WMG / Morbius (2022)

Pre-Release

Michael Keaton is not the Vulture.

• He seems to be in a labcoat and he would probably still be a prisoner.
  • Or... he's just the Vulture from another universe. Sony can't use the version from the MCU, but they can use the actor, so his backstory and suit (if he gets to have any) will be different.
    • Umm, the MCU Spider-Man films are co-productions with Sony. It's not that hard to believe they could have legal rights to keep the character whose film rights they still technically own.
    • Sony folks can't directly refer to MCU. MCU Toomes has a beef with Tony Stark and Damage Control and scavenges Chitauri tech, Ultron tech... that's a no-go since all of these belong to Marvel Studios. His backstory has to be different. Kevin Feige didn't allow Venom (2018) to connect, I doubt he changed his mind and plans on this one.
    • He could just never say "Tony Stark". Boom. Simple as that.
  • A guy doesn't need to have a spotless criminal record to simply buy and put on a white coat. Besides, it looks a lot like his prisoner outfit from Homecoming.
    • His outfit looks way too much like a lab coat, plus he refers to Morbius as if they know each other. It's likely Keaton is playing an old partner of Morbius or something. It would be weird for a middle-class construction worker-turned black market arms dealer to have a history with a noted medical scientist.
  • If Sony is really trying to have this be adjacent to the MCU, it is possible Toomes somehow escaped the Raft or was released from it during the five year "Blip". Really...why else would they include him at all if he's not meant to resemble or be Toomes?
    • Marvel Studios and TV had Mariah Dillard and Miriam Sharpe as the same actress.
    • Miriam wasn't saved for the end of the Civil War trailer acting like she was Mariah.
    • Also, the casting of that actress was a complete coincidence by two enirely different casting departments.
  • The marketing campaign may be trying to trick people into thinking it's the Vulture.
    • I think that's most likely the case, especially since no official source has confirmed the name of Keaton's character.
• Confirmed. After Tyreese Gibson erroneously stated in an interview that the film was part of the MCU, Sony put out an official statement clarifying that it is not.
• Maybe he is from an alternate universe.
• A) The movie doesn't have to be set in the MCU for it to be the same character. B) Lying Creator could be in effect. Both of these are based on The Stinger for Venom: Let There Be Carnage
• Jossed, he is the same Vulture from the MCU.

It will be a combination of Michael’s treatments and serums along with what he finds that causes his transformation.

The film will have no central Big Bad.

• Morbius will just feed on normal criminals and the primary conflict will be Simon Stroud and the FBI hunting him down as a Hero Antagonist.
• Jossed, Matt Smith’s character Milo/Lucian is the Big Bad.

Michael Morbius will break up with his fiancée

Loxias Crown and/or Jared Harris's mentor character will turn out to be the villain

Tobey Maguire will make a cameo as Spider-Man.

• If you'll notice, the Spider-Man poster on the wall with the graffiti over it features the Raimi trilogy Spider-Man. So perhaps Tobey (or even Andrew Garfield) will pop up as this universe's wall-crawling web-slinger.
• Or maybe they used the Sam Raimi Spider-Suit as a placeholder because Sony still needs to have the okay from Marvel Studios to use the MCU Spider-Suit in the final cut.
  • The image being a placeholder is supported a bit by the fact that it's actually a screenshot from the PS4 game.

The in-universe reason why Tobey's Spider-Man is used for the graffiti despite Morbius appearing to be set in the MCU is because there are no good pictures of MCU!Spider-Man.

• Unlike in other media, Peter has never worked for the Daily Bugle, couple that with Peter rejecting his chance to officially join the Avengers in Homecoming and him changing his look multiple times in Far From Home there hasn't really been a chance to get a clear, good look at the costume. Leaving the public to try to come up with what Spider-Man looks like from blurry video footage.
  • How about the appearance at the homeless shelter, there were clearly reporters and photographers.
    • Thats where the multiple costumes come in, at the homeless shelter Peter used the Iron Spider Armor, while the cardboard cut out used the "normal" look and later in Mysterio's video the newly made black variant of his "normal" costume creating a inconsistency that can cause confusion. Its also possible that the general public knows that the Iron Spider Armor is not his normal look considering Peter was active before meeting Tony and that some details of the battles against Thanos were shared with the public.
• There's also this to consider; it's graffiti, so it doesn't have to be 100% accurate in-universe. In-universe, there's only one Spidey, so a street artist would just have to make it look "close enough" and people would understand who it's meant to be.
• Sony has officially clarified that Morbius is not part of the MCU.

If this does take place in the Sam Raimi trilogy universe, what did Peter do to be labeled as a murderer?

• My guess, he was framed for the death of Gwen Stacy.
  • Alternately, he was accused of killing Captain George Stacy after a trick done mid fight went horribly wrong.
• The main problem with the idea of it sharing same universe as the Rami Trilogy is that it already shares one with Venom (2018), which would mean there are two Eddie Brocks who become Venom.
  • Then let's just pretend Spider-Man 3 never happened in order for this to work.

The post-credits scene will feature Carnage again.

As a continuation to his scene from Venom (2018), Cletus somehow comes across the Carnage symbiote and bonds with it - but the context behind it will be revealed in the Venom sequel.

• Now that the film has switched release order with Venom: Let There Be Carnage, any dependency that the film might've had regarding that order will likely be cut out.
• Now jossed as both Cletus and the Carnage symbiote were killed in the final act of the Venom sequel.

Michael Keaton's Vulture will only appear in the post credits scene as a Sequel Hook

• Confirmed.

Every reference to the MCU will be a Missing Trailer Scene

There will be a cameo from Kraven the Hunter

The Jungle where Michael Morbius goes could be the home of Kraven the Hunter

Michael Keaton's possible role if he really is the Vulture

• He wants to recruit Morbius and Venom (in Let There Be Carnage) as part of a team to help Spider-Man after Mysterio revealed his identity when he possibly spent years trying to keep it a secret. Similar to the Ultimate Six, which Spider-Man had to be a part of.

A Blade teaser

• Could be a cameo, an in-universe reference, an end credits scene: something will point to Blade
  • That's very unlikely, since Sony does not have the rights to use Blade whatsoever. Even a subtle reference probably wouldn't be allowed, given that Marvel Studios couldn't even vaguely allude to the word "mutant" until the Fox buyout.
  • Another example of a Marvel movie being unable to reference another character due to rights issues... was Blade being unable to reference Michael Morbius. An entire ending scene was filmed with Blade encountering Morbius on a roof that had to be cut because they didn't have the rights. So this comes full circle.
  • Also, Blade made a vocal cameo in The Stinger for Eternals.

J. Jonah Jameson is going to cameo in this movie

• To connect with the Spider-Man: Far From Home mini-arc.
  • Morbius does pick up a Daily Bugle newspaper in the official trailer, so maybe.

Which universe the movie takes place in

The trailer features easter eggs to at least 3 separate Marvel film universes (the image of Spider-Man and the Daily Bugle logo from the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, the Oscorp logo from the Marc Webb Spider-Man films, and Michael Keaton as Adrian Toomes from the MCU). It's possible that Doctor Strange messing with the multiverse went so bad that it created a whole new reality with all these elements featured.

Morbius will end up getting transport the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Like Venom, he will be transporting in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a Post-Credits-Scene.

Vulture is going to be the same Vulture from the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Despite not appearing in No Way Home, it is implied that Vulture will be the same one for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Vulture will appear in the Post-Credits Scene as a Cameo

Since he was confirmed to be appearing in the film, it is implied that he will be only seen as a cameo in the Post-Credits-Scene.

The film will reveal that Sony’s Spider-Man Universe and The Amazing Spider-Man’s universe are one and the same.

Considering that Venom: Let There Be Carnage confirms that the SSU and MCU are in fact different universes and that Webb-verse!Spider-Man mentions that he “stopped pulling his punches”, it has been speculated that the graffiti was referring to Andrew Garfield’s Spidey rather than Tom Holland’s. Due to this and the fact that there would be no way for anyone in the SSU (besides Venom) to know about the MCU’s existence nor the fact that the Spider-Man of that universe had apparently murdered someone, it’s likely that Webb-verse!Spider-Man felt enough anger towards Harry to ignore his moral code and kill him.

If Tom Holland's Spider-Man is in the SSU, then his adventures would be a Broad Strokes version of his MCU counterpart.

Specifically, the MCU-exclusive elements (such as Talos!Nick Fury's involvement in Far From Home) would be left out. In spite of this, SSU Spidey would have roughly the same experience as his MCU self up until the end of Far From Home, since Doctor Strange wouldn't be around to cast the spell that started the whole multiverse conflict in No Way Home.

The scene in the trailer where Morbius says "I am Venom" won't be in the actual film.

How would he even know about Venom, as Let There Be Carnage never established that Venom was a public figure. When he was in that club nobody said that Venom looked like that monster from a year and half ago, and presumably people working at the Life Foundation (or some government people) covered up any evidence of the symbiotes as that would have made the news. This suggests that Eddie actually did a decent job of keeping Venom under control and staying under the radar until Venom started rebelling during the film, so while it's possible that the stories about aliens and monsters are now public they wouldn't have any way of knowing that the symbiote was called Venom.

The scenes of "MURDERER" and Adrian Toomes will be cut.

This movie was originally supposed to release after Spider-Man: Far From Home and before Venom: Let There Be Carnage, but COVID-19 changed plans.

MCU Vulture was transported to Morbius’s Universe

I mean, how else was he able to get get to Sony’s Marvel Universe? He was likely transported the same time Sony’s Venom and Eddie (including the others) were transported to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in No Way Home.

MCU Vulture still has his memories of the MCU Spider-Man

If him appearing in the post-credits-scene is any indication, it might be implying that he will still have his memories of the MCU Spider-Man.

• Well, considering Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, the MCU characters forgot about Peter Parker... but they still kept their memories of Spider-Man. So they have no idea who's behind Spider-Man's mask, but they still know about him.

There will be a Sequel Hook that will be setting up The Sinister Six

With the MCU Vulture appearing in the post-credits-scene, talking to Morbius in Prison, it is implied that they are going to form a team called The Sinister Six to presumably take down the MCU Spider-Man.

Post-Release

The second mid-credits scene is set after a Time Skip

The next few films will show the Vulture learning about the world he is and explaining more about his current situation (likely through post credit scenes), and once he’s figured out how to build his new suit we will see how he made contact with Morbius.

A writer or executive mistook the LEGO set Spider-Man's Drone Duel for MCU canon

This tie in LEGO set to No Way Home looks like a scene in an alternate version of that film where Spiderman fights Vulture..

Why Toomes was alright with being stuck in another universe

By the time he was sent to the SSU, Toomes had spent at most seven years in prison with little hope of leaving outside of breaking out, and that's assuming he wasn't dusted by Thanos like so many others. His wife and daughter have also cut contact with him and moved away to start a new life, and as much as he cared about them, he's probably had enough time to accept that he'll never see them again. So when he suddenly ended up in the SSU, he saw it as a way to start fresh, as there was no one there that knew about his actions in the MCU.

Toomes' home universe is the SSU, not MCU

I know, sounds far-fetched, but then again, the whole movie is. Ahem, getting sidetracked here.

At the end of "No Way Home", all of the displaced villains were brought back to their home universes... But also brought the Vulture to the SSU. It could only be possible if he himself was from that universe, brought in the MCU for unknown purposes either when he was very young or as an adult but with his mind thoroughly cleaned to forget his previous universe.

Doctor Strange botched the villain-returning spell due to Peter leaving out precise details again.

Strange set up the magic to send the No Way Home villains back where they belonged under the assumption that all of MCU-Peter's supervillain enemies were either displaced into the MCU (Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Lizard, Electro) with home universes to return to, or already dead (Thanos, Mysterio) and beyond the scope of what needed changing. He never knew that MCU-Peter had fought the Vulture as well. When the spell activated, it transferred the imported villains back to where they came from, but it also nabbed Victor Toomes under its "send Peter's supervillain enemies to whichever other universe they belong in" criterion, and dumped him off in the SSU: the most fitting available destination for a guy who was always a bit of an anti-villain.

Sequel Theories

Possible SequelHooks that might set up Sony’s Marvel Universe’ other films

With the film presumably setting up The Sinister Six, it is implied that there will be other possibilities that will set up Sony’s other Marvel films

There will be a Possible Sequel Hook on the Multiversal Visitors

With the film presumably going to set up The Sinister Six, it might be possible for the film maybe to set up a crossover for the Multiversal Visitors.

Possible potential members for The Sinister Six, who will presumably defeat the MCU's Spider-Man

The possible potential members to form The Sinister Six, who will presumably defeat the MCU's Spider-Man would be:

• Vulture
• Venom/She-Venom
• Morbius
• Mysterio
• Kraven the Hunter
• Chameleon
• Scorpion
• Hydro-Man
• Hobgoblin

#MorbiusSweep and related memes will be referenced in later movies

With how people have been joking about it, Sony is bound to acknowledge it in some way. Maybe Morbius will try to say "It's Morbin' time" at one point, only for him, Toomes or someone else to dismiss it as stupid.

The sequel will be an ironic comedy movie

With the huge amount of memes surrounding the film, a few fans who genuinely want a sequel to the movie hope that Sony simply embraces the memes and basically create a "shitpost film."

Morbius will die in a future SSU installment

He did plan to kill himself when he developed the serum, but only used it on Milo after their battle. While this was done so that Morbius could appear in future films, it still shouldn't be ruled out entirely. Perhaps he'll use it after deciding he's become too much of a danger to everyone around him to be left alive, or during a Heroic Sacrifice in a Sinister Six movie. Or maybe he'll just be killed by whatever threat the Six will face.

This version of Morbius will end up in the MCU for their Midnight Sons adaptation

Marvel Studios confirmed that they are working towards an adaptation of the supernatural team which Morbius was a prominent member of in he comics. With the studio aggressively building up the team's presence releasing and announcing series for characters like Moon Knight, Werewolf-By-Night, and Dr. Strange, while introducing other members such as Blade and Elsa Bloodstone in their other projects all around the same time that Morbius was in production and released. Its not unreasonable for them to bring in Morbius, especially with how established traveling between the multiverse has become in the movies.

Due to his first film not doing well, Morbius will have already died offscreen

When the time comes marketing will show scenes involving him in trailers and have him in the poster to tap into the promise of more memes for audience members, but despite this the actual movie with the sinister six will only have five super villains present with an offhand comment mentioning he is already dead or he'll make a single appearance and die offscreen in a vague manner with the movie treating him as if he didnt exist after a single comment about it.

Morbius will show up in the third Deadpool movie

If they do want to go the self-parody route for future Morbius stuff, this would be a good way to do it.

Morbius 2 will be a superhero horror comedy

Imagine a superhero movie with the writing and style of Cabin Fever or What We Do in the Shadows.

A potential Morbius Sequel will be unironically good

Just because that would have been the best possible twist possible.

The Stinger with Vulture will become an Aborted Arc

Instead, he'll be captured by the Spider Society since he's basically an anomaly now and needs to be returned to the MCU.

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