry Russian dude trying to 1-v-1 him.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#89577: Sep 26th 2018 at 11:45:01 AM

Some more Avengers 4 leaks with Iron Man, War Machine and Hawkeye's new looks.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#89578: Sep 26th 2018 at 1:04:26 PM

Iron Man is looking very classic there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#89579: Sep 26th 2018 at 1:07:36 PM

Its important to keep the epic world threatning shit to once in every loooong while.

Because if you lose the personal & small-scale threats you basically wind up with a shonen.

And I'll be damned if the MCU turns into fucking Dragon Ball or Naruto.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89580: Sep 26th 2018 at 1:19:56 PM

I am REALLY digging the new tank-like, Hulkbuster-lite War Machine design.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#89582: Sep 26th 2018 at 2:59:47 PM

Da good anime though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#89583: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:57:55 PM

[up][up]I half expect Iron man to shout is atack against Thanos.

And for some reason, I almost expect Thanos to be dubed by norio wakamoto, dont know why.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#89584: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:08:14 PM

Odd realization concerning Bruce,he's effectively possessed by himself,which makes the Hulk a demon,it also means if anything else even tried to possess Bruce they would be blocked by the Hulk being the dominate entity

New theme music also a box
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#89585: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:11:29 PM

If Infinity War homages Berserk, then what might Avengers 4 homage? Madoka? Steins;Gate?

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 26th 2018 at 8:11:01 AM

FictionAddiction Lurker turned Troper from My Home, duh Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Singularity
Lurker turned Troper
#89586: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:25:43 PM

[up] Gurren Lagann.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89587: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:37:12 PM

This is the Stormbringer that will PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89588: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:39:27 PM

It's actually called Stormbreaker, not Stormbringer.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#89589: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:41:05 PM

Also technically he'd smash or slash cause ya can't pierce with a hammer-ax.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#89590: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:41:14 PM

Avengers 4: To Be a Pokemon Master

FictionAddiction Lurker turned Troper from My Home, duh Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Singularity
Lurker turned Troper
#89591: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:43:10 PM

[up][up] Thor can spin it, right? GIGA STORMBREAKER!

Edited by FictionAddiction on Sep 27th 2018 at 5:31:55 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89592: Sep 26th 2018 at 8:30:37 PM

Clearly, Thanos is every Jojo Villain rolled into one...or at least the Stand using ones.

Hell, once he gets the Time Stone, he arguably has Bites the Dust.

I guess Cap would be Jonathon if he lived past that last encounter with Dio too.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#89593: Sep 26th 2018 at 8:54:10 PM

[up]he isnt dio unitl he RODA ROLLA DA Cap or Steve.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89594: Sep 26th 2018 at 10:00:59 PM

Does dropping a moon on Tony count?

Cause he did that. I think that's ROAD ROLLA DA!!!! UP TO ELEVEN!!!

One Strip! One Strip!
NonStopActors Since: May, 2018
#89595: Sep 26th 2018 at 11:54:24 PM

If there are Fandom Rivalries (because it's stated on the pages) between the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the DC Extended Universe, the Star Wars franchise (including the instance of The Last Jedi) and the Fox films, how much of these fandoms actually have a majority hater to fan/neutral ratio for these franchises (haters to inter-franchise fans ratio)? Because if these really have a Fandom Rivalry, then all of these franchises would earn the hatred that is just as vocal (if not, more) as the Hatedoms against Minecraft, Sonic the Hedgehog and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. The MCU having entire pages for Internet Backdraft would've caused a hatred much worse than MLP:Fi M. The Fandom Rivalry between these franchise would be defined as a "near universal hatred of another franchise in one franchise, and so forth.", meaning the sheer level of entries would warrant a level of Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement beyond Twilight.

Edited by NonStopActors on Sep 26th 2018 at 11:56:27 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#89596: Sep 27th 2018 at 2:42:46 AM

So I'm brain storming the Disney streaming mini series.

While the actors for Rhodey, Sam Wilson and Vision are affordable on a game of throne like budget, their super suits or powers aren't so much, but that opens up to have minor roles in other projects.

Characters who I think would work on that kind of budget for a mini series would be Valkyrie, Bucky, Peggy Carter (again), Wong Okeyo, Shuri, and Hawkeye (Though the actor might become too expensive after his next Bourne film)

I was going to say the Nova Corps, but it turns out that John C Riley is actually horrifyingly expensive.

Okay first Loki I think could either be set prior to Thor 1, Sif and the Warriors 3 could easily be supporting characters in that era, or I think most interestingly you could go for the two years between Thor and Avengers Assemble where he's MIA in space. Just have him wandering the universe. There's not much opportunity for him to cross over with established characters... Any of the Starjammers, Nebula or even Peter Quill would be doable on the budget. (Nebula's make up is really time intensive, but her actress is shockingly underpaid). Or I guess you could set it after Infinity War but, I'm not ready for him to cheat the evtns of that film yet.

Scarlet Witch has a lot more freedom. You could set it with Petrio before Age of Ultron when they were under Hydra, during the year between Ao U and Civil War with Vision, Sam and Rhodey in minor supporting roles, or just before Infinity War where she and Vision are in hiding and Vision is conviently make up free. I think any is interesting. I absolutely want to see her delve into actual magic. Have Wong turn up why not. You could possibly do the magic kids plot, but I think it would probably have to be something thrust upon her rather than a desicion she makes entirely herself, because otherwise it would seem really rushed for her to want kids so out of the blue. (though to be fair, she has lot her family)

I think Sif and her late friends would almost certainly be folded into being supporting characters in a Valkyrie project as Valkyrie is the breakout character. However you could literally set their stories at any point in the Marvel timeline. Valkyrie could also be set pre Ragnarock or post infinity War. Again, surviving members of the starjammers, Peter Quill and or Nebula could appear within the budget. If Thor does retire to be king, it would great to see her suddenly be the hero of asgard and dealing with being a protector of the realm. Again after so many years of being literal trash.

Bucky. I think setting it when he was brain washed would be boring? Have flash backs to it sure. Toby Jones will surely love to return. Flash back to WWII as well and have Peggy be there. But I guess the obvious time to set it is in the two years between Winter Soldier and Civil War were he's walking the earth and regaining his memories. You could have him bump into anyone. Maybe Toby Jones as a robot with a telivision in his stomach. Sam Wilson was actively looking for him during this time as well, so that's an obvious moment.

Okeyo and Shuri are a bit difficult, because Wakanda would be expensive to shoot exterior scenes in. Sets are fine, but really you'd want to see them out in the world... And Okeyo is meant to be the monarch's body guard. If there's a timeskip between Infinity War and Avengers 4 you could set it there and literally have Shuri be queen regent and jet around the world. Honestly that sounds like a lot of fun.

Wong is Wong. Show me him tending to the library stacking the shelves and I'd pay to see it.

Hawkeye blatently only deserves a shoe to give us Kate Bishop. You could explore his comic book bad guy past. He does spend Ao U to Infinity War in retirement. Honestly just set it in the present day. Give him a Kate to mentor, and make him go deaf.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89597: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:26:47 AM

I have spun my Bucky and Falcon idea further...how about this:

Bucky decides to seek out the families of his victims out of a desire to, well, give them whatever they need, be it closure, be it the opportunity to rage at him, be it any kind of help. Basically he wants to face his past. And because Sam is a good friend to Cap, he goes with him on the little road trip.

This way you could address themes like guilt, cause and effect, ways to deal with grief aso, while also showing how Bucky was an awesome assassin in the flashbacks.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#89599: Sep 27th 2018 at 5:10:40 AM

[up][up]Which it come to one thing: can tony ever forgive bucky? or even cap?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#89600: Sep 27th 2018 at 5:13:38 AM

Bucky, maybe. At the very least, he'd understand intellectually it wasn't Bucky's fault.

Steve, I feel he shouldn't forgive.


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