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#601: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:52:53 PM

Sad to say you might need to watch Alien vs. Predator for research. One of the humans does prove herself to the Predator as a warrior. Don't think there's a huge amount of communication going on there.

Would she need to trick the Predator into killing Weyland-Yuntani security. It's obvious they're competition for his kill (even if they are woefully under-armed).

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#602: Jun 18th 2015 at 6:22:23 PM

I've seen the movie and remember a scene where, when the protag asked the Predator why was it fiddling with its wrist device with, the Predator silently gestured that it was going to blow up, indicating that it knew what she asked.

Then there was that time in P2 when a Predator interrupted a human's swearing and promptly completed the phrase for him, showing that it understood, if not the meaning, then at the very least the spirit of it as an insult/challenge.

So yeah, the Preds might very well understand English, even if we only go by canonical sources.


Hell, that just gave me an idea...

Would a Predator relish the chance to hunt one of the extra-intelligent xenomorphs from Alien Resurrection? Not any stronger or tougher, but much more resourceful. Like, dropping loot in a trail to lure prey into a dead end. I absolutely love that scene in the novelization.

edited 18th Jun '15 6:29:29 PM by amitakartok

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#603: Jun 18th 2015 at 6:30:32 PM

That probably comes as a natural consequence from being strongly implied to be keeping tabs on humanity on an on-and-off basis since ancient times. They probably found us humans to be quite impressive as a hunting challenge despite our relative fragility and lack of raw physical prowess, possibly due to our resourcefulness and sheer stubbornness.

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#604: Jul 8th 2015 at 5:01:24 PM

A random thought while watching RWBY.

In fiction, monsters are always attracted to 'negative' emotion. Fear, anger, hate, suffering, panic, the usual dark side stuff. The only times I recall monsters being attracted to 'positive' emotions like happiness, hope, etc, it's in a Magical Girl show where the bad guys steal it as a source of power, in Sailor Moon where it's for some reason as a sign the person is hiding the McGuffin of the season, or in Super Sentai, where more of same. And the bad guys usually do it for the sake of making people sad, because they get power from negative emotions or similar.

What if you play it straight?

Let's say in your setting (I'm thinking RWBY-esque, although standard magical girl settings would work too), random wandering monsters are attracted to positive emotions and utterly ignore you when you have negative emotions. That means parties are essentially giant bonfires announcing 'eat me', hope is literally suicidal, and happiness is jus asking to die. If you're at least apathetic or sad though, monsters literally can't see you. What kind of hero would you get? Wandering vigilantes who go around making people sad or angry, because they're endangering themselves and those around them? "Beware, happy ones. I am Magical Girl Grimm Despair, and I will plunge you into darkness!"

Plus you can't have happy sex ever, because that's insta-death. Procreation via artificial insemination? Or such a businesslike mindset that both of you just blank out or talk about the weather while you're waiting for stupid biology to have the right reaction? Or rape, rape everywhere...

edited 8th Jul '15 5:02:10 PM by SCMof2814

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#605: Jul 8th 2015 at 9:33:29 PM

I think the world you're looking for might be Berserk.

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#606: Jul 9th 2015 at 6:54:50 AM

The monsters would have to work fast, otherwise they'd lose you the moment you realize they're on to you. I could see them acting a bit like crocodiles, floating around through the ether until they sense emotion and then LUNGING.

Or maybe they could stick you with something that lets them track you.

edited 9th Jul '15 6:55:12 AM by Durazno

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#607: Sep 14th 2015 at 10:54:23 AM

Been updating an Neon Genesis Evangelion and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha crossover here (link is to the latest chapter).

Grigori Since: Jul, 2014
#608: Nov 23rd 2015 at 8:38:07 PM

Rebuild of Korra

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/wiki/other/fvcsmb#wiki_rebuild_of_korra

I wouldn't say I was ever in the Legend of Korra hatedom, but I did openly dislike some of the sloppy storytelling and dropped plotlines that littered the series. A fanfic "contest" started a few weeks after the finale, so to put my money where my mouth is I decided to jump in and write a fanfic that could "improve" everything that went wrong from season 2 on without ditching anything major. The plan was for it to be modeled on Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and Dragon Ball Multiverse.

Cut to me realizing that my attempt to add nuance to the series had devolved into making things seem weary and grim, mainly in order to skip any teen love triangle bullshit. I went back and edited a few scenes once I realized what had happened. With some of the humor that makes Avatar what it is restored, I came to realize that no matter how cool my conflict was, those who'd read it weren't interested in what I was going for.

Taking the theme of balance more seriously than Bryke did wouldn't win me any fans if I ignored Korrasami in the process. Deemphasizing Korra's friends for a time so I could focus on the spirits' role in the Antarctican war of independence or Jinora soaking in the fundamentalist culture of the Northern Water Tribe while Vaatu whispered in her head wouldn't win me any friendships among the shippers. Add to that how "ambitiously" outlined the Rebuild was coupled with how much time I'd need to write it, and you can see why I left it to sit.

I might come back to it. I might delete it altogether. Frankly writing it all out rather than getting it drawn was already a compromise on my part, and maybe Bryke were wise to abandon things like spirit possession and detailed military conflict. Who knows though, I may return to the Rebuild occassionally whenever I need to distract myself, but for now it'll stay dormant.

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#609: Mar 6th 2016 at 12:52:00 PM

You Misunderstand Me.

"No more!" Linus shouted to Sally. "No more, you hear me?! I'm sick of being called 'sweet baboo'! I don't want you to ever call me 'sweet baboo' again! I'm at the end of my blanket! I'm serious, Sally, not anymore, ever!"

Sally Brown pouted. "Why don't you like being called 'sweet baboo'?"

"Why? Why do you ask that? The nerve! Who in their right mind would like being called a stinking, dirty monkey?!"

Linus seethed as Sally blankly stared at him.

"Linus," she said then. "That's a baboon."

"... oh."

—-

Charlie Brown walked in holding a plate with a peanut butter sandwich. "Sally, Mom told me to bring you— AAUUGHHH!"

Linus and Sally quickly pulled away from each other, wiped their mouths with the backs of their hands, and twiddled their fingers together feigning innocence.

—-

Charlie Brown sat before the Psychological Help booth, took a deep breath, and said, "My sister and your brother are Frenching each other."

Lucy blinked, opened her mouth, blinked again, closed her mouth, blinked a third time, walked out of the booth, kicked Charlie Brown off the chair, and gestured for him to take her seat instead.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#610: Mar 6th 2016 at 3:56:15 PM

Not cool dude.

....ok, it is kinda humorous, but I'm assuming they are both a little older than usual...

Right?

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#611: Apr 18th 2016 at 12:48:53 PM

Something that came to me yesterday, for those who are familiar with Half-Life.

What if the plot (and game engine limitations) didn't conspire against Gordon to force him to leave fellow Black Mesa survivors behind as he went on ahead by himself? What if they all went No One Gets Left Behind and tried to survive together?

This time, Gordon isn't a last One-Man Army standing, but the de facto leader of a Ragtag Bunch of Misfits working together to get out of Black Mesa alive. And on the other side of the coin, Shephard and his fellow Marines are doing the same thing.

"Listen up, asshole. I don't give a flying fuck about our orders. I just want to get out of here alive. We've got enough trouble as it is than to try to kill each other."

He finally gave Jackson another shove before turning away.

"If you wanna go get your ass killed, be my guest. But don't drag us down with you. Anyone else has a complaint?"

"I'm with you, man." - Tower grunted. - "I didn't sign up for this shit anyway."

"Nor did I." - Jackson interjected. - "I just don't wanna bite the dust due to having to babysit some civvies."

"Oh, cry me a river." - Shephard shot back. - "You're a Marine. Act like it instead of being such a cunt." - He then turned to the visibly edgy group of Black Mesa personnel, guns still pointed in his direction. - "Who's in charge here?"

At first, nobody moved. Then if on cue, every single security guard pointed at Barney. - "Wha-? Why me?!"

"Hey, you're the one who's been bossing us around all this time." - Otis replied, nonplussed.

"Oh, for... fine."

"Sounds like you just got volunteered." - Shephard remarked dryly. - "I know the feeling. Anyway, we don't want to die in this place and way I see it, we might live longer if we're not trying to kill each other. Truce?"

Barney just kept staring at him for a while before he sighed and lowered his shotgun. - "Oh, fuck it. They can't possibly pay me enough to deal with this shit. Truce."

"You sure about this, chief?"

"Got a better idea? I'm all ears. But listen up, sir. You guys try anything and we'll waste you just like all your buddies we ran into so far. Got it?"

edited 18th Apr '16 12:49:28 PM by amitakartok

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#612: Apr 29th 2016 at 5:44:50 PM

...wow. I mean, WOW.

Did I just seriously read about a Japanese shrine maiden getting violated by a tentacle monster in a Stargate fic?

WHAT. THE. HELL.

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#615: Apr 30th 2016 at 4:23:46 AM

I'm not kidding, I really did read that.

Ectoplasmic blob entity exits the Portal Network it was mapping at the shrine. Shrine maiden promptly bashes the entity flat. Entity regenerates, slips under her skirt and rather violently probes her into submission until she's of no further threat. Compounding it all is that when the four year old protagonist and his similarly-aged friend pop out of the Portal Network moments later and see the shrine maiden lying on the ground, drooling, giggling and slightly delirious in afterglow, their reaction is more along the lines of "...oops, that wasn't supposed to happen. I mean, Anal Probing those rednecks was funny, but her? Eww."

And according to the narration, the entities adopted this as standard operating procedure to nonlethally subdue a hostile local after a few of them ported to an American cornfield, encountered some gun-toting rednecks and were forced to resort to this in self-defense (followed by hanging them up like hunting trophies and taking photographic evidence, which the protagonists thought was hysterically funny). In fact, that incident is where the urban legend of Anal Probing originated.

In any case, this is a crack fic the likes of which I've never read before, with its initial premise being that a four year old Australian boy, his cat and later on his grandfather, get infected with Alteran nanites. The aftermath of the above scene involve the Japanese police thinking that the various entities surrounding the protagonists are youkai, including the Pokémon-Speaking wombat whose mood changes visibly affect the weather; one of the policewomen somehow (offscreen) getting her clothes dissolved by a slime monster, replacing them with a Leia-esque skimpy magical girl outfit made out of solid gold and proceeding to battle building-sized youkai with a naginata before the protagonist's grandfather (and the rest of the police present) gets there and orders the youkai to clean up the mess the way a parent scolds a child, which actually causes some of the policemen present to think he's a kami and prostrate at him; said policewoman later getting quite rich from selling her golden outfit after having had to use an angle grinder to cut it off; and the shrine maiden herself getting interviewed by a stenographer who later married her and became a hentai artist who brought the tentacle rape trope into Japanese culture.

edited 30th Apr '16 4:25:16 AM by amitakartok

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#616: May 2nd 2016 at 6:53:19 AM

[up] That just blew my mind with its absurdity.

Anyway, the real reason I'm posting is for an experience I had recently with the non-fanfic culture and those residing on Facebook. I was skimming through my FB feed when I spotted a nice piece of Legend of Zelda fanart regarding a fanfic it was based on. I thought it was nice and commented that I had read the fanfic and mentioned my own (shameless plugging of course). But the amount of vitriol and seething hatred for anything fanfic related was awful. Calling both mine and the fanfic that the fanart was based on as 'shitfics' and others saying there is no redeeming writing qualities to be had in fanfics, bunch of lame ass stories and more bile that can't be repeated here. So...yeah, wow, is that a common thing for fanfic culture? To experience this by people who don't understand or get it? I even asked a good friend online to proofread and review my fanfic and he adamantly said no, he doesn't read fanfics. He has no interest in such stupid things. They're all dumb. I stood looking at my phone dumbfounded at this friend of mine for 10+ years saying something like that. Anyone else experienced this?

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#617: May 2nd 2016 at 7:34:50 AM

I think that the majority of "mainstream" (or wanna-be mainstream, anyway) culture is probably like that, but I'm fortunate in that the vast bulk of my IRL associates are in the same near-otaku-ish subculture (meaning, loves a crapload of anime/videogames/etc., though I'm the biggest fanfic guy in the group), and my dad - while firmly enough in the "just doesn't get it" camp, is at least tolerant of it as a hobby.

.......no doubt in part because my years of experience in crafting fanfic have led to some killer essays/papers for college (relative to my peers, at any rate).

To make a long story short, I think the majority of people in the so-called "mainstream" are ignorant and/or haters (at least in places where their real names/faces are in play), and you're probably going to face more adversity than not whenever you try to bring up the topic.

But even so, that just makes it our job as creators to rise above the hate.

edited 2nd May '16 7:35:25 AM by EvaUnit01

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#618: May 2nd 2016 at 8:36:01 AM

That said, do remember that Sturgeon's Law applies to fanfics as it does to the other things it's typically applied to. I wouldn't be surprised if a considerable number of those "fanfic haters" have based their opinion on having never encountered a good fanfic in whatever limited forays they've made into the world of fanfics (an impression which can easily be adopted given Sturgeon's Law, even though it's actually flawed).

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#620: May 2nd 2016 at 10:07:27 AM

That just blew my mind with its absurdity.

It gets better. In the latest chapter, the adolescent protagonist realized that he can see the future - or rather, possible futures. Specifically, he found out about the Abydos mission that's going to happen about two decades down the line (the fic begins in the seventies) and that one of its possible outcomes is Earth getting glassed by pissed Goa'uld, so he and his grandfather decided to try and preempt this. How, you ask? The Stargate is currently collecting dust in a warehouse that's going to change hands in a few years, with everything inside being auctioned off. What happened in the canon timeline is that the new owner wanted to bulldoze the warehouse but didn't have the heavy lifting machinery to move the gate, so he passed it onto the only ones he could get on short notice: the government. What the protagonists are attempting to do is to get enough money to buy the gate at the auction before anyone realizes what it is.

And how they're trying to raise the money for that?

By meeting George Lucas and investing in the first Star Wars movie two years before the premier, at a time the man is having trouble securing funding because the major film studios all think it's a stupid idea for a movie. [lol]

edited 2nd May '16 10:07:40 AM by amitakartok

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#622: May 3rd 2016 at 9:50:41 AM

[up][up][up][up]There's another layer to it too: It's not easy to show someone a good fanfic.

If you look at other media formats where Sturgeon's Law is commonly invoked, most of them are faster to process than text. You can show someone what you think a good piece of fanart, and they'll be able to tell you on the spot whether or not they think it's good. You can show someone what you think is a good vlog, let's play, or abridged series, and they'll be able to estimate whether it's worth watching based on things like production quality and similar factors within the first minute of the episode you show them.

With fanfiction, there are certainly some immediately obvious clues that a fic will be bad, but not so many that a fic will be good. The only way to know if a fic is good is to read a good enough chunk of it to see where it's going, and that takes time and attention that could be spent on ventures that carry less risk of disappointment.

So, not only is it hard to find a good fanfic due to Sturgeon's Law (which does hit fanfics even harder due to the low barrier of entry), but it's hard to show non-fanfic-afficionados examples of good fanfiction, which hurts it's reputation further.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#623: May 3rd 2016 at 3:23:19 PM

IIRC, a considerable portion of early Star Trek fan fiction got official recognition and subsequently turned into part of the ST's Expanded Universe. How about citing that?

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#624: Jan 29th 2017 at 6:21:50 PM

Anyone remember the old books series Animorphs? You know, the one about child soldiers, mental trauma and moral relativism? To this day I still hate Cassie's moralizing. It's part of why I loathe Egwene Alvere so.

Anyway, anyone know any good Animorphs crossover fics? Because this series, as much as I enjoyed it, is giving me squat for good fanfic ideas. Everyone is just too low-level, power-wise. It MIGHT work with Agents of Shield, on a purely power-to-power basis, but conceptually? No. Even if you do the 'sent to another universe' thing that all deadfics start out as, it doesn't really work not even for the initial misunderstandings.

Sigh, I just have to acknowledge that my reading preferences have gotten more high-power over the years. Maybe a medieval setting? The Animorphs might just be the right power level in, say, Golarion or Krynn (plus, Golden Dragon Morph! Silver Dragon nothlit is like still having the morphing power!), but... well, those kinds of plots can't really go anywhere.

Or.. Oooh! Kono Suba! Rachel dies, and after having to listen to the Ellimst Chronicles, suddenly finds herself in a heavenly waiting room with the option of killing the Demon Lord for the chance to get back to Earth. Alternately, Familiar of Zero? That... might just let morphing be strong enough for the setting. Rachel would absolutely murderize Louise though.

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#625: Feb 3rd 2017 at 2:13:36 PM

What if Louise summoned Tobias?


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