Warhammer 40,000

Yes, looks great.

I've added the examples to the trope page and to the relevant character pages. I also went ahead and added the Dark Mechanicum section that I had been working on to the Forces of Chaos page.

It might not be right, but I split the Daemon Engines to their own folder...the original take felt really clunky. The information is solid.

I did consider that myself to be honest but ended up going with my original idea. It does look better your way.

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 14th 2018 at 5:00:47 PM

Quick trope question: I was fixing the improper indentation of the Games Workshop examples on the Morph Weapon trope page and came across the following:

• Obliterators use this trope and/or a combination of Shapeshifter Weapon and Swiss-Army Appendage: They can sprout/are welded to a wide assortment of weapons to counter any enemy type (such as flamers for infantry, plasma cannons for armor, and lascannons for vehicles) from their arms. Mutilators are the same deal, only with melee weapons where the Obliterators have ranged ones.

Is this actually an example. While Obliterator weapons do change, it is the body of the Obliterator that changes, not the weapon itself which would make it wholly a Shapeshifter Weapon not a Morph Weapon. What do other people think?

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 15th 2018 at 8:58:33 PM

Actually closer to Ikea Weaponry and Walking Armory for both Obliterators and Mutilators: Shapeshifter Weapon, Morph Weapon and Swiss-Army Appendage do not really apply. Rather than forming new weapons out of themselves or reshaping a particular weapon, they have absorbed a large number of weapons into their bodies. When they use one, they reshape their body to bring that weapon to the surface of an arm, while retracting whatever they had been using. Each of the viral hosts' bodies produces the required energy, ammunition, and fuel for each weapon indefinitely. Combined with their huge forms not requiring stocks, grips, bracing or other stabilizing elements, this drastically cuts down on the required space; but each weapon itself needs to be fully absorbed so there is an upper limit and choices will need to be made for loadouts.

The best set of details comes from the original Inquisitor tabletop game from around 3rd edition; it has rules for the Obliterator virus in stages in one of the supplements. While an infectee can initially just absorb pistols and small blades for convenience and concealment, eventually they move up to multiple basic and heavy weapons and begin producing ammo/fuel/energy for any weapon melded with their flesh; all the while, they grow increasingly massive, strong and resilient, their mental faculties suffer, and their skin turns into living Warp-metal.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Dec 16th 2018 at 3:43:31 PM

Yeah being a literal Walking Armory would probably best describe them. I deleted the entry on the Morph Weapon page for not being an example with a link to this thread.

So, we now know a bit more about the whole 'Rubicon Primaris' thing. Basically it's a surgical procedure made up by the Head Toasterfucker himself, Belisarius Cawl, meant to overcome the primary weakness of the Primaris Marines (inexperience) by bolstering vanilla marines with the Primaris enhancements. He estimates that this procedure, when perfected, will only have a teensy failure rate of 61.9 %. Papa Smurf, wanting to try and build bridges between the Primaris and the 'old' Space Marines, chose to undergo an experimental version of the procedure. He died for a little bit, but pulled through.

Granted the fact Caldgar was already part machine after he little encounter with a tyranid maybe help a little.

Even little experience goes a long way.

Edited by Prany on Dec 16th 2018 at 9:19:27 AM

Interesting. Is that from the Vigilus Defiant campaign book? I haven't got around to looking through my copy yet. If it is then it probably doesn't need to be spoilered as it is from a Sourcebook not a novel.

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 16th 2018 at 4:10:58 PM

It is. I spoilered it just in case there were folks who hadn't read through their copy yet and didn't want to get spoiled.

That's the thing though, sourcebooks aren't really prose but the basic information needed to play in character so don't really need to be spoilered.

Double post because

Fire Relief – The Local Warhammer Community Steps In

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 16th 2018 at 5:44:19 PM

That sounds like an excellent excuse to finally finish my Dark Imperium Primaris Marines, and for a good cause to boot.

From Nothing Is Scarier:

This sounds like way too much extrapolation and hyperbole based off one line of speculation in a book that is probably long since obsolete. Should I pull it?

Edited by SantosLHalper on Dec 16th 2018 at 5:18:06 AM

Not even sure where the implication the Tyranids are 'fleeing' another threat came from. It has certainly reached memetic levels, but I am not sold on the concept. Anyone have a citation?

And the horus heresy already reveal why the nids come the galaxy so I will said let remove it.

I believe it's one of several in-universe theories as to their universe, but I don't know if it's in the latest codex or anything.

Does that example even count as Nothing Is Scarier as it isn't really meant to scare the audience (which is the point of the trope). It is more of a Cryptic Background Reference if a source for it can be found (I do seem to remember it from somewhere).

Double post because there is a 40K animated series coming

Cool!

Yeah, it's said in the Horus Heresy that the Tyranids were attracted to the Milky Way while they were hibernating in dark space, so the "invading refugees" thing is done.

@The trope entry

Aaaaand pulled.

Another trope question. Agent Peacock is listed on the Craftworlds page but as this pretty much applies to all the Aeldari (except Haemonculi) should it be moved to the general Aeldari page and rewritten?