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openIs insulting general groups in reviews acceptable?
I have concerns regarding the user Codafett, where they left a negative review on Bumblebee. This wouldn't be a problem on its own, but in response to someone arguing against their review, they in response singlehandedly insulted the movie's entire viewerbase, calling them "manchildren and literal children". Feels like a real strong case of Opinion Myopia. But given that this insult is not directed at a specific person, I'd like to ask, is such behavior acceptable?
resolved Edit Reason
An entry on YMMV.Wanda Vision Episode 9 The Series Finale was removed with the edit reason "Removing complaining", but then added back (not by the original poster) with the edit reason "Re-adding Complaining". It was later removed again by another person for different reasons, but the reason for adding it back seems concerning.
Edited by costanton11openMisplaced namespace?
Consider that it's more of a genre (or even trope?), I don't think Web Original is the right namespace, is it? I mean, we have Main.Creepy Pasta, not WebOriginal.Creepy Pasta.
BTW, is it just me, or people are really insist on using Web Original namespace?
Edited by KuruniopenCertain quote moved to CashCowFranchise
About a few months ago, I suggested Simon Carey's review about FIFA 21 on where should it be placed in on the quotation page for It's the Same, Now It Sucks!. This was the quotation.
Later on, I found out it was moved from the former to Cash-Cow Franchise's quotation page. I also found out that this edit was made by a banned troper. Should I move it back or no?
open Troper making potentially agenda-biased edits
patriciovalencia117 has been making several potentially political agenda-based edits on pages. For example:
- On UsefulNotes.Boris Johnson removed a comparison of the man to Marine Le Pen,
- Replaced a portion of an entry about Tony Blair on OvershadowedByControversy.Real Life that previously said his popularity went down after weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were discovered not to exist with a new portion that said his popularity went down "among his left-leaning supporters," and
- Removed portions of an entry on the 2019 British election on LandslideElection.Real Life that criticized Theresa May, while adding a new portion that insinuated that candidate Jeremy Corbyn lost because of an alleged "socialist agenda."
And I'm sure there are more. Should we do something here?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonopenWhat to do with SelfDemonstrating/GLaDOS page?
Apparently a couple weeks back, a change was made to the smallcaps formatting to make it automatically line break whenever used. I have no opinion on that in particular, but it has the side effect of destroying the GLaDOS page, which used a huge amount of smallcaps formatting as part of the joke.
What's the best way to address fixing the page? It would be a massively tedious effort to fix by hand. It seems like it deserves a vote on what action to take, whether some kind of change, rewriting from scratch, or even deletion.
open It happened again.
YMMV.Wanda Vision, Spectre Agent, Designated Villain.
- Designated Villain: Director Hayward. The audience is asked to sympathize with Wanda after she enslaved and tortured a small town and is allowed to leave with only dirty looks while Hayward is arrested at the end despite only trying to stop her to save the townsfolk.
I'm going to go request a page lock now in the Locked Pages Thread. I'm done with humanity.
Edited by SatoshiBakuraopenPacific Rim Characters
Editing the Characters page is giving the red warning that the page is too long and needs to be split, in preparing to do so I saw it had been split and reconsolidated. With a new show just debuting, seems like the page will only grow. Should it be split now?
openStub page
This page is not listed correctly and has only a brief undescriptive synopsis and incomplete stub for a description.
openPage Reversions
Hello,
Where should I ask for mods to revert pages? I'm asking because I'm looking at stuff on the Ban Evader Reversion Thread, and I found a page that only has edits from a ban evader once they showed up and hasn't been edited since they left. Should I ask on the moderator thread, the BERT thread, or the edit requests thread?
openKeeping pages separate with similar titles
So I'm thinking of making page for a Fan Fiction called Wayward but there is a comic with the same name (no relation). How would I go about making sure these two don't get lumped together.
Should note that I once made a page for a Fan Fiction before called Singularity and it got thrown on to a fanfic tap for a movie of the same name. Is it possible to get those separated.
Edited by Lord-Jaricopen Crowner in need of more votes
The TRS thread for Instant Awesome Just Add Dragons has a crowner in which none of the options are in the 2:1 ratio. Right now, the thread is clocked; if there's still insufficient concensus by the 10th, the thread will be closed.
Please do not respond to this query. If you wish to talk about it, follow the link to the thread provided.
Edited by BerrentaopenEditing Issues
Yep, that title again.
Candy Cake 93 has consistent issues with indentation, context, and more. I've been sending notifiers, but it's done no good; they keep making mistakes.
- Here they added natter. They also added bad indentation here. On that same article, they turned an example into a Wall of Text.
- ZCE here, and more if you scroll down.
- Added some complaining here, or at least injected negativity into an example.
open"The Pete Best" Trivia page -- Real Life folder and music entry
While looking at the Trivia entry The Pete Best, I noticed a couple things that look problematic. Specifically:
-the Real Life folder contains not just people, but inanimate objects such as record labels, geographical places, theme parks, locomotives, and letters of the English alphabet. Not only is it hard to see justification for the entries, am thinking this doesn't even apply to non-sentient beings.
-in the Music page for this entry, there's a folder that says "Trope Namer." Rightly, it includes Pete Best himself, but it also contains an entry for Stuart Sutcliff, who was also an early member of The Beatles, but obviously isn't Pete Best himself. Am thinking this should be moved elsewhere (to the "B" folder).
Would appreciate feedback before acting on these two issues. Thanks!
openEpic Fail ZCEs
A user known as Derv0s B 2 has made a few additions to the Epic Fail subpages for Western Animation, Live-Action Films, and Live-Action TV that seem to lack proper context.
From Western Animation:
- In Transformers: Prime, there's Miko and Raf trying to lie to Optimus in "Speed Metal", which couldn't really have aroused much more suspicion.
From Live Action Films:
- Deadpool (2016): Deadpool's attempt to fight Colossus results in him breaking both hands and a foot without Colossus moving a muscle.
Deadpool: Ow! Fuck!! Your poor wife! Colossus: You really should stop.
From Live Action TV:
- The Silence's assassin River Song not only rebels, but almost destroys the universe trying to prevent the designed victim's death. And that's not to mention that Stable Time Loop thing...
- In "Under the Lake", Clara's social-interaction cue cards don't work out the way she hoped.
If you weren't familiar with these works, would these submissions properly explain how the trope is used?
openInanimate objects on Character page? Film
Characters.MCU Others has a section with inanimate objects with the infinity stones,the infinity gauntlet, the darkhold and the Lightforce.
MCU: Captain America has the shield and MCU: Thor the hammers...
Is it kosher on this site?
openMore "So It Sucks" knee jerk
- They Copied It, So It Sucks!: The immediate reaction from the less-than-pleasant side of the fanbase was that Pokemon is merely copying The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. The irony of this entire statement is that the Pokemon fanbase has wanted an open-world, Breath of the Wild style game for quite some time.
This sounds more like a Hatedom or Vocal Minority given it admits this is what most fans wanted. A Win Back the Crowd entry was added, then removed per waiting period, arguing most of the fans were happy and did not think this. (Would Win The Crowd apply here?)
I've had two other ATT's arguing "So It Sucks" shouldn't apply to prerelease so I'll cut the entry unless I hear anything.
open BeanWiggin
You've surely seen this name around lately, given their comments on two ATT reports. This one used a troper report to complain about how YMMV.The Mandalorian was talking about the Gina Carano controversy and insisted the whole discussion page be nuked seemingly because of one comment that they claimed accused Carano of terrorism (it didn't — at worst it accused her of supporting terrorism), in the process derailing the original purpose of the ATT thread, and this comment where they accused people of "riding [Fauci's] dick" for just offhandedly saying they thought he was a good person (and that was more to clarify that cutting his Useful Notes page wasn't motivated by personal disdain or anything).
At the time I first checked them out, they had zero edits to their name. Today, somebody also DM'd me this edit they made recently, which changed an entry claiming the stereotype about gay men intentionally spreading AIDS isn't accurate to one that says that it's true. Their only other edit is also deleting something political (describing a certain show's equivalents of the mid-20th century fascist regimes) with no explanation besides "Not applicable to trope."
Usually when I find tropers with political agendas, they have some other content to their name besides this, but almost everything that this guy has done on this wiki ties into some sort of rhetoric. The fact their account seems so new also has me suspicious.
UPDATE: The edit to Fictional Counterpart was apparently approved ahead of time. My bad for not checking that further. The edit for Rainbow Lens has now been edited to be more neutral.
Edited by mightymewtron
I started to follow the Final Fantasy X-2 page because a certain notorious ban evader seems to have an unhealthy obsession with it. And I'm pretty certain new troper Safety Dance is paxbisonica/taylorswiftscat/johnnyfog again. They exhibit the same editing pattern of serial tweaking to replace one or two words with synonyms, and also edit similar pages (Final Fantasy, Babylon Five, assorted videogames)... Requesting an IP check. Will undo their edits after confirmation.