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open Unilateral Franchisewide Lumping Videogame
So Veriamo decided to migrate a bunch of entries from Xenoblade Chronicles 1, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Xenoblade Chronicles 3 to aggregate franchise-wide pages many of which don't exist, supposedly in the name of removing clutter. Thing is, this results in an ugly-looking header full of red links, and also I don't think this was done with the approval of other editors, especially considering the forums have brought up that this kind of aggressive mass franchise-wide consolidation is actually causing problems in many cases.
openDigimon Survive Videogame
The game releases next month (hopefully), but the page for it got cut with the reason being "no valid trope entries". Is it safe to recreate, I think there's enough information to get a decent draft together.
openWas this game deleted? Videogame
There's a game I played before, https://store.steampowered.com/app/1191120/Growing_Up/, released in 2021. It had a trope page with a Characters section and a YMMV. Did someone just decide to redlist this game out of maliciousness? If there's a better explanation, I'll take it, cause otherwise this is feeling like a Mandella effect.
openUser removing content from Multiversus WMG page en-masse. Videogame
Have a user in need of reporting in regards to their edits on the WMG page for MultiVersus. In particular, a user known as Celac01 has been removing a large amount of content in relation to mentions of third parties, first removing only certain selections of the page before having the gall to wipe the entire section clean. While I have restored these edits and sent a message warning them not to repeat this behavior, the actions of this user (removing the mentioned third-party sections to make the page for "realistic" and "not like M.U.G.E.N" [something that is completely bogus, as there's no rule dictating as such], alongside removing some first-party stages) is too great for me to risk them attempting to remove the content once again. As such, I request disciplinary action or punishment be given against this user.
Edited by ShinobiopenIndex creation Videogame
So if we wanted to turn a creator page, say Supermassive Games, into an index for their works, would there be a forum I would have to get approval from?
open[sic] tags when dealing with AllLowercaseLetters characters Videogame
Since the Discussion page isn't working, I'll bring it up here.
Over on https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/UndertaleSans, Random Troper 123 decided to add [sic] tags to every improperly lowercased letter on the page. Sans generally talks in all lowercase letters, which means all of his quotes on this page now have a whole bunch of [sic] notes in the middle of them, which is very annoying to read.
I don't believe those tags are necessary. I think it is very clear to anyone reading the page that the all lowercase letters is a deliberate style choice and is not something that needs to be noted every single time it happens.
Thoughts on this?
openFive Nights at Freddy's and Inconsistencies Videogame
The pages for the first six games are not consistent with eachother in terms of in-game information. Most have entries that've either been disproven within themselves- both from late-game or hidden information- or the other games. They are also riddled with fandom-based assuptions that have no basis within the given information, often conflicting with what was actually given in-game. I would like to start an effort to clean these pages up, but do I have to pitch a short-term project to do so- and how would I go about that, if yes- because of the scale, or, can I work on it myself in my spare time? I am asking primarily because I am not active frequently.
EDIT: Clean up effort is now live, here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16550680110A22093300&page=1#1
Edited by G1-FizzyopenTrope misuse? Videogame
What thread would I go to to ask about a misused trope? I found an example in VideoGame.The Quarry about Video Game Movies (the game has multiple “movie modes”).
openToo many quotes from the same thing? Videogame
The majority of the quotes under the Video Game section of Strange-Syntax Speaker are from a section of Spyro 2: Year of the Dragon where most of the characters speak in haiku.
The thing is, do we need so many quotes from the same game that are essentially demonstrating the same thing repeatedly? I don't know what the rules are for quotes but 1 or 2 would aptly demonstrate the point, surely?
openShould Classes be put on Terraria's Character Page? Videogame
Looking at character pages like Final Fantasy V and Dragon Quest IX, makes me wonder if we should expand "The Player" entry into a subtitle categorised by "In General" and the four classes "Melee/Warrior", "Ranger", "Magic/Sorcerer" & "Summoner".
Classes are of major note to gameplay and feel it is something to be categorised but class is something mainly tied into equipment and some equipment hybridises the classes which may make it less viable for the Character Page but I also note the large number of Warframes on the Warframe character page to help support it could be included there.
Edited by JustaUsernameopenNo Title Videogame
Hello,
I am asking a question about an upcoming game called Honkai Star Rail
There is a page about unreleased content but I have trouble understanding what I should do for Star Rail. The second CBT is currently live and there is a "Characters" page on the official website where characters are neatly divided into factions. What I'm asking is: is it allowed to make a Characters subpage for Star Rail, using the information from CBT content and official website ?
openFlunky Boss qualification Videogame
If smaller enemies fight the player alongside a boss, but are not allied with it (e.g. Xulgon's smallest minions pestering you when you fight Hermit, Prospector, or Storm in Chippy), does that count as a Flunky Boss or not?
openLong-term Edit Wars? Videogame
Part of me thinks I crossed the line into one earlier today when I noticed the third entry on Awesome.Final Fantasy III removed after it had been there for years. The other day, it got removed under Examples Are Not Arguable by Kuruni for noting it was "Arguably" a villainous moment.
I sent a deleting YMMV notifier and re-added the entry slightly rewritten to remove "Arguably."
I realized shortly after, did that cross into Edit War territory despite the original entry being written years ago by someone else?
Edited by GunarmDyneopenSonic Origins Videogame
Why was the page removed? I feel it was unique enough to keep.
openYMMV Entry Restoration Videogame
The 2017 video game Mass Effect: Andromeda features a character that is supposed to be a powerful, violent, intimidating female warlord from a Proud Warrior Race. The voice of the character in question sounds like, to be blunt, a very stereotypically effeminate gay male, to the point where it sounds like a parody. Think Family Guy cutaway portrayal of a gay male, except it's supposed to be taken seriously. It's legitimately not very clear that this character is supposed to even be a female. Because of this and the character fighting in an extremely poorly animated and choreographed scene, this character has been overwhelmingly ridiculed and mocked by players and fans.
It turns out the person who provided the voice recordings for this character is transgender. DGCatAniSiri removed a Narm entry from the YMMV page, claiming that such an entry is transphobic. There was no mention of transgenderism in the entry.
I've sent a message to DGCatAniSiri explaining that even if this claim had any weight, it's irrelevant. Explaining that YMMV entries don't become valid or invalid based upon whether the fan reaction was "right," and that they are perfectly free to disagree. After weeks, a follow up message, and more weeks, they still haven't responded, despite being active.
May I restore this entry?
Edited by HeartOfStoneopen Link = Decoy Protagonist? Videogame
Ok, I gotta ask: is Link really a Decoy Protagonist in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? The character page for Twilight Princess uses the following argument: "Link is simply used to move the game where it needs to go. Midna, the titular Twilight Princess, is the real hero of the story. Zelda is a secondary decoy, as you naturally assume she's the Twilight Princess, and indeed Midna addresses her as that in their first meeting, and Midna's royalty isn't revealed until rather late in the game."
Last time I checked, a Decoy Protagonist is a character who is set up to be the protagonist of a story, only to be replaced by another character, who is revealed to be the real protagonist. Now, Supporting Protagonist (the character used by audiences to explore the story isn't the focus of the story) is one thing, but Decoy Protagonist implies that Link can be removed from the story and nothing would change. If Link was removed from the story, yeah, the story would change dramatically.
Link is the one who ultimately solves the main conflict by stopping the bad guys, even if other characters receive more Character Development from him. The fact that other characters (Midna included) fail to solve the main conflict all by themselves proves that Link is necessary for the story reach any kind of resolution. Both Zelda and Midna temporarily die in different parts of the story and Link is forced to go on without them.
So, what do you think?
openAnother Elden Ring Edit War Videogame
There's an edit war happening between ~Lady Belial and ~Snaplock on Characters.Elden Ring.
Starting here, Lady Belial adds some entries and a video link, which was removed here by Snaplock with a somewhat argumentative edit reason. Lady Belial added it back again with a threat of mod action against Snaplock and accusations that they are angry about people disagreeing with them.
I haven't been paying attention to the full history of what's going on with the Elden Ring pages aside from seeing arguments about the characters pop up fairly frequently, so I'm not sure if either of these tropers has a history of problems on these pages already, but nonetheless this is an edit war at this point.
Edit: I just noticed that right after they re-added the removed stuff, Lady Belial made an edit on the YMMV page to remove something Snaplock posted with the reason "Stop inserting your Malenia fan pandering into the discussion. You've been proving wrong, grow the fuck up." so I have also sent them a rudeness notifier. It looks like they're having the same edit war over there though.
Edited by Zarina
The troper Ferret Bandit went onto a few of the pages for The Dark Pictures Anthology and added on examples for plot holes. Some of them are wrong, others come off as complaining, and in at least one instance they changed someone else's awesome moment entry, and then went to the Plot Hole page and added over 700 words worth of complaining. A lot of this comes off (to me at least) as complaining and nitpicking and should be cut, but I want some second opinions before completely cutting everything.
Relevant links:
- - Changed an example to say killing an antagonist with a knife was something the game established as impossible, which is untrue (I already changed this example back)
- Added a second dot level beneath another example with a snarky comment, violating the Repair, Don't Respond policy
- Deleted the previous PlotHole entry with a snarky comment, then added over 700 words worth of complaining about things that aren't plot holes
- Did the same here
Edited by Shaoken